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    Nick and Faith Scenes Were Adorable! Nick & Billy

    Started by alanadz at 2013/08/16 12:06PM
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    #31   2013/08/16 02:48PM
    Re: Nick and Faith Scenes Were Adorable! Nick & Billy
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    Quote alanadz: No one comes before his kids. He said and he lived it. I remember when he and Phyllis first got married, she moved out of her big beautiful penthouse and into that tiny tack house, so that Nick could see Noah EVERY DAY. It was a very smart move on her part.


    Another bait thread? How many do put up a day? Nick isn't father of the year and Phyllis wasn't mother of the year. They ALL have their faults and some good too, but don't try to paint it like their are so GREAT because they aren't.


    Glad I am not the only one that sees it.

    As to previous comments, it's got nothing to do with a "bad marriage". If that was the case, Nick should never have been with Phyllis because that was a train wreck from the start. And before you go blaming Sharon, sorry but it's on NICK. Sharon couldn't have been in his marriage to Phyllis, if he didn't want her there.

    Nick has always been about himself. That has never and will never change. Being a good father is even about Nick, because he needs to look like a better father then his own, and needs to feel superior to all.


    Nick is all wonderful and awesome now because he's Summer's father but I'm going to wait to see what he is next week. Nick is a tool, he was during his marriage to Sharon when he cheated on her and he was a tool during his marriage to Phyllis when he cheated on her too. I don't think any character on the show has a good marriage because if they are happy and blissful today, by next week the writers have them cheating and lying to each.



    Maybe you don't understand what the thread is about. It's about GOOD FATHERS. I didn't say anything about Nick being a good HUSBAND to Sharon or Phyllis.


    You were the one that brought marriage into it. Saying that Nick getting out of a "bad marriage" doesn't make him a bad father. But having affairs, jumping from woman to woman, playing those women against each other, does make him a bad father.

    No matter how you brush it, Sharon was in Phick's marriage because Nick allowed it and wanted it. Just like Phyllis was in Shick's because Nick wanted it. He's a selfish @$$ who thinks only of #1 first, and that will always be Nick. Painting him as anything but is pure and utter BS.


    Bravo, thank you for an awesome post that gets to the point.




    I will say it again (and JM said it too) Nick is a great father, and a lousy husband. People can walk and chew gum at the same time.


    Sorry, regardless of what JM thinks, this does not make Nick a good father. A good father puts his child first. He does not jump from woman to woman. He does not lie and cheat. He sets an example of how to do things right, not how to do everything wrong.

    Nick may not be the worse there is, but he is not the wonderful father you want to paint him as.

    #32   2013/08/16 02:48PM
    Re: Nick and Faith Scenes Were Adorable! Nick & Billy
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    Quote JRTA:
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    Quote alanadz:
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    Quote alanadz: No one comes before his kids. He said and he lived it. I remember when he and Phyllis first got married, she moved out of her big beautiful penthouse and into that tiny tack house, so that Nick could see Noah EVERY DAY. It was a very smart move on her part.


    Another bait thread? How many do put up a day? Nick isn't father of the year and Phyllis wasn't mother of the year. They ALL have their faults and some good too, but don't try to paint it like their are so GREAT because they aren't.


    Glad I am not the only one that sees it.

    As to previous comments, it's got nothing to do with a "bad marriage". If that was the case, Nick should never have been with Phyllis because that was a train wreck from the start. And before you go blaming Sharon, sorry but it's on NICK. Sharon couldn't have been in his marriage to Phyllis, if he didn't want her there.

    Nick has always been about himself. That has never and will never change. Being a good father is even about Nick, because he needs to look like a better father then his own, and needs to feel superior to all.



    Sharon sure was in the Phick marriage, every chance she got. Just like Sharon was in Chadam's marriage, and Sharon was in Brad and Victoria's marriage! Sharon would have been in the Niktor marriage IF Victor would have played along!


    So everything is Sharon fault huh? Pay back is a biotch and Phyllis sure got a taste of that. What is the Phick/Phyllis fans view on this topic again? Oh yeah, it wasn't Phyllis fault when Nick was cheating on Sharon with Phyllis so as a Sharon fan, I'll say the same, it wasn't Sharon fault that Nick used Phyllis as a therapist with benefits because he had unresolved feelings for Sharon, the love of his life. I guess you think the men that wanted to be with Sharon was all innocent and this is ALL on Sharon. If a man said this, I'd understand but when women have this view, it blows my mind.



