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    Lily and Cane Fans (No Bash)

    Started by Candace at 2009/01/13 12:55PM
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    #28761   2013/08/21 04:38AM
    Re: New! Non-Bash Thread for Lily and Cane Fans!
    Rfan
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    Morning love and support for the best couple in Daytime the one and only Mr and Mrs Cane Ashby.

    #28762   2013/08/21 01:21PM
    Re: New! Non-Bash Thread for Lily and Cane Fans!
    MsSuperSuds
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    Luv you much, Ashby family, but this crap is too much to follow a second time around the bend. Hope everything is OK. Will catch you next time.

    Good Lord! JFP is about as creative as a blade of grass standing in the noonday sun. Round & round & round we go, where we stop--nobody knows. Same old wash, rinse and repeat plot points for LANE again & again & again except this time Cane is the foil instead of Lily. If you watch these episodes, Check your brains at the door b/c all the participants (including the oh-so-smart-and-efficient administrative assistant) are being written as dumb as door knobs.

    #28763   2013/08/21 07:24PM
    Re: New! Non-Bash Thread for Lily and Cane Fans!
    shalaydra75
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    Quote MsSuperSuds:
    Quote shalaydra75: Suds, I have stated that the decline of soaps began with the establishment of message boards and writers' bowing down to critics. The people on the boards do not represent the majority of viewers, particularly women viewers. I have been watching soaps since the late 1980s. I remember when soaps were about more than cheating and violence. They were about relationships and women seeking and obtaining power. Heck, Olivia was a doctor, and Ashley and Brook were Chemists. Talk Shows of the 1980s and 1990s never over took soaps, because soaps did it all.

    TPTB hide behind the myth that soaps are declining because more women are working while in reality, soaps are no longer geared toward women. Any business person should look at the ratings and see that board posters and critics know less than diddle squat about soaps. Yes, they pile on Lane, but every time the writers attack them, the ratings go down. They said that the Winters were worthless, but when they were relegated to Wednesday, Y&R lost its dominance because it ratings slid significantly while those B&B and other CBS shows increased. Posters and critics said that Phyllis, Adam and the Newmans elevated ratings. Focusing on them only lowered ratings, and Phyllis' encore had no impact on ratings.

    Opps-Sorry for the long rant.


    Soaps are declining b/c the writing is too unimaginative and they dwell on sexual hookups as storylines w/o very much of anything else to offer. All the family drama has dropped by the wayside unless it involves TPTB's faves, newbies, cheating, divorces, or backstabbing someone to take what they have. Business stories are the same way. From what I can see, JFP's vision of Y&R fits right in w/ this new idea of soap failures. I know that JG did not agree w/ Dylan McAvoy becoming the sole focus of Y&R. SB is not Y&R and I am sad to say that few viewers care about this newby. Anyway, we shall see what jumps off w/ both JFP & Y&R.

    ITA with the post, but I especially agree with bold statements. I agree with you and JG about Dylan. I said the same thing about GenV and as much as loved the actress/actor who played Sarge and Harmony, I believe the focus should be on the veterans characters. I do not care how great the actors were on another soap. When fans watch a soap that expect to see characters related to that soap.

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    #28764   2013/08/21 07:55PM
    Re: New! Non-Bash Thread for Lily and Cane Fans!
    shalaydra75
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    There is a thread "characters that you can do without"-that might not be exact. Since MAB got her job through nepotism, she was susceptible to such threads. Since Lane did not capture my interest to until the pregnancy s/l, I learned their history on youtube. The poster who was uploading the videos, advised viewers to visit the CBS boards because the posters were attacking Lane. I honestly did not believe their posts would have an impact, but now I think it did. MAB and later TPTB treat Lane and the Winters as though they are disposal. When you have threads calling for characters removal and TPTB respond, it causes fans of those ousted or disrespected character to become frustrated, and they then leave.

    #28765   2013/08/21 09:12PM
    Re: New! Non-Bash Thread for Lily and Cane Fans!
    MsSuperSuds
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    Quote shalaydra75: There is a thread "characters that you can do without"-that might not be exact. Since MAB got her job through nepotism, she was susceptible to such threads. Since Lane did not capture my interest to until the pregnancy s/l, I learned their history on youtube. The poster who was uploading the videos, advised viewers to visit the CBS boards because the posters were attacking Lane. I honestly did not believe their posts would have an impact, but now I think it did. MAB and later TPTB treat Lane and the Winters as though they are disposal. When you have threads calling for characters removal and TPTB respond, it causes fans of those ousted or disrespected character to become frustrated, and they then leave.


