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Phyllis Spitting on Dru

Quote lovn billy: She did but it wasn't on purpose it was during a scene they were doing. MS apologized to VR but she acted like she didn't accept it and since that happened they had friction between the both. MS didn't do it on purpose!

I read that VR had to complain to TPTB before she got an apology so a forced apology does not soothe too many ruffled feathers. I also read that three members of the cast have said they don't want VR back & that MS said she did not want to work with her again. (I have heard that the other two are the actress who plays Lily and the actor who plays Jack). Bear in mind this is hearsay but the details of the spitting incident came from an online interview with VR. She was very mad b/c the spitting was adlibbed and she was not warned in advanced. It was she who said Michelle added it b/c she thought it would be funny so I assume that was Michelle's explanation to her. Someone here said it was an accident. Do you remember who said it was?

I am confused, is this something that happened long ago???

Quote iwannabephylis: It looked like to me that must of the spit went on DRu's shirt. Also if I ever wanted back on the show I certainly wouldn't of said it was on purpopse----even if I thought that. I tend to think it was written like that because Red is drinking from the mug continulosly. The show is taped so if Victoria was upset she had every opportunity to say so & retape. I don't think the actresses are allowed to make spontanous moves like that w/out consulting the staff first. If they do allow such ab libbing they must of thought it looked believable, or worth it to be aired. And I don't think if you want to be reconsidered for a show again it's a good thing to start, or add to trouble. I've heard she has not been kind about the actors who play Jack & Lily. Even if you truely, truely feel wronged by a person this is not helpping her return to the show. Then again maybe all the hoop;a creates what Y & R wants...attention. Like Victor & N icci's neogations & leaving the show. Didn't happen.

actually, they "ad-lib" all the time. typically not with words unless its a joke or small comment here and there. But the certainly do with attitude and behavior.

I read it somewhere but I just checked and it was MS that said it was an accident…that she didn't mean to do it…But then I read that it was something she added on her own. VR said if it was in the scene then should would have understood…and would have been prepared but MS did this add on…on her own…But that was so long ago and I didn't even think about it until this thread was posted.I also read awhile ago that some do not get along with MS…but for me all that is hear say and I just don't believe in everything I read!

I don't know why Victoria ever thinks she will get back on YnR. She has done nothing but bad mouth the actors and TPTB since she left. she brings it up in every interview and sure isn't making any points with any of them. I think she has burnt her bridges with this show and broke her contract too many times for her to come back. No, she doesn't get along with anyone except she did say she an Sharon Case were friends and also said she did not associate with co workers outside of work.

Quote donbru: I don't know why Victoria ever thinks she will get back on YnR. She has done nothing but bad mouth the actors and TPTB since she left. she brings it up in every interview and sure isn't making any points with any of them. I think she has burnt her bridges with this show and broke her contract too many times for her to come back. No, she doesn't get along with anyone except she did say she an Sharon Case were friends and also said she did not associate with co workers outside of work.

OMG! Welcome back donbru! Its been along time!

VR may be fiesty, but she's not an outright liar. She said that was not a part of the script and that Phyllis improvised and added that little tidbit herself because she thought it would add to the scene.

VR was upset, rightfully so, and she demanded an apology, which wasn't given until she took it to TPTB.

I find it interesting that VR is criticized for standing up for herself in real life, yet a vicious character on a tv show (Phyllis) gets all kinds of kudos for "supposedly" standing up for herself, however illegal the crime.

I see it this way no one really knows what happened if ms did it without telling her she was wrong but if it was an accident then things happen.

Quote sj77: VR may be fiesty, but she's not an outright liar. She said that was not a part of the script and that Phyllis improvised and added that little tidbit herself because she thought it would add to the scene.

VR was upset, rightfully so, and she demanded an apology, which wasn't given until she took it to TPTB.

I find it interesting that VR is criticized for standing up for herself in real life, yet a vicious character on a tv show (Phyllis) gets all kinds of kudos for "supposedly" standing up for herself, however illegal the crime.

I think it's surprising too that some think it's VR's fault for being insulted from someone's nasty spit put on her. I don't think that was scripted and frankly, I think it's a form of disrespect to have someone spit on another person, acting or not. Victoria had every right to stand up and demand an apology because the act was unacceptable. I doubt that she is hard up on wanting to come back to Y&R–the writing hasn't changed for the better and she would be frustrated again with the drama. She has had interviews spilling the beans about what happened behind the scenes and some folks got a bit p!ssy about that…oh well!

I am not sure why this is coming up now, other than to perhaps bash Michelle Stafford, but it seems that this was a very long time ago and alot of water has passed under the bridge for this to have much relevance to date. Truth is, it my impression that Victoria Rowal wanted back on this show very badly when MAB became the head writer. She went on an all out campaign to bring attention to herself to gin up support from the fans thinking it would sway opinion with the powers that be for the show. I understand that there is alot of negative feelings floating around out there where she is concerned by some of the actors and that she had burned alot of her bridges when she left that show. She is a sort of "Diva" type and I don't think that it proved to be a positive for her. Every article I ever read on the subject said that it was just a part of the rehersal and that it was not a milicious or unkind thing that was done to hurt anyone. We all know that Michelle Stafford is a very profressional and awarded actress and that she has a very comical side to her personality. She does it well. But to a person who is wearing a "chip" on their shoulder it could have been overblown. That is just my impression of the thing but I am wondering how that is releveant to the show at this late date.

Quote sj77: VR may be fiesty, but she's not an outright liar. She said that was not a part of the script and that Phyllis improvised and added that little tidbit herself because she thought it would add to the scene.

