Quote Chicken Alfredo
Quote luvroflife: I put nothing past TPTB and their motives.
What should matter is what this character has represented to young women/mothers. The dull roar for her to be shown as a brainless, trashy woman who places a man above her kids is writing at its worst. And WE women should protest!!
Will always see CK as a mature young woman who fought the odds for her family. Writers can try to show differently but it will only appeal to a few who enjoy representations of women, especially AA women, shown as less.
Great post! Society has assumptions about human behavior backwards. It is so much easier to be a horrible, trashy, mean-spirited tramp than a kind-hearted thoughtful person. Self-conrol and consideration for other people are the keys to positive and acceptable behavior. Because actors and actresses have more fun portraying the destructive, mean-spirited, thoughtless characters does not mean that society must adore & revere that kind of behavior. That is why we, especially our youth, are in so much trouble nowadays. "Its just a soap" doesn't cut it anymore. Art imitates life and Life imitates art! Which comes first is anybody's guess.
Great post Suds. I work in the school system therefore I see life imitating art all of the time with the way that the kids dress trying to impersonate the people that they see on television. I shake my head at some of the things that I see. If watching a woman being degraded and treated like a sexual object without brains is what tptb want young girls to see then they are doing a good job however I refuse to watch.
Lily has always been a person of quiet strength with class, maturity, style and grace not the person that is being shown on television now who acting like a jealous, empty-headed whimical nothing because of some jerk that doesn't respect her as an intelligent woman or her marriage. That I will not be a party to.
ITA with your post!!! You have to remember that the posters who are pushing Tily support the degradation of women and do not care about the demise of this soap. There are 2 types of viewers who are pushing for Tily. Those who do not like Lily/Lane and those who want to liberate Cane so that he can take on a prominent role on Y & R. I think a few Tyler fans think that Lily will catapult him to the limelight. These fans do not realize that this s/l is about nothing but marginalizing CK who is not on contract and transforming Cane to a leading man which he cannot be as long as he with Lily.
There it is again. The generalization. Haven't you ever stopped to think that maybe, just maybe people love them, and thats it? Everything doesn't have an "agenda" or "underlying message". It is what it is. You talk about Tily as something unhealthy, when others on the outside can point out a few unhealthy things about Lane as well. Just saying.
If so many people love them, how do you explain JG’s inability to rebuild Y & R
’s ratings? Before MAB messed up Lane they brought the ratings even when they were in the flirting stage.
In the old days, I use to enjoy debating with fans who do not like Lane/Lily/Cane, but I have found that most of them do not believe in facts. Moreover, since I have been able to predict ratings slides with s/ls and a lack of character development, I do not see the point. After I deliver my message in this post, I am going to leave you alone.
The message of this post is there a demographic of women who do not enjoy watching women torn down; those women are going to leave in droves and those that have left will definitely not come back. I could care less about either Lauren or Michael; however, I refused to watch scenes degrading Lauren. When Lily goes, there will be no woman left to enjoy. Why do you think that Days
is struggling? There is no character to which a certain demographic women can relate. Again soaps are mandatory entertainment as TPTB think.