Quote Sylviastel: At this point, bm & mm couldn't help this show anymore. I tape & watch later. I fast forward the winters, Devon, & cane&lily because they're not entertaining.
Actually, Winters, Lane and Devon were around and had real s/ls when Y&R were doing well while BM and MM were "stars" of it when reached its lowest point. Your quote is the reason why I have constantly accused soap boards as well as soap critics of being responsible for ruining Y&R. Since MAB was woefully unqualified and only received her job through nepotism, she was incredibly sensitive to critics and boards. There were many anti-Winters, Devon and Lane threads; resultantly, MAB destroyed Cane's narrative and backed-burned Devon and the Winters. When the ratings got low she dragging out the Winters without much of a story. JG and JFP debased Lily's character to introduce Hilary and Tyler. Since tptb provided no real stories and background for the newbies connect to the Winters Lane, they are floundering. Where is Tyler? Why isn't Mariah chasing him since she broke up his relationship with Abby? The answer is Tily was about breaking up Lane so that Lily would be trapped at Jabot Fashion, the Winters' area of segregation, and Cane would be free to be with a white character and powerful. The actors/actresses who portray, Neil, Lily, Cane, Devon, Tyler and Hilary deserve better than this.
Although Victor is the only Newman that I like and dislike all of the Baldwin-Fishers, I do not start threads about them. (Please note that I am not saying that you start or participate in hate threads.) I will challenge posters in the ratings threads because it is clear, not opinion, that BM and MM along with the rest of the Newmans have been/are killing this soap.
I reiterate that although Victor is the only Newman that I like and dislike all of the Baldwin-Fishers, before tptb, started allowing a few characters to dominate and changing narratives along with facts of s/ls, I watched every day. I, as most real soap fans, did not fast forward. Starting with MAB, tptb attempted to excite certain fans all time while leaving real soap fans out in the cold..