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    The Kiss.........oh my.......

    Started by Cabo at 2013/07/12 05:19PM
    Latest post: 2013/07/16 06:59AM, Views: 4726, Replies: 72
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    #61   2013/07/14 08:52PM
    Re: The Kiss.........oh my.......
    Chillyfan25
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    Chloe's priorities were where they were supposed to be when Delia was in the hospital, on DELIA. Chloe is hardly the devil for being concerned for her daughter's health and welfare cansidering she almost died not that long ago. She called Billy, Delia's father, which was appropriate. Should she have called Kevin sooner? Sure. But I can't fault her for being too concerned with Delia to be pulled away from her bedside to make a phone call.

    If Victoria was so concerned about Billy she would perhaps set up meetings, attend with him. But nope. She just judges on that predestal she has placed herself upon. And frankly, for someone who says he wants his wife back Billy sure isn't working too hard at getting there.

    #62   2013/07/15 02:49AM
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    Kerfuffles
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    Totally agree, ChillyFan..

    Plus...Chloe is treating Kevin like husband she'd not really in love with. Because she's not. Chloe has never seemed in love with him. So she'd leave him at the first opportunity is hardly surprising. I've got no problem with Chloe not supporting Kevin (though I DO think she gave him opportunities to clean up his act and he refused to admit he had a problem). Chloe isn't Kevin's "Ride Or Die " chick. She doesn't love him enough to stick by him through better or worse. That's why Chlovin needed to END.

    Same reason why Bicky needs to end and that it's a joke for Bicky to be portrayed as some "Great Love."

    We're supposed to believe that Victoria really is *so in love* with Billy and is a great wife to him. Yet she's been anything but to him. Runs away and dumps him at the first sign of trouble. Runs back to her daddy, no less, that put Billy on prison before and was going to let his daughter die. Tells Billy she doesn't think he can ever beat his addiction. And just refuses him ANY help or support.

    Billy needs to leave VIcky and find himself a true love.

    #63   2013/07/15 04:01AM
    Re: The Kiss.........oh my.......
    Supercouplev...
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    Quote Chillyfan25: Chloe's priorities were where they were supposed to be when Delia was in the hospital, on DELIA. Chloe is hardly the devil for being concerned for her daughter's health and welfare cansidering she almost died not that long ago. She called Billy, Delia's father, which was appropriate. Should she have called Kevin sooner? Sure. But I can't fault her for being too concerned with Delia to be pulled away from her bedside to make a phone call.

    If Victoria was so concerned about Billy she would perhaps set up meetings, attend with him. But nope. She just judges on that predestal she has placed herself upon. And frankly, for someone who says he wants his wife back Billy sure isn't working too hard at getting there.


    OMG you are so funny, can't stop lauging, set up a meeting for him, Yeah that would work, LOL, you can't force an addict to quit, lol
    Chloe can look out for Delia, but Victoria can't look out for Johnny, his gambing can put everyone in danger
    Billy wants to quit FOR Victoria, he needs to want to quit for himself, love does not beat out addiction, even though it did for about 4 months (how long he has been feeling the pull to gamble again)
    Victoria did not go running to daddy, SHE Thought the ranch was empty

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    #64   2013/07/15 04:44AM
    Re: The Kiss.........oh my.......
    Homesick Cajun
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    Quote Supercouplevilly:
    Quote Chillyfan25: Chloe's priorities were where they were supposed to be when Delia was in the hospital, on DELIA. Chloe is hardly the devil for being concerned for her daughter's health and welfare cansidering she almost died not that long ago. She called Billy, Delia's father, which was appropriate. Should she have called Kevin sooner? Sure. But I can't fault her for being too concerned with Delia to be pulled away from her bedside to make a phone call.

    If Victoria was so concerned about Billy she would perhaps set up meetings, attend with him. But nope. She just judges on that predestal she has placed herself upon. And frankly, for someone who says he wants his wife back Billy sure isn't working too hard at getting there.


    OMG you are so funny, can't stop lauging, set up a meeting for him, Yeah that would work, LOL, you can't force an addict to quit, lol
    Chloe can look out for Delia, but Victoria can't look out for Johnny, his gambing can put everyone in danger
    Billy wants to quit FOR Victoria, he needs to want to quit for himself, love does not beat out addiction, even though it did for about 4 months (how long he has been feeling the pull to gamble again)
    Victoria did not go running to daddy, SHE Thought the ranch was empty


    Billy can't stop gambling FOR anyone but himself.

    That being said, Victoria would not "schedule" a meeting for him, if you are referring to a GA meeting.

    She could check online, newspaper, etc. to find the next available meeting, time, place, etc.. That's the procedure for meetings in GA.