    UPDATE FYI: Avery is now the love of Nick's life. I am not getting into that Shick/Phick nonsense. I will say this, ONE NIGHT of Phick ended 10 years of Shick and Shick has NEVER recovered, period the END. It's over.


    UPDATE FYI: I'd say that Nick changes "love's of his life" like a teenager changes hairstyles, but Nick only has ONE love of his life..... HIMSELF


    Exactly. Nick loves Nick.

    #33   2013/08/16 02:50PM
    Re: Nick and Faith Scenes Were Adorable! Nick & Billy
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    Quote alanadz:
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    Quote alanadz: No one comes before his kids. He said and he lived it. I remember when he and Phyllis first got married, she moved out of her big beautiful penthouse and into that tiny tack house, so that Nick could see Noah EVERY DAY. It was a very smart move on her part.


    Another bait thread? How many do put up a day? Nick isn't father of the year and Phyllis wasn't mother of the year. They ALL have their faults and some good too, but don't try to paint it like their are so GREAT because they aren't.


    Glad I am not the only one that sees it.

    As to previous comments, it's got nothing to do with a "bad marriage". If that was the case, Nick should never have been with Phyllis because that was a train wreck from the start. And before you go blaming Sharon, sorry but it's on NICK. Sharon couldn't have been in his marriage to Phyllis, if he didn't want her there.

    Nick has always been about himself. That has never and will never change. Being a good father is even about Nick, because he needs to look like a better father then his own, and needs to feel superior to all.


    Nick is all wonderful and awesome now because he's Summer's father but I'm going to wait to see what he is next week. Nick is a tool, he was during his marriage to Sharon when he cheated on her and he was a tool during his marriage to Phyllis when he cheated on her too. I don't think any character on the show has a good marriage because if they are happy and blissful today, by next week the writers have them cheating and lying to each.



    Maybe you don't understand what the thread is about. It's about GOOD FATHERS. I didn't say anything about Nick being a good HUSBAND to Sharon or Phyllis.


    I understand, and if you're telling me to stay on topic, then you should do the same. I wouldn't call Nick or Billy good fathers because the things they do, the decisions they make, "good fathers" don't do. Good fathers think about their kids, their homes, their marriages, and their responsibilities before they make decisions that will affect their children's lives. IF Nick was such a great dad, or good dad as you put it, he would have been responsible and do a proper DNA test in the first place for Summer. He wouldn't have waited 18 long years later to do one because his hand was forced. HE and HE alone has turned his child's life up side down and yes, you can blame it ALL on Sharon because some how that absolves Nick of all responsibilities but it doesn't. IF Nick was a good father, he would never have married his daughter aunt, but that's good now because at least he's not with Sharon right? How does a father marrying his child's aunt make him a good dad? If Billy boy was a good dad he wouldn't buy a baby on the black market for his spoiled brat wife. What will these children have to live with when they grow up? What consequences will their children face because of the decisions their "good father" made?


    If Nick was a good father, he would have dealt with his wife, ended his marriage before beginning a relationship with another woman. Instead he abandoned his family because of "his grief" and had an affair with another woman, resulting in a pregnancy, divorce, remarriage.... all while his nine year old was still dealing with it. Yeah, great dad there.

    ITA with everything else you say.


    ITA with EVERYTHING you said. I think the Nick love/good dad is a result of the DNA s/l being favorable.

    #34   2013/08/16 02:52PM
    Re: Nick and Faith Scenes Were Adorable! Nick & Billy
    YR2013
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    Quote alanadz:
    Quote YR2013:
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    Quote alanadz: No one comes before his kids. He said and he lived it. I remember when he and Phyllis first got married, she moved out of her big beautiful penthouse and into that tiny tack house, so that Nick could see Noah EVERY DAY. It was a very smart move on her part.


    Another bait thread? How many do put up a day? Nick isn't father of the year and Phyllis wasn't mother of the year. They ALL have their faults and some good too, but don't try to paint it like their are so GREAT because they aren't.


    Glad I am not the only one that sees it.