    You are absolutely right. MAB and her wingmen, Hogan Sheffer & Scott Hamner, were very slow learners. Everytime MAB did one of those destructive rewrites to either Cane or Lily or both, the viewership dropped drastically. Some loyal LANERS could not accept Chloegate b/c it was totally unnecessary that Cane marry this little munchkin stalker just b/c she got pregnant thru booty calls. In swoops BA to take advantage of the LANE split by wooing Lily & conspiring w/ the stalker to keep LANE apart. Even though MAB had trampled LANE, Chilly still could get a successful toehold w/ the audience. Then MAB tried to whitewash the little tramp & her manho by turning Cane into an imposter, liar & con-man so that he would look worse to viewers than either of them or both put together. MAB constantly & consistently fed this garbage to the audience; it was so badly written (convoluted) that only those who wanted to believe it bought it hook, line, & sinker. Thus the Cane hate thrives & he has done so much less than all of the other males in GC. Soap magazines & bloggers poked fun at this PC3 rewrite or retcon as we called it then. Another exodus of LANE fans & they did not return.

    MAB tried to kill Lily off the show by giving her stage 4 ovarian cancer w/ a radical hysterectomy & chemotherapy as the cure. If that was not enough, then we get parents for Cane who happen to be a mob family from Australia. Another mess in which MAB actually murders Cane just so she could put Lily into a contrived relationship w/ her ex-hubby from a teen marriage. That went over horribly w/ the audience so she had to cut that short and bring Cane back to the GC canvas. In the meantime, another great migration from Y&R by LANE fans. DG says one of the execs mentioned to him that Y&R lost over 900,000 viewers in the 3 months he was murdered & off screen. So in those five years since 2008, Y&R has dropped from a consistent 5-6 million plus viewers to 4.5 million on a good week. Ratings went from a consistent 4.0 plus to what you see now. MAB ran the viewers away and JFP seems to have a vision for Y&R that will keep turning off viewers & running them away. MAB took everything from Lily, Cane, Neil and sidelined them, isolated them, and often backburneredd them. She could not write for them so they disappeared from view and finally returned for Winters Wednesdays; she wanted to get back to that "old black storyline" as she put it. If not for LANERS support, I am certain DG, CK, KSJ, BJ would be gone from Y&R by now. I keep hoping that things will get better for LANE and this time I hope it does. Keep the Faith! Keep Hope Alive!

    #28766   2013/08/22 05:18AM
    Re: New! Non-Bash Thread for Lily and Cane Fans!
    Rfan
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    Love and support and too the top for the best Mr and Mrs Cane and Lily Ashby. Lane all the way YR it couple.

    #28767   2013/08/22 12:56PM
    Re: New! Non-Bash Thread for Lily and Cane Fans!
    MsSuperSuds
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    Never regret yesterday. Life is in you today, and you make your tomorrow. — L. Ron Hubbard


    Happy Thursday, Mr. & Mrs. Ashby! I am so glad that true love abides on this show & I am equally happy that you exemplify that kind of love. You've got lots of life yet untapped left in you as a married couple! Looking forward to seeing more of you resolving this current set of plot points. Have a great day! Will holler at you again next time.

    #28768   2013/08/22 05:31PM
    Re: New! Non-Bash Thread for Lily and Cane Fans!
    shorty725
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    Quote MsSuperSuds:
    Quote shalaydra75: There is a thread "characters that you can do without"-that might not be exact. Since MAB got her job through nepotism, she was susceptible to such threads. Since Lane did not capture my interest to until the pregnancy s/l, I learned their history on youtube. The poster who was uploading the videos, advised viewers to visit the CBS boards because the posters were attacking Lane. I honestly did not believe their posts would have an impact, but now I think it did. MAB and later TPTB treat Lane and the Winters as though they are disposal. When you have threads calling for characters removal and TPTB respond, it causes fans of those ousted or disrespected character to become frustrated, and they then leave.


    You are absolutely right. MAB and her wingmen, Hogan Sheffer & Scott Hamner, were very slow learners. Everytime MAB did one of those destructive rewrites to either Cane or Lily or both, the viewership dropped drastically. Some loyal LANERS could not accept Chloegate b/c it was totally unnecessary that Cane marry this little munchkin stalker just b/c she got pregnant thru booty calls. In swoops BA to take advantage of the LANE split by wooing Lily & conspiring w/ the stalker to keep LANE apart. Even though MAB had trampled LANE, Chilly still could get a successful toehold w/ the audience. Then MAB tried to whitewash the little tramp & her manho by turning Cane into an imposter, liar & con-man so that he would look worse to viewers than either of them or both put together. MAB constantly & consistently fed this garbage to the audience; it was so badly written (convoluted) that only those who wanted to believe it bought it hook, line, & sinker. Thus the Cane hate thrives & he has done so much less than all of the other males in GC. Soap magazines & bloggers poked fun at this PC3 rewrite or retcon as we called it then. Another exodus of LANE fans & they did not return.

    MAB tried to kill Lily off the show by giving her stage 4 ovarian cancer w/ a radical hysterectomy & chemotherapy as the cure. If that was not enough, then we get parents for Cane who happen to be a mob family from Australia. Another mess in which MAB actually murders Cane just so she could put Lily into a contrived relationship w/ her ex-hubby from a teen marriage. That went over horribly w/ the audience so she had to cut that short and bring Cane back to the GC canvas. In the meantime, another great migration from Y&R by LANE fans. DG says one of the execs mentioned to him that Y&R lost over 900,000 viewers in the 3 months he was murdered & off screen. So in those five years since 2008, Y&R has dropped from a consistent 5-6 million plus viewers to 4.5 million on a good week. Ratings went from a consistent 4.0 plus to what you see now. MAB ran the viewers away and JFP seems to have a vision for Y&R that will keep turning off viewers & running them away. MAB took everything from Lily, Cane, Neil and sidelined them, isolated them, and often backburneredd them. She could not write for them so they disappeared from view and finally returned for Winters Wednesdays; she wanted to get back to that "old black storyline" as she put it. If not for LANERS support, I am certain DG, CK, KSJ, BJ would be gone from Y&R by now. I keep hoping that things will get better for LANE and this time I hope it does. Keep the Faith! Keep Hope Alive!


