Ready to stop watching for good...spoilers

I don’t frequent a dozen Days Facebook pages; just three platforms and I see the opposite reaction: overwhelming comments about how great the show is. Ultimately, all that matters is the Nielsen rating and fan engagement. If people are talking (whether it’s good or bad) that’s still buzz. If they’re not talking, that’s when it’s bad. That’s when you have to worry. But remember, “any publicity is good publicity.”

Yeah…Peacock would give the show not one but two special programming events (promoted to the hilt)…if they had no faith in the show. Not buying that…

Couldn’t disagree more. They get paid well, get to work at an established TV show with loads of rich history, and get to just let loose and have fun in the Ron era. Do you really think Tamara Braun and Galen Gering were embarrassed or ashamed to GET PAID to play on a soundstage with Ava in her nightgown and Galen in the Duke Bear costume? Well, their Instagram stories say otherwise…

Actors often use the terms “play in the sandbox” and “we get to play…” because they have the best job in the world, no matter what they do or say. They don’t sit at a computer all day. They get to interact with people, kiss strangers, “go to bed” with strangers, and live this fantasy life for work.

It doesn’t matter how absurd you think it is. For these people, it’s usually FUN. No matter what the material is. No matter how over-the-top it is. No matter how much of a departure from Classic “Days” you think it is.

They.
Still.
Got.
Paid.

And didn’t have to open a single Word document or Excel spreadsheet.

So they’re good!

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We all know how in any job, anywhere, there is always the need and IMO, the right for folks to air their complaints.
This is why unions are formed, suggestion boxes are installed in some places of business, town hall meetings are scheduled, etc.

The difference in the entertainment industry is that yes, you may complain, but be prepared for the CONSEQUENCES. The situations with Peter Reckell (Bo) and Stephen Nichols (Steve) are prime examples. Another noteworthy case was when the late Chadwick Boseman complained about the stereotypical character he played on AMC. He was promptly replaced.

As much as I don’t like having to bite your tongue, as I stated in my post, sometimes an actor’s got to do what he’s got to do.

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Also, uh-oh- Carson Boatman (JohnnyDevil) may just have to watch his back, in real life that is. You mentioned in another post that he was a bit reluctant to play the devil role, thinking that it could usher evil spirits into his home.
Did I detect a hint of complaint about a role he is to play? Let’s see if he’ll be backburnered for his audacity to speak out about a character.

Actors have the right to complain, but you have to remember that each show may employ 150 or so people (cast and crew). Bosses don’t like complainers. Especially for operations that nickel and dime everything like soaps. They run lean and efficient…and there’s no place for someone to constantly leave their lane. Keep in mind the challenge of head writers: they have to juggle actors based on guarantees, sets based on limited availability and fan demands and their own writing talent. It’s not an easy job. What if an actor wants more airtime and analytics (despite limited but vocal fan reaction) suggests that viewers don’t actually watch their scenes and FF through them?
That’s also a bitter pill to take. Remember, all shows these days have access to more data than ever. They can see, in the Peacock app, when people start the show, when they stop it and (if it’s like YouTube) which specific segments the viewer watched.
So writers and producers already are working with actionable data.
And, unfortunately, data and the business of TV often conflicts with the artist’s craft.

I wouldn’t call it a complaint, though. He was very professional and just answered an interviewer’s question. The show won’t punish him for answering a question honestly and professionally.
You can watch the “Dishin’ Days” interview on YouTube. But he said, while choosing his words carefully, that he might have been concerned about inviting “Negative energy” (his exact words) into his home. But then he understood this would be a creative challenge and he welcomed that aspect of it. And he was concerned about filling Dee’s shoes, he said, while expressing so much respect toward her place on the show. He was respectful and truthful. Not unloading.

Everything you said is spot on. I think what is different in soaps is that actors have been playing their character for years, they know they’re nuances, their attitudes, likes and dislikes, etc. If I were an actor and the writer gave me my new script and I saw something on there that I knew my character would never in a million years do, I would be tempted to say something, like wtf? I often think that when these actors get their new scripts and see where the storylines are going and see some of the stupid crap these writers are writing, they must roll their eyes at the stupidity. But it is a job, and if they want to keep getting paid they better keep their mouth shut or get the wrath of someone like Ron who will just write them out for months on end to get even.

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There is definitely what I call, “Kiss-up Culture” that is pervasive in all segments of society. We see the ramifications of this as we witness folks who know better, but have lost their minds in pursuit of going along to get along.

