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    Off-Topic: Geoge Zimmerman was found not guilty!

    Started by Chuckyducky at 2013/07/13 08:06PM
    Latest post: 2013/07/23 04:03PM, Views: 12690, Replies: 267
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    #141   2013/07/16 02:02PM
    Re: Off-Topic: Geoge Zimmerman was found not guilty!
    hubbardfan
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    Quote vickidink: Michael Vick being Black played no part in him going to jail for animal abuse - being a vicious monster is why Michael Vick went to jail.


    There you go w/those stereotypical 'code words'...vicious monster! You people always manage to find a way to label us!

    #142   2013/07/16 03:18PM
    Re: Off-Topic: Geoge Zimmerman was found not guilty!
    Barbyboo
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    It seems president Obama gets blamed for everything now a days I think it's the republicans the no people that are holding recovery back..that being said calling people names and fighting is not going to solve anything. The news will squeeze this story. Then go on to next hot topic...gun control nah republicans don't want it. Immigration nah republications don't want it whats for supper champagne, filet mingon. Yea we want it and we got the bucks to pay for it..boo!

    #143   2013/07/16 03:56PM
    Re: Off-Topic: Geoge Zimmerman was found not guilty!
    vickidink
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    Quote hubbardfan:
    Quote vickidink: Michael Vick being Black played no part in him going to jail for animal abuse - being a vicious monster is why Michael Vick went to jail.


    There you go w/those stereotypical 'code words'...vicious monster! You people always manage to find a way to label us!


    "You people" what are you referring to me as "White" "Hispanic" what exactly? So I am labeling Blacks by calling Michael Vick a "vicious monster"? - Tell me then what do you call a person of any race who electrocutes, hangs and does other horrific things to dogs to kill them because they have outlived their usefulness to them? You are just looking for a way to perpetuate that "all" whites or people not of color are "labeling" Blacks. Surely, you don't condone what Michael Vick did!

    #144   2013/07/16 04:01PM
    Re: Off-Topic: Geoge Zimmerman was found not guilty!
    vickidink
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    Quote Barbyboo: It seems president Obama gets blamed for everything now a days I think it's the republicans the no people that are holding recovery back..that being said calling people names and fighting is not going to solve anything. The news will squeeze this story. Then go on to next hot topic...gun control nah republicans don't want it. Immigration nah republications don't want it whats for supper champagne, filet mingon. Yea we want it and we got the bucks to pay for it..boo!


    I voted Republican this time - and I don't have money for champagne, filet mignon - my daughter is on food stamps and Wic. I have to take out payday loans some times to make ends meet - not all Republicans are rich - some vote Republican because if something isn't done - there won't be any more people to pay the taxes that support the services that the poor receive. Being Republican has nothing to do with the Zimmerman case. Whoever the President is at any given time is blamed for everything.

    #145   2013/07/16 04:33PM
    Re: Off-Topic: Geoge Zimmerman was found not guilty!
    bukopandan
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    Quote vickidink:
    Quote hubbardfan:
    Quote vickidink: Michael Vick being Black played no part in him going to jail for animal abuse - being a vicious monster is why Michael Vick went to jail.


    There you go w/those stereotypical 'code words'...vicious monster! You people always manage to find a way to label us!


    "You people" what are you referring to me as "White" "Hispanic" what exactly? So I am labeling Blacks by calling Michael Vick a "vicious monster"? - Tell me then what do you call a person of any race who electrocutes, hangs and does other horrific things to dogs to kill them because they have outlived their usefulness to them? You are just looking for a way to perpetuate that "all" whites or people not of color are "labeling" Blacks. Surely, you don't condone what Michael Vick did!