    As to previous comments, it's got nothing to do with a "bad marriage". If that was the case, Nick should never have been with Phyllis because that was a train wreck from the start. And before you go blaming Sharon, sorry but it's on NICK. Sharon couldn't have been in his marriage to Phyllis, if he didn't want her there.

    Nick has always been about himself. That has never and will never change. Being a good father is even about Nick, because he needs to look like a better father then his own, and needs to feel superior to all.


    Nick is all wonderful and awesome now because he's Summer's father but I'm going to wait to see what he is next week. Nick is a tool, he was during his marriage to Sharon when he cheated on her and he was a tool during his marriage to Phyllis when he cheated on her too. I don't think any character on the show has a good marriage because if they are happy and blissful today, by next week the writers have them cheating and lying to each.



    Maybe you don't understand what the thread is about. It's about GOOD FATHERS. I didn't say anything about Nick being a good HUSBAND to Sharon or Phyllis.


    You were the one that brought marriage into it. Saying that Nick getting out of a "bad marriage" doesn't make him a bad father. But having affairs, jumping from woman to woman, playing those women against each other, does make him a bad father.

    No matter how you brush it, Sharon was in Phick's marriage because Nick allowed it and wanted it. Just like Phyllis was in Shick's because Nick wanted it. He's a selfish @$$ who thinks only of #1 first, and that will always be Nick. Painting him as anything but is pure and utter BS.


    Bravo, thank you for an awesome post that gets to the point.




    I will say it again (and JM said it too) Nick is a great father, and a lousy husband. People can walk and chew gum at the same time.


    Sometimes I wonder IF JM knows Nick at all. LOL, you have more faith in Nick because I don't think he's capable of walking and chewing gum at the same time. He's a selfish person and that shows in every aspect of his life and trickles down to his children. The Summer paternity s/l is a great example of how Nick is a lousy father.

    #35   2013/08/16 03:00PM
    Re: Nick and Faith Scenes Were Adorable! Nick & Billy
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    Quote alanadz: No one comes before his kids. He said and he lived it. I remember when he and Phyllis first got married, she moved out of her big beautiful penthouse and into that tiny tack house, so that Nick could see Noah EVERY DAY. It was a very smart move on her part.


    Another bait thread? How many do put up a day? Nick isn't father of the year and Phyllis wasn't mother of the year. They ALL have their faults and some good too, but don't try to paint it like their are so GREAT because they aren't.


    Glad I am not the only one that sees it.

    As to previous comments, it's got nothing to do with a "bad marriage". If that was the case, Nick should never have been with Phyllis because that was a train wreck from the start. And before you go blaming Sharon, sorry but it's on NICK. Sharon couldn't have been in his marriage to Phyllis, if he didn't want her there.

    Nick has always been about himself. That has never and will never change. Being a good father is even about Nick, because he needs to look like a better father then his own, and needs to feel superior to all.


    Nick is all wonderful and awesome now because he's Summer's father but I'm going to wait to see what he is next week. Nick is a tool, he was during his marriage to Sharon when he cheated on her and he was a tool during his marriage to Phyllis when he cheated on her too. I don't think any character on the show has a good marriage because if they are happy and blissful today, by next week the writers have them cheating and lying to each.



    Maybe you don't understand what the thread is about. It's about GOOD FATHERS. I didn't say anything about Nick being a good HUSBAND to Sharon or Phyllis.


    You were the one that brought marriage into it. Saying that Nick getting out of a "bad marriage" doesn't make him a bad father. But having affairs, jumping from woman to woman, playing those women against each other, does make him a bad father.

    No matter how you brush it, Sharon was in Phick's marriage because Nick allowed it and wanted it. Just like Phyllis was in Shick's because Nick wanted it. He's a selfish @$$ who thinks only of #1 first, and that will always be Nick. Painting him as anything but is pure and utter BS.


    Bravo, thank you for an awesome post that gets to the point.




    I will say it again (and JM said it too) Nick is a great father, and a lousy husband. People can walk and chew gum at the same time.


    Sorry, regardless of what JM thinks, this does not make Nick a good father. A good father puts his child first. He does not jump from woman to woman. He does not lie and cheat. He sets an example of how to do things right, not how to do everything wrong.


