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    CLOSED: Josh Griffith, aka, "FlopGriff" = Terrible Writer!

    Started by FlopGriff at 2013/06/21 12:02PM
    Latest post: 2013/06/23 10:40PM, Views: 12999, Replies: 77
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    #71   2013/06/23 09:57AM
    Re: Josh Griffith, aka,
    On a Clear Day
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    Quote trixie60: Flop griff, you are spot on with your post. This soap is becoming boring with no interesting story lines. And if one starts out interesting, the writers disappoint us by making them drag out and ending with no substance at all. These writers need to be fired now!


    So true! So many of the s/ls actually started out interesting and I thought, "Wow, I think I know where this is headed and it looks good. Can't wait til it plays out." And then WTF takes over as it morphs into something stupid and unbelievable at a snails pace that makes you want to throw things at the TV.

    #72   2013/06/23 09:59AM
    Re: Josh Griffith, aka,
    On a Clear Day
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    Quote hopey pix: You are so right!!MAB WAS BETTER,IMO!!!I think they should bring her back!And re-hire SPF as Sam,PRONTO!!!Sharon sure needs Sam now!I don't want to see her become a prostitute and pick up men in bars!How is that better?I hate the newbies,except for Chavez and Nu-Noah!!They have been okay!And also get Blake Hood back,ASAP!!Tell the other Abby,now on GH,All is forgiven,come back Abby and Ashley too!Boy,do they need these people back now!!!


    Yes, Sharon needs a nice, normal decent man who treats her well. And Chavez and NuNoah are good but nuAbby and NuKyle do not fit!! They are good actors, just not the right fit at all. Are they FOJ's or something?

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    #73   2013/06/23 11:27AM
    Re: Josh Griffith, aka,
    hbicvicky
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    Quote FlopGriff:
    Bad writing. We've been tricked! This show is quite badly written. There's no subtlety, there's no elegance, there's no irony... it's just an anvilorama.


    Bad writing and bad talent can't be saved. And when you get bad acting you're forced to listen to how bad the writing is. It's bad. Not entirely, but there's a lot of late. They've got structure problems, they've got dialogue problems, they've got pacing problems. This show is in rough shape.




    Word.

    This show is horribly written. It's been 10 months. All I see are FLOPS.


    Wheeler Story. FLOP. Waste of talented actor. Mark Pinter could've been a great nemesis for Victor. Instead he was written as a cartoon villain. Planting a bomb to massacre a family? GMAB! I still don't get his motive. No follow-up. No fallout. Nick, Avery, Vicky, Nikki, never learn of Victor's involvement with Stephanie. All the huffing & puffing Nick did to Victor about putting Avery's life at risk amounts to NOTHING. All is forgotten. Victor is worshipped. Wheeler is a plot point for Adam to take a bullet for Victor. Next!

    Gus Rogan/Belinda Murder. FLOP. Lawd. A hot mess. Leslie & Tyler Michaelson are really Valerie & Davis Rogan. WTF? Why write 2 identities? Then it was Belinda this, Belinda that. Belinda, Belinda, Belinda which turned to Rose, Rose, Rose. Who is Rose? Gus drops dead. Now it's Neil's Gossip Girl escapades and the secret blogger story. Next!

    Newman Inc. FLOP. This regime can't write business stories. Even MAB was better. It started with promise when Jack & Tucker took control and booted Victor. It fell apart when Jack left. The writers forgot NE was publicly traded, the BOD became some phantom off-screen entity that let Adam do whatever. Jack & Tucker's shares were forgotten. Adam, Billy, Sharon, Adam took turns playing CEO. Mason/Sharon bipolar meds, blah, blah. Now NE is allegedly privatized, but again, it's off-screen, no mention of how, or what happened, we're just told Adam found some secret investor, and don't ask any more questions.... Victoria works there for a week & leaves to write children's books. WTF? Nowadays NE is just a place for Adam to drink & whine about Chelsea's baby woes to anyone who will listen. Next!

    Kevin/Chloe/Robin Hood/Bag of Money/Adriana. FLOP. Adriana steals drug money. Alex asks everyone, Where's the money? Chloe & the cat suit breaking into Noah's home to steal the bag of money. Chlovin stealing from richer people and having sex. Robin Hood. Chloe steals from Kay and lets Adriana take the fall & leave town in shame. Kevin does more B&E's. Chloe the troll spends much deserved night in jail & screams about it. These loathesome losers are a waste of space. Why are they still on my screen? Be gone. Next!

    Chelsea's baby lie. FLOP! This character has been pregnant 3 times in a year. N'uff said. Why is she lying about the paternity of her baby? Because that idiot Chloe told her to? Month after month of those two featherbrains Chelsea & Chloe having the same "baby daddy" conversation over and over and over again, I want to smash things and throttle the writers! Dreadful. Rehash of that insipid Chloe/Cane/Billy/Lily baby crap-fest from 5 years ago. Unoriginal. Tedious. Waste of time. STUPID.

    They randomly throw Steve Burton in there, so it gets extra screen time. Week after week of this Chelsea baby story. IT'S PAINFUL and never-ending.

    I actually enjoyed Steve Burton when he first joined the show. I liked Dylan pitted against Nick and making a play for Avery. He sparkled with Sharon Case. He was great with Faith. WHY OH WHY did they have to put JFP's #1 pet in the HORRID Chelsea baby story???? It's cannibalizing the entire show.

    Billy's gambling. Who cares? FLOP! Victoria going crazy on hormones and writing baby books. OMG. No words. I watch YT videos of Bill Bell's Victoria and want to cry. This is so INSULTING and sexist, I cringe.

    Nikki has Multiple Sclerosis. FLOP. Story lasts 5 minutes and got dropped. Pointless.