    There are a number of assumptions being made about more than one race and a good amount of lumping together, and some of the comments seem to come from a place not just of pain and wishing to share and enlighten, but also of contributing to perpetuating the "other" and of deciding that everyone needs a ground-zero education about race relations (not all white people are segregationists and some of us are even married to someone of another color and have long been educated on and involved in improving race relations). There are many blanket statements on this thread. There's exaggeration and assumption. There's inaccuracy and terms being thrown around recklessly. The word "profiling" is one. If people took the time to read its definition and legal application, they'd perhaps be less loose with its use. Even the word "follow" is being misapplied to what the evidence, incomplete as it may be, points to. "Stalk" is another word being thrown around. There's too much hyperbole. And when angry it is so easy to abuse language and speak as if an opinion is pure fact. But accuracy matters. And looking at the whole of something rather than select parts is the only way to even get close to looking at something objectively. Yes, it's important that we listen to different perspectives. But throwing around insults, and ones doing the same kind of thing that a complaint is in regard to, doesn't much help in getting people to listen. How many of us are really listening to those who don't agree with us on whether the verdict was right or wrong? Do we hear only what we want to hear? For example, but another example could go just the opposite of this one, of course, an African American woman on the defense team gave an interview during which, when asked if George Zimmerman was a racist, she said no. How and why she came to feel this way is something I would hope anyone would be interested in learning more about.

    #146   2013/07/16 04:49PM
    Re: Off-Topic: Geoge Zimmerman was found not guilty!
    Barbyboo
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    Quote vickidink:
    Quote Barbyboo: It seems president Obama gets blamed for everything now a days I think it's the republicans the no people that are holding recovery back..that being said calling people names and fighting is not going to solve anything. The news will squeeze this story. Then go on to next hot topic...gun control nah republicans don't want it. Immigration nah republications don't want it whats for supper champagne, filet mingon. Yea we want it and we got the bucks to pay for it..boo!


    I voted Republican this time - and I don't have money for champagne, filet mignon - my daughter is on food stamps and Wic. I have to take out payday loans some times to make ends meet - not all Republicans are rich - some vote Republican because if something isn't done - there won't be any more people to pay the taxes that support the services that the poor receive. Being Republican has nothing to do with the Zimmerman case. Whoever the President is at any given time is blamed for everything.

    Sorry your having a rough time wis you well, but I still think the rep,are holding up progress ..party on no but that's why America is so great we all,have a vote, this jury voted innocent

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    #147   2013/07/16 04:53PM
    Re: Off-Topic: Geoge Zimmerman was found not guilty!
    Barbyboo
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    Quote bukopandan:
    Quote vickidink:
    Quote hubbardfan:
    Quote vickidink: Michael Vick being Black played no part in him going to jail for animal abuse - being a vicious monster is why Michael Vick went to jail.


    There you go w/those stereotypical 'code words'...vicious monster! You people always manage to find a way to label us!


    "You people" what are you referring to me as "White" "Hispanic" what exactly? So I am labeling Blacks by calling Michael Vick a "vicious monster"? - Tell me then what do you call a person of any race who electrocutes, hangs and does other horrific things to dogs to kill them because they have outlived their usefulness to them? You are just looking for a way to perpetuate that "all" whites or people not of color are "labeling" Blacks. Surely, you don't condone what Michael Vick did!



    There are a number of assumptions being made about more than one race and a good amount of lumping together, and some of the comments seem to come from a place not just of pain and wishing to share and enlighten, but also of contributing to perpetuating the "other" and of deciding that everyone needs a ground-zero education about race relations (not all white people are segregationists and some of us are even married to someone of another color and have long been educated on and involved in improving race relations). There are many blanket statements on this thread. There's exaggeration and assumption. There's inaccuracy and terms being thrown around recklessly. The word "profiling" is one. If people took the time to read its definition and legal application, they'd perhaps be less loose with its use. Even the word "follow" is being misapplied to what the evidence, incomplete as it may be, points to. "Stalk" is another word being thrown around. There's too much hyperbole. And when angry it is so easy to abuse language and speak as if an opinion is pure fact. But accuracy matters. And looking at the whole of something rather than select parts is the only way to even get close to looking at something objectively. Yes, it's important that we listen to different perspectives. But throwing around insults, and ones doing the same kind of thing that a complaint is in regard to, doesn't much help in getting people to listen. How many of us are really listening to those who don't agree with us on whether the verdict was right or wrong? Do we hear only what we want to hear? For example, but another example could go just the opposite of this one, of course, an African American woman on the defense team gave an interview during which, when asked if George Zimmerman was a racist, she said no. How and why she came to feel this way is something I would hope anyone would be interested in learning more about.