    Ok, you are talking about being a husband and that is what this thread is about. I said and I repeat, Nick and Billy are good fathers. The fact that Billy has a gambling addiction does not make him a bad father. I loved Phick and I am a huge Phyllis fan BUT she was just as much at fault for the failure of that marriage as Nick was. And yes, I think Phyllis is a very good mother.

    Nick may not be the worse there is, but he is not the wonderful father you want to paint him as.

    #36   2013/08/16 03:08PM
    Re: Nick and Faith Scenes Were Adorable! Nick & Billy
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    Quote alanadz:
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    Quote alanadz: No one comes before his kids. He said and he lived it. I remember when he and Phyllis first got married, she moved out of her big beautiful penthouse and into that tiny tack house, so that Nick could see Noah EVERY DAY. It was a very smart move on her part.


    Another bait thread? How many do put up a day? Nick isn't father of the year and Phyllis wasn't mother of the year. They ALL have their faults and some good too, but don't try to paint it like their are so GREAT because they aren't.


    Glad I am not the only one that sees it.

    As to previous comments, it's got nothing to do with a "bad marriage". If that was the case, Nick should never have been with Phyllis because that was a train wreck from the start. And before you go blaming Sharon, sorry but it's on NICK. Sharon couldn't have been in his marriage to Phyllis, if he didn't want her there.

    Nick has always been about himself. That has never and will never change. Being a good father is even about Nick, because he needs to look like a better father then his own, and needs to feel superior to all.



    Sharon sure was in the Phick marriage, every chance she got. Just like Sharon was in Chadam's marriage, and Sharon was in Brad and Victoria's marriage! Sharon would have been in the Niktor marriage IF Victor would have played along!


    So everything is Sharon fault huh? Pay back is a biotch and Phyllis sure got a taste of that. What is the Phick/Phyllis fans view on this topic again? Oh yeah, it wasn't Phyllis fault when Nick was cheating on Sharon with Phyllis so as a Sharon fan, I'll say the same, it wasn't Sharon fault that Nick used Phyllis as a therapist with benefits because he had unresolved feelings for Sharon, the love of his life. I guess you think the men that wanted to be with Sharon was all innocent and this is ALL on Sharon. If a man said this, I'd understand but when women have this view, it blows my mind.


    UPDATE FYI (Sorry, couldn't resist)..... I believe what you describe is called a "double standard".


    This whole board is full of double standards, most Sharon fans blame Phyllis for everything and most Phyllis fans blame Sharon for everything, Very rarely does the blame actually go where it belongs which is on Nick who caused most of the problems for these women.

    #37   2013/08/16 03:19PM
    Re: Nick and Faith Scenes Were Adorable! Nick & Billy
    alanadz
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    Quote laurie6:
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    Quote alanadz: No one comes before his kids. He said and he lived it. I remember when he and Phyllis first got married, she moved out of her big beautiful penthouse and into that tiny tack house, so that Nick could see Noah EVERY DAY. It was a very smart move on her part.


    Another bait thread? How many do put up a day? Nick isn't father of the year and Phyllis wasn't mother of the year. They ALL have their faults and some good too, but don't try to paint it like their are so GREAT because they aren't.


    Glad I am not the only one that sees it.

    As to previous comments, it's got nothing to do with a "bad marriage". If that was the case, Nick should never have been with Phyllis because that was a train wreck from the start. And before you go blaming Sharon, sorry but it's on NICK. Sharon couldn't have been in his marriage to Phyllis, if he didn't want her there.

    Nick has always been about himself. That has never and will never change. Being a good father is even about Nick, because he needs to look like a better father then his own, and needs to feel superior to all.



    Sharon sure was in the Phick marriage, every chance she got. Just like Sharon was in Chadam's marriage, and Sharon was in Brad and Victoria's marriage! Sharon would have been in the Niktor marriage IF Victor would have played along!


    So everything is Sharon fault huh? Pay back is a biotch and Phyllis sure got a taste of that. What is the Phick/Phyllis fans view on this topic again? Oh yeah, it wasn't Phyllis fault when Nick was cheating on Sharon with Phyllis so as a Sharon fan, I'll say the same, it wasn't Sharon fault that Nick used Phyllis as a therapist with benefits because he had unresolved feelings for Sharon, the love of his life. I guess you think the men that wanted to be with Sharon was all innocent and this is ALL on Sharon. If a man said this, I'd understand but when women have this view, it blows my mind.