This bothers me to no end in areas other than that of the soap world. I worry about the children who are absorbing adult behavior that stands for nothing principled.

In the final analysis, who am I to judge? I am retired, so I’m can be just as old and ornery as can be, without regard to worrying about losing a job. So, I get that those who are dependent on getting paid, need to tread carefully.
Again, sad to admit- do what you got to do.

Glad to hear that for his sake as an actor, you feel that the issue was discussed diplomatically.
Every artist has to navigate the business angle of his craft carefully. No stepping on the toes of head writers or producers allowed!

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But is it “kiss up culture” or just doing your job? I do understand what you’re saying. It’s important to stand up for oneself if wrongs are committed. But I think that has more to do with sexual harassment, bullying, etc., in the workplace. Certainly, you want your team to feel a certain investment in the brand and that their opinion matters. But also, at the end of the day, the writer has to do what they feel is best. Otherwise, we may not get steamy affairs and twists that and turns that paint a character as anything other than angelic. Because some actors may believe the character can (or should) do no wrong. But, uncomfortable though it is to say, that’s not their call. Otherwise, it presents a slippery slope of offering constant input, which reduces company efficiency.

Unless you’re Eric Braeden, or Erika Slezak, ha…or Anthony Geary… they’ve all spoken out. And look, I get it. It’s tough. These veterans especially may have worked for the company for decades and feel ownership of their characters. But at the end of the day, they don’t own the character and can’t even portray that character in a YouTube video after leaving the company. They have no right, despite portraying that character for decades.

Yes, unfortunately actors have to play the game and do their job as it is prescribed. It’s a delicate balance in adhering to the soap world management hierachy for actors who can’t help but be outspoken.

Maybe I’m wrong, but it seems to me that Stayla have paid their dues by not ruffling any feathers as they had in the past. Now, they’ve gotten their adventure story, silly as it is. They also had their real names used in the story which suggests that maybe they had some input? I’m curious if they have repented enough to the writers that going forward, we’ll see more of them. To be determined…

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I ff through any scenes with Gwen, but that whole Sara mask thing was too much especially when she went to Maggie. I was fuming. All her crap about secrets, and lies and she impersonates this woman’s daughter to keep a man she’s been lying to for weeks about Sara. When this bs comes to an end, it better be epic. All bangs and no whimpers.

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As I’ve said many times already, I haven’t liked Gwen from day one when she arrived. I was hoping she was only there for a short stint to give us more background on Jake. But here she is, still on, and taking center stage. I can’t stand her, I have no sympathy or empathy for her. She’s a loser who tries to play the victim card to gain sympathy while doing all sorts of nasty things. She really better pay for what she’s done now or I’m really going to be furious. Between her and Ava they better go down for all of this.

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It was Gwen in the mask talking to Zander? I thought it was Ava helping out Gwen. :woozy_face:

I am a big critic here…honestly, XARAH was not even good. With absent of Sarah, the ship has sailed. And I really don’t know what Days is doing to EJAMI. Most are not watching it because there is no James Scott! The ratings are in 1.2 ratings now.

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It’s GOT to be something more than “audience” that keeps this show breathing! Don’t know what it is but the audience has only gotten thinner & thinner and was VERY low when it got renewed for 2 years! That was a shock but good for them & the few still tuning in!

Some have said it’s the highest rated NBC show and, IMO, if that’s the case NBC must be extremely weak! Doesn’t speak well for the network at all! May be knowing the right people in the business because I think anything would be more entertaining than today’s DAYS in that time slot! Daytime is going down anyway, but DOOL has not done anything about saving it! I quit several years ago but read nothing positive about it now except for isolated individual comments! The overall comments are sadly dismal and nothing seems to change! Seems they’re simply buying time as long as they can hang on! The writers simply don’t seem to care about the viewers’ wishes and that started years ago! Again - look at the ratings - it’s glaring they don’t care!

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I find your comparison of Xander and Sarah to the supercouples of the 80’s borderline sacreligious. They don’t hold a candle to those couples. I agree the show needs the injection of fun and humor it had in the mid-80’s (Eugene and Calliope!!!), but Sarah was infantile and whiny and Xander is just a smarmy baby-switcher. Irredeemable in my book.

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There is absolutely no way that this is the highest rated NBC show. Compared to what??? A 1.2 rating sure isn’t very good.

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