    She could also get actively involved in GAM-ANON, which is the support group for GA that teaches families of loved ones with a gambling problem the proper way to deal with that particular addition.
    Also, there are "open" and "closed" meetings in addiction support groups. The "closed" meetings are for addicts only.
    The "open" meetings are for the addicts and their families as well. Families are not only invited but encouraged to participate.
    As far as "scheduling" a private addiction specialist for him, that she could and IMO should do that at the very least.
    Her behavior is anything BUT supportive. If Billy were in a the great state of DENIAL her behavior would be appropriate, however he has admitted he has a problem, which is the 1st step in any recovery program.

    It was at that point in time her behavior should have been to assist in his recovery, unless of course she doesn't give a rats behind what happens to him.

    I used to love Billy and Victoria as a couple. No more. I want the old Billy back. The cocky, self confident Billy. Victoria has emasculated him. If I see the old Billy with Chloe then I am all for that!

    #65   2013/07/15 04:52AM
    Re: The Kiss.........oh my.......
    Homesick Cajun
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    Sorry, you said "set up" I put "schedule".... close to the same...

    #66   2013/07/15 06:25AM
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    spartes
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    Can any of Chilly fans say Billy ever say he love Chloe or show her how much she means to him.I know he told her that his Delia means the world to him and that why he is marrying her in the first place. But if Billy fell in love with doing that period everybody should know. Billy wouldn't keep that from Chloe and plus he would show itlike kisses and toughing.I'M JUST SAYING

    #67   2013/07/15 06:58AM
    Re: The Kiss.........oh my.......
    On a Clear Day
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    I was never a Chilly fan bit since they have both hopefully matured and do have a child together, maybe if the writers do decide to break up Villy, Chilly will work second time around. And I love the way Chloe was supporting him versus Vicky's abandoning him and forgetting the "for worse" part of her vows.

    In the real world I don't think a wife would have abandoned hubby on his first relapse of an addiction, but writers obviously wanted to give Vicky a reason to step out long enough to let Chloe in to make angst for Villy or break them up completely. That's obvious.

    #68   2013/07/15 10:14PM
    Re: The Kiss.........oh my.......
    Kerfuffles
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    Quote Homesick Cajun:
    Quote Supercouplevilly:
    Quote Chillyfan25: Chloe's priorities were where they were supposed to be when Delia was in the hospital, on DELIA. Chloe is hardly the devil for being concerned for her daughter's health and welfare cansidering she almost died not that long ago. She called Billy, Delia's father, which was appropriate. Should she have called Kevin sooner? Sure. But I can't fault her for being too concerned with Delia to be pulled away from her bedside to make a phone call.

    If Victoria was so concerned about Billy she would perhaps set up meetings, attend with him. But nope. She just judges on that predestal she has placed herself upon. And frankly, for someone who says he wants his wife back Billy sure isn't working too hard at getting there.


    OMG you are so funny, can't stop lauging, set up a meeting for him, Yeah that would work, LOL, you can't force an addict to quit, lol
    Chloe can look out for Delia, but Victoria can't look out for Johnny, his gambing can put everyone in danger
    Billy wants to quit FOR Victoria, he needs to want to quit for himself, love does not beat out addiction, even though it did for about 4 months (how long he has been feeling the pull to gamble again)
    Victoria did not go running to daddy, SHE Thought the ranch was empty


    Billy can't stop gambling FOR anyone but himself.

    That being said, Victoria would not "schedule" a meeting for him, if you are referring to a GA meeting.

    She could check online, newspaper, etc. to find the next available meeting, time, place, etc.. That's the procedure for meetings in GA.

    She could also get actively involved in GAM-ANON, which is the support group for GA that teaches families of loved ones with a gambling problem the proper way to deal with that particular addition.
    Also, there are "open" and "closed" meetings in addiction support groups. The "closed" meetings are for addicts only.
    The "open" meetings are for the addicts and their families as well. Families are not only invited but encouraged to participate.
    As far as "scheduling" a private addiction specialist for him, that she could and IMO should do that at the very least.
    Her behavior is anything BUT supportive. If Billy were in a the great state of DENIAL her behavior would be appropriate, however he has admitted he has a problem, which is the 1st step in any recovery program.

    It was at that point in time her behavior should have been to assist in his recovery, unless of course she doesn't give a rats behind what happens to him.

    I used to love Billy and Victoria as a couple. No more. I want the old Billy back. The cocky, self confident Billy. Victoria has emasculated him. If I see the old Billy with Chloe then I am all for that!


    PREACH. If Victoria truly loved Billy, she wouldn't just abandon him in his time of need like she did. She just left town. Didn't try to help her support him. And now she's shacking up with mommy & daddy. A daddy who has done worse things to Victoria (and had worse ramifications) than ANYTHING Billy has EVER done. Victoria his acting like a disloyal, self-absorbed, spoiled daddy's girl--NOT like a wife who truly loves Billy.