    UPDATE FYI (Sorry, couldn't resist)..... I believe what you describe is called a "double standard".


    This whole board is full of double standards, most Sharon fans blame Phyllis for everything and most Phyllis fans blame Sharon for everything, Very rarely does the blame actually go where it belongs which is on Nick who caused most of the problems for these women.


    Why are women always the poor helpless, hapless victims? Nick never raped anyone. Both Sharon and Phyllis chose him, both Sharon and Phyllis cheated WITH him and ON HIM.

    #38   2013/08/16 03:25PM
    Re: Nick and Faith Scenes Were Adorable! Nick & Billy
    laurie6
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    Quote alanadz: No one comes before his kids. He said and he lived it. I remember when he and Phyllis first got married, she moved out of her big beautiful penthouse and into that tiny tack house, so that Nick could see Noah EVERY DAY. It was a very smart move on her part.


    Another bait thread? How many do put up a day? Nick isn't father of the year and Phyllis wasn't mother of the year. They ALL have their faults and some good too, but don't try to paint it like their are so GREAT because they aren't.


    Glad I am not the only one that sees it.

    As to previous comments, it's got nothing to do with a "bad marriage". If that was the case, Nick should never have been with Phyllis because that was a train wreck from the start. And before you go blaming Sharon, sorry but it's on NICK. Sharon couldn't have been in his marriage to Phyllis, if he didn't want her there.

    Nick has always been about himself. That has never and will never change. Being a good father is even about Nick, because he needs to look like a better father then his own, and needs to feel superior to all.



    Sharon sure was in the Phick marriage, every chance she got. Just like Sharon was in Chadam's marriage, and Sharon was in Brad and Victoria's marriage! Sharon would have been in the Niktor marriage IF Victor would have played along!


    So everything is Sharon fault huh? Pay back is a biotch and Phyllis sure got a taste of that. What is the Phick/Phyllis fans view on this topic again? Oh yeah, it wasn't Phyllis fault when Nick was cheating on Sharon with Phyllis so as a Sharon fan, I'll say the same, it wasn't Sharon fault that Nick used Phyllis as a therapist with benefits because he had unresolved feelings for Sharon, the love of his life. I guess you think the men that wanted to be with Sharon was all innocent and this is ALL on Sharon. If a man said this, I'd understand but when women have this view, it blows my mind.


    UPDATE FYI (Sorry, couldn't resist)..... I believe what you describe is called a "double standard".


    This whole board is full of double standards, most Sharon fans blame Phyllis for everything and most Phyllis fans blame Sharon for everything, Very rarely does the blame actually go where it belongs which is on Nick who caused most of the problems for these women.


    Why are women always the poor helpless, hapless victims? Nick never raped anyone. Both Sharon and Phyllis chose him, both Sharon and Phyllis cheated WITH him and ON HIM.


    Why is Nick always a victim he played with both women and hurt them both badly, He also lied about Summer her whole life, Nick is far from an angel and I refuse to place all the blame on the women when Nick is a huge part of it.

    #39   2013/08/16 03:29PM
    Re: Nick and Faith Scenes Were Adorable! Nick & Billy
    Rilynne
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    Quote alanadz:
    Quote laurie6:
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    Quote alanadz: No one comes before his kids. He said and he lived it. I remember when he and Phyllis first got married, she moved out of her big beautiful penthouse and into that tiny tack house, so that Nick could see Noah EVERY DAY. It was a very smart move on her part.


    Another bait thread? How many do put up a day? Nick isn't father of the year and Phyllis wasn't mother of the year. They ALL have their faults and some good too, but don't try to paint it like their are so GREAT because they aren't.


    Glad I am not the only one that sees it.

    As to previous comments, it's got nothing to do with a "bad marriage". If that was the case, Nick should never have been with Phyllis because that was a train wreck from the start. And before you go blaming Sharon, sorry but it's on NICK. Sharon couldn't have been in his marriage to Phyllis, if he didn't want her there.

    Nick has always been about himself. That has never and will never change. Being a good father is even about Nick, because he needs to look like a better father then his own, and needs to feel superior to all.