VR was upset, rightfully so, and she demanded an apology, which wasn't given until she took it to TPTB.

I find it interesting that VR is criticized for standing up for herself in real life, yet a vicious character on a tv show (Phyllis) gets all kinds of kudos for "supposedly" standing up for herself, however illegal the crime.

Phyllis is fictional.
I don't think VR was "standing up for herself", I think she was making noise as she is prone to do.
No, an actor should not ad-lib in that way without checking with the spitee first! But VR carried it way too far and would talk about it to anyone at the drop of a hat! She is known to be a pot stirrer and that is one of the reasons she has not had much work since that medical show she was on.

Quote OspreyGirl:
Quote sj77: VR may be fiesty, but she's not an outright liar. She said that was not a part of the script and that Phyllis improvised and added that little tidbit herself because she thought it would add to the scene.

VR was upset, rightfully so, and she demanded an apology, which wasn't given until she took it to TPTB.

I find it interesting that VR is criticized for standing up for herself in real life, yet a vicious character on a tv show (Phyllis) gets all kinds of kudos for "supposedly" standing up for herself, however illegal the crime.

I think it's surprising too that some think it's VR's fault for being insulted from someone's nasty spit put on her. I don't think that was scripted and frankly, I think it's a form of disrespect to have someone spit on another person, acting or not. Victoria had every right to stand up and demand an apology because the act was unacceptable. I doubt that she is hard up on wanting to come back to Y&R–the writing hasn't changed for the better and she would be frustrated again with the drama. She has had interviews spilling the beans about what happened behind the scenes and some folks got a bit p!ssy about that…oh well!

Tell it Sj & OG
I remember it like it was yesterday And Victoria Rowell said just that it wasn't in the dam script don't no why thats' so hard for some to swallow unless U just don;t like VR, I think she handle it just fine, because had it been me I know I could never grace the studios again after spitting right back on her but since VR did not go that route I feel like folk are pretty much over it just as VR has stated in many of interviews on several sites that are read by few and not by many apparently because they still asking.

Quote lightandday:
Quote OspreyGirl:
Quote sj77: VR may be fiesty, but she's not an outright liar. She said that was not a part of the script and that Phyllis improvised and added that little tidbit herself because she thought it would add to the scene.

VR was upset, rightfully so, and she demanded an apology, which wasn't given until she took it to TPTB.

I find it interesting that VR is criticized for standing up for herself in real life, yet a vicious character on a tv show (Phyllis) gets all kinds of kudos for "supposedly" standing up for herself, however illegal the crime.

I think it's surprising too that some think it's VR's fault for being insulted from someone's nasty spit put on her. I don't think that was scripted and frankly, I think it's a form of disrespect to have someone spit on another person, acting or not. Victoria had every right to stand up and demand an apology because the act was unacceptable. I doubt that she is hard up on wanting to come back to Y&R–the writing hasn't changed for the better and she would be frustrated again with the drama. She has had interviews spilling the beans about what happened behind the scenes and some folks got a bit p!ssy about that…oh well!

Tell it Sj & OG
I remember it like it was yesterday And Victoria Rowell said just that it wasn't in the dam script don't no why thats' so hard for some to swallow unless U just don;t like VR, I think she handle it just fine, because had it been me I know I could never grace the studios again after spitting right back on her but since VR did not go that route I feel like folk are pretty much over it just as VR has stated in many of interviews on several sites that are read by few and not by many apparently because they still asking.

Thank you! VR is too happy to not get sucked back into that fraternity nonsense that happened behind the scenes at Y&R. She had every right to speak up, and no one was bashing Michelle Stafford. What Michelle did was vile, plain and simple, and there shouldn't be any sugarcoating the fact of what she did. Mistake or not, it was disrespectful, and for VR to have to ask for an apology is beyond comprehension. I don't care if this happened 3 minutes or 3 years ago, wrong is wrong.

Well I am not sure about all this. I have read and read and read and all the stories say that it was a scene they were doing and MS added the spitting in Dru's face without letting anyone know. I for one would have been furious! You just don't do that. VR had every right to be upset…Would any of you like to be spit in the face? That for me is the worse insult next to slapping someone in the face. She did apologize and I think it was a forced apology…so someone said…and if that is right for me I'd rather you keep your apology if you have to be forced to say you're sorry…That has to come from your heart and as I see it it didn't…

I won't be discussing this anymore because I have to agree that this is a Baiting thread for Phylis…I had to say my two cents and that is what I have done today so now I'm moving on.

Exactly no one knows what happens behind the scenes and the media will always give it a good spin.

HI Longhornfan
Hook em Horns. They got a job cut out for them Thursday night but I have faith and they will win the big one.
Its nice to be back but I just dont get enough free time to post.

the clip clearly shows MS did not spit on VR… she spit her drink out… This is part of why VR is not welcome back. She totally overstated what happened.

Victoria ran her mouth about a lot of things and had she kept her mouth shut she just might have gotten back on the show. But no, she ruined those chances and has no one but herself to blame

Quote donbru: I don't know why Victoria ever thinks she will get back on YnR. She has done nothing but bad mouth the actors and TPTB since she left. she brings it up in every interview and sure isn't making any points with any of them. I think she has burnt her bridges with this show and broke her contract too many times for her to come back. No, she doesn't get along with anyone except she did say she an Sharon Case were friends and also said she did not associate with co workers outside of work.

If that were true then Hunter Tylo(Taylor) should have never been able to get back on B&B considering how many times she has bad mouth TPTB.

It happened a long time ago.

VR's a diva who got her own butt blackballed from the industry. Good enough for her.