    Yes great post we really didn't have all the facts the news likes to Ryle people up for rateings

    #148   2013/07/16 05:40PM
    Re: Off-Topic: Geoge Zimmerman was found not guilty!
    hubbardfan
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    Quote vickidink:
    Quote hubbardfan:
    Quote vickidink: Michael Vick being Black played no part in him going to jail for animal abuse - being a vicious monster is why Michael Vick went to jail.


    There you go w/those stereotypical 'code words'...vicious monster! You people always manage to find a way to label us!


    "You people" what are you referring to me as "White" "Hispanic" what exactly? So I am labeling Blacks by calling Michael Vick a "vicious monster"? - Tell me then what do you call a person of any race who electrocutes, hangs and does other horrific things to dogs to kill them because they have outlived their usefulness to them? You are just looking for a way to perpetuate that "all" whites or people not of color are "labeling" Blacks. Surely, you don't condone what Michael Vick did!


    No, I don't condone it, as a matter of fact; but instead of LABELING him, just say what he did was despicable and you find his behavior indefensible, disgusting, whatever! I don't know what ethnicity you are, and I'm not perpetuating anything, I'm stating my opinion! That term 'you people' is used against us quite often; now you know how offensive it is, so choose better adjectives next time, instead of highly charged words to depict Black men as 'vicious monsters! (yes, I know your specific reference was to MV)!
    I think Bukopandan made some excellent points, so I'm going to bow out of this thread, as I've said all I have to say; Everyone's opinion is based on their own personal experiences and not to be discounted! Thanks!

    #149   2013/07/16 06:09PM
    Re: Off-Topic: Geoge Zimmerman was found not guilty!
    Chuckyducky
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    Hi,

    I'd like to share with all the jurors decisions. In an interview conducted by Anderson Cooper, one of the juror's admitted that the vote was initially split. They had 3 not guilty, 1 second-degree murder and 2 manslaughter. However, in the end, they all unanimously voted not guilty for 2 second-degree murder and manslaughter. To some justice was served, the jury did their duty and an innocent man was allowed to resume life as before. To others, the balance of justice was unfairly tipped in favor of a killer, while the victim was portrayed as the criminal.

    For many (including myself), this case stirred a lot of deep-seeded emotions and for others, it was an example of the United States judicial system's impeccable integrity. Whatever the case may be, Zimmerman is free to live out his days without the threat of imprisonment and however painful it is to broach, Trayvon Martin's laughter, love, passion and finally his life will forever be silenced after that night.

    Anyway, I thank you all for sharing your thoughts on the jury's verdict and various other opinions. It's time to put this thread to bed.

    Trayvon Martin and his parents will be in my prayers. I wish them God speed and pray they find a way to weather the pain.

    That's it for me. I'm out!

