Quote Please_listen: We can go back and forth on this, but the bottom line is, Adam and his dad are two of a kind. Victor doesn't deserve any better than what Adam has given him and Adam doesn't deserve any better than Victor has given him. They both know each other ruthlessness and that's what blocks any relationship they could have. Adam is no fool, he knows his daddy's true intentions and he knows why his mother raised him on the farm. I think Hope knew what Victor was like and she wanted to save her son the pain of dealing with his control freak father.
You're overly concern about Victor unborn child, why aren't you so concern about Colleen or Summer? Why aren't you so concern about Patty, Skye,Chelsea, Melanie, or the prostitute he hired to frame Jack? Because he help to kill Coleen, he's saved his own life. How convenient it works out for Vic every time.
I hope Jack and Adam succeed and put the ole war tool in the shed where he belong.
The back and forth is what MBs are made of, but if it's frustrating, then I'll back off.
As for Colleen, you should put that on who is really at fault, Jack, he is the one that used Colleen to get what Brad left her, and go after Vic. Jack is the one that brought Colleen into that arena, and she thought she was big enough to play in that league, but she didn't think a immature gesture would cost her anything. Colleen needed to get out of town because she decided to jump in that fight between Jack and Vic, at Jack's urging, not Vic. Vic even told her dont' let Jack send her out, but she wanted to go up against Vic and got caught up.
And Patty didn't hurt Summer because of Vic, it was because she saw Phyl and jack having sex, yes he brought her to town, to get back at Jack for using him while he was ill, Jack took advantage of Vic while he was sick, that was a retiliation, jack started that battle.
They have all used and got over on people, I simply asked what did Vic do this particular time that would warrant Adam going after him yet again, try to find out the truth?
No matter how you spin this, Victor is not innocent in any thing. He's gone after others and has done his share of ish too. If anyone is going after him or as you like to coin it "retaliate" then Victor has given them plenty of reasons. He isn't innocent and he doesn't need a reason to do anything he does, he just does it because he's VN. He acts like he is God and he can and will do as he pleases, and that includes calling shots that he has no business doing. You're defending a man that is a villain, and you're ignoring everything he has done by excusing it and trying to reason why he does it. There is no reason good enough for going to the lengths he's gone to for revenge or getting even. Victor pulls out all the stops and damned who gets in the middle. If he had not brought Patty into town, there would be no reason for her to see Phyl and Jack kissing, hence, no peanut butter mishaps. If he didn't bring Patty back, then Colleen wouldn't be killed by her. Jack did use Coleen and I thought he was an idiot for doing it, I hated what he did but let's call it straight, let's not play with words here because it ALL went down because Victor brought the woman to town, for HIS purpose to be done. He didn't figure on how sick Patty was, she was USED by him, a woman as fragile in body and mind. He didn't care how he used her and discard her like she was trash. I don't care how you defend Victor, I don't care what excuses and good reasons you think you can give for his behavior, there is NONE that will justify what he has done. Jack and Adam are wrong, they have done their ish too, but you fail to realize that they aren't doing anything that Victor hasn't done and won't do too. All three of them have their faults, there isn't ONE among them that can lift up his hand and say he's better. They ALL SOB's and I don't play like I don't see what they are all capable of.