    Sharon sure was in the Phick marriage, every chance she got. Just like Sharon was in Chadam's marriage, and Sharon was in Brad and Victoria's marriage! Sharon would have been in the Niktor marriage IF Victor would have played along!


    So everything is Sharon fault huh? Pay back is a biotch and Phyllis sure got a taste of that. What is the Phick/Phyllis fans view on this topic again? Oh yeah, it wasn't Phyllis fault when Nick was cheating on Sharon with Phyllis so as a Sharon fan, I'll say the same, it wasn't Sharon fault that Nick used Phyllis as a therapist with benefits because he had unresolved feelings for Sharon, the love of his life. I guess you think the men that wanted to be with Sharon was all innocent and this is ALL on Sharon. If a man said this, I'd understand but when women have this view, it blows my mind.


    UPDATE FYI (Sorry, couldn't resist)..... I believe what you describe is called a "double standard".


    This whole board is full of double standards, most Sharon fans blame Phyllis for everything and most Phyllis fans blame Sharon for everything, Very rarely does the blame actually go where it belongs which is on Nick who caused most of the problems for these women.


    Why are women always the poor helpless, hapless victims? Nick never raped anyone. Both Sharon and Phyllis chose him, both Sharon and Phyllis cheated WITH him and ON HIM.


    I agree, these women bear responsibility for their actions and so does Nick. He cheated on both women with both women. This board lights up with Sharon vs Phyllis and that is fun. I think Nick has always been and will always be drawn to his first love, Sharon. There is something he cannot let go of. Phyllis saw this and I'm afraid Avery will too. I think the only person who can truly end Shick is Adam.

    #40   2013/08/16 03:29PM
    Re: Nick and Faith Scenes Were Adorable! Nick & Billy
    alanadz
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    Quote alanadz: No one comes before his kids. He said and he lived it. I remember when he and Phyllis first got married, she moved out of her big beautiful penthouse and into that tiny tack house, so that Nick could see Noah EVERY DAY. It was a very smart move on her part.




    Well he has been playing the part for about 20 years, so yes I am sure he knows what his own characters. Seriously?
    Another bait thread? How many do put up a day? Nick isn't father of the year and Phyllis wasn't mother of the year. They ALL have their faults and some good too, but don't try to paint it like their are so GREAT because they aren't.


    Glad I am not the only one that sees it.

    As to previous comments, it's got nothing to do with a "bad marriage". If that was the case, Nick should never have been with Phyllis because that was a train wreck from the start. And before you go blaming Sharon, sorry but it's on NICK. Sharon couldn't have been in his marriage to Phyllis, if he didn't want her there.

    Nick has always been about himself. That has never and will never change. Being a good father is even about Nick, because he needs to look like a better father then his own, and needs to feel superior to all.


    Nick is all wonderful and awesome now because he's Summer's father but I'm going to wait to see what he is next week. Nick is a tool, he was during his marriage to Sharon when he cheated on her and he was a tool during his marriage to Phyllis when he cheated on her too. I don't think any character on the show has a good marriage because if they are happy and blissful today, by next week the writers have them cheating and lying to each.



    Maybe you don't understand what the thread is about. It's about GOOD FATHERS. I didn't say anything about Nick being a good HUSBAND to Sharon or Phyllis.


    You were the one that brought marriage into it. Saying that Nick getting out of a "bad marriage" doesn't make him a bad father. But having affairs, jumping from woman to woman, playing those women against each other, does make him a bad father.

    No matter how you brush it, Sharon was in Phick's marriage because Nick allowed it and wanted it. Just like Phyllis was in Shick's because Nick wanted it. He's a selfish @$$ who thinks only of #1 first, and that will always be Nick. Painting him as anything but is pure and utter BS.


    Bravo, thank you for an awesome post that gets to the point.




    I will say it again (and JM said it too) Nick is a great father, and a lousy husband. People can walk and chew gum at the same time.


    Sometimes I wonder IF JM knows Nick at all. LOL, you have more faith in Nick because I don't think he's capable of walking and chewing gum at the same time. He's a selfish person and that shows in every aspect of his life and trickles down to his children. The Summer paternity s/l is a great example of how Nick is a lousy father.

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