    Anyway--so yeah, the Chilly scenes have been awesome. Great chemistry, great dialogue. Chloe supporting Billy, Billy acknowledging how much Chloe gets him. THAT KISS. The cute awkwardness afterward. LOVE IT.

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    #69   2013/07/15 10:55PM
    Re: The Kiss.........oh my.......
    Kerfuffles
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    Quote sharon n nick 4eva:
    Quote Supercouplevilly:
    Quote On a Clear Day:
    Quote Supercouplevilly:
    Quote On a Clear Day: I enjoyed it but I did think it was a bit tepid and they were both surprised and confused by it and tried to sluff it off. And Billy was not too into it. However, that is probably the way they should write their first kiss because otherwise people would be all over them saying how awful they are jumping each other's bones right away while still married to others.... even though Vicky left Billy, & Chloe has left Kevin. I don't think they want Vicky fans to hate on Billy too much. They are just teasing us showing us it could go either way so both fan bases will be hoping for more and better kisses from them, or else for Billy to go back to Vicky. Vicky is being such a brat though, it's hard not to root from Chilly.


    Chloe isn't being a brat? Victoria was kidnapped and held at gunpoint, Chloe spent a night in jail, who has more reason?
    Chloe and Kevin have taken their rings off, Billy and Victoria have not.


    If Victoria loved Billy and took their wedding vows seriously she would have stayed by his side and made sure he got help for his relapse, not promptly judged him, left him, and left him to escalate in gambling, and left the door open for Chloe to steal her man while she's out riding her high horse.

    Victoria knows Billy is a lovable screw up and an addict and that chances are he would have a relapse when she signed onto this marriage. The sensible thing to do would have been to stick by him while he gets help right away so the situation would not blow up into a kidnapping scenario. His gambling was in the very early stages. She overreacted saying she and Johnny were going to be kidnapped. If she was so worried about that, she would have stayed and saw that he got help to extinquish the behavior BEFORE it escalated into something as bad as he got himself into a long time ago after years of high stake gambling all over the world when his mama and Jack bailed him out over his debts.

    The writers just had her react this way to stir up trouble and make angst. Unfortunately for Victoria's character all this does is make her character look unreasonable and cold and make viewers feel sorry for Billy who is actually the one who did wrong and should be the one getting most of the bad press. Writing it like this also made a possible Chilly hook-up not seem so bad to a lot of viewers. Victoria's character is yet again the looser in all of this. She is a core character and they should be writing better for her instead of show-casing so many storylines for newbies on in the last 2 years, IMO.


    If she stood by his side, why would he stop gambling, he says he wants to, but he isn't doing anything about it, he doesn't really want to, why would he, it isn't effecting his life all that much, and he is winning. Victoria was so disappointed, her taking off with Johnny didn't get him to a meeting, she is doing what she can to protect her child, and get him to a meeting, her standing by his side, might get him to a meeting, but it wouldn't stick, because he would be doing it for Victoria, do you people not watch the show, even Chloe said it has to be him that wants to straighten out his life, what would there be to straighten out if Victoria was still there. He would have no reason to stop.

    I will say this, I am not buying the way Chloe and Victoria are acting, I am waiting for the scene with Chloe and Victoria, just watch, there is going to be a surprise.


    This is so like Victoria if things don't go her way she's out!

    If she loved Billy so much she would be there fighting for her marriage. But no she's not!


    Yep. It was just like with Lucy/the bought baby. Victoria didn't care that Billy had bought a human being & lied to her for months. She stayed with Billy as long as she got to keep her "purchase." but once her bought baby was taken away and Billy was having a hard time dealing with it, Vicky was dumping Billy while he was in the hospital.

    Chloe & Billy just have "it." They've got that hot chemistry and are just so great in scenes together. The way Chloe was comforting Billy and Billy was looking Chloe and then the way they played the post-kiss awkwardness. I LOVED it. And Billy & Chloe get people talking with just a few scenes. It's awesome


    Looking forward to more Chilly scenes. Can't wait to see what they do next

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    #70   2013/07/16 05:51AM
    Re: The Kiss.........oh my.......
    sharon n nic...
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    Quote mahina: I didn't see the kiss but I know Chilly is always hot. Love EH and BM great chemistry. Billy and Chloe can be their true selves with each other. With others theyre are forced to wear their halos. Except Kevin. I love GR but not Chlovin.

    Icky is a hypocrite. She expects Billy to toe the line. But she's ungrateful to Chelsea who gave her Johnny. She's a jealous brat to Victor and Adam. And I hate both Victurds! That whiny brat is incapable to handle her husband's weakness. Poor Billy has to be Newmanize, keep his balls in her purse, kiss her azz and take care of HER. Shes is suffocating the poor guy.

    When Billy is with Chloe he's an Abbott and a MAN. They can tell each other off honestly without being afraid. And be with Delia more often because she's Daddy's girl! Her scenes with Mommy and Daddy are always adorable! Bring on Chilly!


    Love this post!

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