    Suds, I've been off the board for awhile due to work but I just love your post. That heifer (JFP) can't write her name on her check not to mention write for a soap. Does she think that she is going to turn Y&R into her version of GH 2.0 when she was the EP? Don't get me wrong, I loved SB as Jason Morgan on GH but I'm not feeling him as Dylan on Y&R. We have the same s/l for him that was used on Cane and babygate and now we have Hilary intruding in Lane's marriage like you know who did a few weeks ago. The same s/l just different characters (no imagination at all) or should I say same (s***) crap, different day.

    I see not much has changed as far as Lane or this soap is concerned. What does Mason have to do with Hilary and/or Rose? Hilary blames Neil for her mother's death because of a business card that she found in a hotel room where her mother died so she decides to destroy Neil's family instead of finding out what really happened, so much for being a smart business woman. There are no smart people at all living in GC. Everybody drinks "stuck on stupid, let's have meaningless sex water" in GC.

    Sorry, I'm through ranting.

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    #28769   2013/08/22 07:34PM
    Re: New! Non-Bash Thread for Lily and Cane Fans!
    shalaydra75
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    Quote MsSuperSuds:
    Quote shalaydra75: There is a thread "characters that you can do without"-that might not be exact. Since MAB got her job through nepotism, she was susceptible to such threads. Since Lane did not capture my interest to until the pregnancy s/l, I learned their history on youtube. The poster who was uploading the videos, advised viewers to visit the CBS boards because the posters were attacking Lane. I honestly did not believe their posts would have an impact, but now I think it did. MAB and later TPTB treat Lane and the Winters as though they are disposal. When you have threads calling for characters removal and TPTB respond, it causes fans of those ousted or disrespected character to become frustrated, and they then leave.


    You are absolutely right. MAB and her wingmen, Hogan Sheffer & Scott Hamner, were very slow learners. Everytime MAB did one of those destructive rewrites to either Cane or Lily or both, the viewership dropped drastically. Some loyal LANERS could not accept Chloegate b/c it was totally unnecessary that Cane marry this little munchkin stalker just b/c she got pregnant thru booty calls. In swoops BA to take advantage of the LANE split by wooing Lily & conspiring w/ the stalker to keep LANE apart. Even though MAB had trampled LANE, Chilly still could get a successful toehold w/ the audience. Then MAB tried to whitewash the little tramp & her manho by turning Cane into an imposter, liar & con-man so that he would look worse to viewers than either of them or both put together. MAB constantly & consistently fed this garbage to the audience; it was so badly written (convoluted) that only those who wanted to believe it bought it hook, line, & sinker. Thus the Cane hate thrives & he has done so much less than all of the other males in GC. Soap magazines & bloggers poked fun at this PC3 rewrite or retcon as we called it then. Another exodus of LANE fans & they did not return.

    MAB tried to kill Lily off the show by giving her stage 4 ovarian cancer w/ a radical hysterectomy & chemotherapy as the cure. If that was not enough, then we get parents for Cane who happen to be a mob family from Australia. Another mess in which MAB actually murders Cane just so she could put Lily into a contrived relationship w/ her ex-hubby from a teen marriage. That went over horribly w/ the audience so she had to cut that short and bring Cane back to the GC canvas. In the meantime, another great migration from Y&R by LANE fans. DG says one of the execs mentioned to him that Y&R lost over 900,000 viewers in the 3 months he was murdered & off screen. So in those five years since 2008, Y&R has dropped from a consistent 5-6 million plus viewers to 4.5 million on a good week. Ratings went from a consistent 4.0 plus to what you see now. MAB ran the viewers away and JFP seems to have a vision for Y&R that will keep turning off viewers & running them away. MAB took everything from Lily, Cane, Neil and sidelined them, isolated them, and often backburneredd them. She could not write for them so they disappeared from view and finally returned for Winters Wednesdays; she wanted to get back to that "old black storyline" as she put it. If not for LANERS support, I am certain DG, CK, KSJ, BJ would be gone from Y&R by now. I keep hoping that things will get better for LANE and this time I hope it does. Keep the Faith! Keep Hope Alive!


    ITA!!! I do not think I going to tolerate too much from the new writers. I am tired writers mantra of "I must break up Lane at any cause."

    #28770   2013/08/23 08:27AM
    Re: New! Non-Bash Thread for Lily and Cane Fans!
    Rfan
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    Showing some morning love for the best in Daytime Mr and Mrs Cane and Lily Ashby.

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