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    #150   2013/07/16 07:35PM
    Re: Off-Topic: Geoge Zimmerman was found not guilty!
    shalaydra75
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    Quote SteffyFan01:
    Quote shalaydra75:
    Quote SunshineFL: I am a profiler. I just found that out watching segments on the Martin-Zimmerman trial. It is true. If I see someone in our yard or a neighbor’s yard I do follow them with my cell phone in hand. Do I carry a gun? You will never know – until necessary. But I am not profiling a race, I am profiling a stranger.
    George Zimmerman is Hispanic-not white. Because he goes to school taking classes on law enforcement and has a gun permit- that makes him a “wanna-be” cop?
    The 911 operator is just that - a radio operation. The person on the end of the phone is not a sworn police officer and can only make suggestions, not order you to do anything.
    This troubled teen-ager was there because he has been suspended from school. So why was he out alone? Where was this “child’s” parental supervision? I can assure you if I had a troubled teen –they would be right under my thumb, but his father did not even know he was missing till the next day.
    If this “child” knew he was being followed by an adult, why didn’t he ask if there was a problem? Speak up – no answer then run to someone’s door and start ringing doorbells.
    Zimmerman was not a fat man when this happened. Check the photos. While on house arrest he gained approximately 100 lbs.
    On the original 911 tape Zimmerman does not state that the teen is black until the 911 operator ask him if he is white or black. Prior to that Zimmerman referred to him as a punk. The version of the 911 tape being played on TV has been edited. The original was played during trial.
    The State’s own witness - girlfriend of TM- referred to Zimmerman as a cracker – profiling?
    More blood as evidence? It was raining.
    The jurors are being slammed because of the way they voted. They voted on the evidence they were presented and by the law as written. Had the pressure not been placed on the Seminole County State Attorney by the politicians and the media in the manner that it was then maybe the charges would have been done correctly after the investigation was completed correctly and Zimmerman would now be in jail. It was scheduled to go before the Grand Jury, but the Special Prosecutor- Ms. Corey had Zimmerman arrested prior to that date. Maybe the Grand Jury would have resulted in winnable charges.
    Would the media be so eager to follow this if Zimmerman had used a rock to kill him rather than a gun? If it is the gun is the problem let’s change the laws.
    Bottom line – a 17 year old young man will never get to be an adult. An adult Hispanic man will never have peace for the remainder of his life. No matter what is done or said this can never be changed. The situation is too sad for too many people.
    I was born in Sanford. I live in Sanford. I am proud Sanford is my home.
    Prayer for the Martin family. Pray for the Zimmerman family.



    People of your ideology blame the media, Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton for inciting violence. Your post will certainly incite violence. After this verdict, many black parents are wondering how to protect their children. Leaving them vulnerable to serial killers is not an option. That is exactly what you are asking us to do when you claim that they should defer to a stranger. You admitting that you roam your neighborhood with a loaded gun will encourage other people to do likewise. I am happy I do not live FL. Thanks to your posts, I will not visit your Godforsaken state.



    Serial killers??? Zimmerman is far from a serial killer. No one specific race has to worry about there children more! All children heck all people are in jeopardy...its a cruel world and not just for one race! If people are so worried about there children maybe they should know were there at at all times. The truth is everyone has profiled someone at some point in there life...sitting at a red light and you see a scragly person Whom maybe on drugs you think lock the door thats a crack head. A person whom talks to your child at the grocery store and you pay extra attention just incase! Lets not just classify FL as a bad state there are bad people of all races around this messed up country!



    I never said GZ was a serial killer. I said that when posters state that children should defer to strangers, they are setting up those children as prey for serial killers. TM owed GZ nothing. GZ had no right to follow TM. When a stranger follows a child, that child has the right to fight for his/her life. TM did know who GZ was. GZ never identified himself to TM.

    In my neck of the woods, whites using Meth is the biggest problem. Usually, they are not thrown in prison, but serve a few days in jail. A lot of them steal and are confrontational, but when I see a white youth, I do not feel the need to chase them down with a loaded gun. I allow my small children to play in my fenced backyard, and I look out of my door's peep hole before openning it. I therefore do not worry about a Meth invasion. There was biracial stealing ring in my town. Theives were smart enough to know that store clerks would watch blacks not whites. They would go into store while blacks would pretend to shop, the whites would be

    A state that allows a grown man to stalk and kill a child and give an abused woman who fired a warning in her own ceiling 20 years is indeed Godforsaken. Since I am a Heat fan, a beach lover and have small children who love periodical trip to Disney World, my husband were seriously considering purchasing a condo in FL. With these cases, I will not place a big toe in FL. When my children become teenagers, I do not want to escort them everywhere. That is why although I live in a gulf state, I will pay more money to go Disneyland.

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