    Sharon's Bipolar Story. FLOP. Plot point for Adam to play hero and his marriage to fall apart. Whackadoo. Crazypants. Sharon is worse than ever, job-less, friend-less, outcast, pariah, trolling bars for meaningless sex with random men. Only highlight was Lorraine Toussaint who played Dr Watkins. Too bad Sharon ignored everything she said. Next!

    Jamie/Fen/Summer bullying story. The ONLY story that had value under the new regime. Daniel Polo was a real find, and Jamie was the best new character they introduced. The bullying story was surprisingly GOOD until they completely dropped the ball. The resolution was appalling as Jamie apologized to his tormenters, and was promptly shipped off to DC. What a waste. It was all a plot point for Lauren to cheat with Carmine. I like Marco Dapper but they need to give him more to do than just take off his clothes.

    Summer's paternity story. Fans have been waiting for this since 2006. After 7 years, they deserved a pay off. Unfortunately, the ball was dropped. Lousy pacing and poor writing rears its ugly head, sucking all the air out of this storyline. Sorry, I just don't buy that Nick lied for 18 years because he wanted a Cassie replacement. Kyle's sudden interest in Summer screams PLOT POINT. Sharon's non-reaction. WTF? Talk about missing a beat. High point was Nick telling Phyllis, but they lost all momentum by putting this story on the backburner to showcase, you guessed it, CHELSEA'S baby story and the stupid adventures of Chloe & Kevin's miserable lives. WHO CARES? Next!

    Summer's paternity should be the A-tier story driving the entire show. Jack, Nick, Summer, Phyllis front and center. Phyllis is leaving in a month, so let her have the screen time to exit with a bang. Maybe they can turn this around, maybe Peter Bergman can salvage it, but there's only so much good actors can do when the writing fails to deliver. BTW, the image of Phyllis sexing up Kyle sickens me. Truly.

    Other sh*t...

    Sharon inexplicably beds a random dayplayer named Wayne. WTF? Gratuitous. Pointless. Did Sharon need more degradation? Wasn't MAB's 5 years enough? Fcuk you, writers. You promised to fix Sharon. This is not how to do it. She's supposed to be on medication now. If she went off her meds, show us, tell us. Watching her troll bars for more random dick is just depressing.

    JT calls Victoria with a big emergency and texts her that Reed is coming to live with her for undisclosed mysterious reasons. Panic ensues. A month later and still no Reed. WTF? I hate when writers start stories and then just forget. It's lazy and confusing. Sloppy.

    Victoria writing children's books. Come on. Seriously? Note to writers: Victoria belongs in business. Let her run BON, start her own company, work with Abby, join Chancellor, anything.

    Noah Newman. Victor's first grandson. Newman heir. Why is he written like such a loser? He's dirt poor. Can't afford his own apartment or a new couch. Is this guy ever getting a storyline? He pours drinks and bangs random dayplayers off-screen.

    Is it my imagination or has this cast QUADRUPLED?

    JFP's Regime - Grade: F, Fail, utter fail.



    This post is amazingballs. ♥

    I normally avoid soap boards but I just had to log on to give you props! F-Fail is right! William Bell was a story-telling, this FlopGriff guy is a joke.

    #74   2013/06/23 11:59AM
    Re: Josh Griffith, aka,
    hbicvicky
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    Quote maguffin:
    Quote observation:
    Quote roseofsharon1942: If the new writers were fired from GH why are they good enough for Y&R?


    You know...I was wondering the same thing, why hire folk that's been fired from a soap? Are they trying to sabotage the show...it sure looks like it!!


    I keeping asking that question too. If these lame writers got fired from other shows, why hire these losers? They got fired for a reason, right? Their sh*t stinks..


    Nepotism.

    #75   2013/06/23 12:21PM
    Re: Josh Griffith, aka,
    jacksmyguy
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    You made a lot of great points. There have been a lot of dropped story lines, missed opportunities, and altogether dumb moves made with the current regime. Is it any wonder that we long-time viewers are screaming our heads off hoping and praying for a return to the good old days...HOW SAD!

    #76   2013/06/23 01:02PM
    Re: Josh Griffith, aka,
    jacksmyguy
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    Quote julianbarnes:
    Quote maguffin:
    Quote observation:
    Quote roseofsharon1942: If the new writers were fired from GH why are they good enough for Y&R?


    You know...I was wondering the same thing, why hire folk that's been fired from a soap? Are they trying to sabotage the show...it sure looks like it!!


    I keeping asking that question too. If these lame writers got fired from other shows, why hire these losers? They got fired for a reason, right? Their sh*t stinks..



    Did you guys know that "FlopGriff" has 2 Co-Head Writers? Both ladies are "FOJ" (Friends of Jill Phelps) from ABC soaps and were fired from General Hospital.

    Tracey Thomson - Y&R Co-Head Writer: December 7, 2012-present
    Shelly Altman - Y&R Co-Head Writer: March 18, 2013 – Present

    Tracey Thomson wrote for AMC and GH. She was fired.

    Shelly Altman wrote for AW, OLTL, and GH. She was fired.

    JFP is still hiring her friends for writing, lighting, camera crew, music, behind the scenes it's turning into "FOJ" territory. The reason the writers don't respect Y&R history is because they're General Hospital and AMC soap writers who jumped networks with JFP and Stevie Burton.


    I wasn't sure but I suspected as much about all of these ABC imports, as I have believed all along that Y&R has turned into an ABC reject warehouse with their new hires, both behind the scenes and in front of the camera. I have watched GH off and on over time and the years that JFP and company were in charge the show was much like Y&R has become now - a real snooze fest. I just watched GH recently and the pacing and overall story has gotten much better...coincidence? I think not! If changes aren't made to Y&R to get our beloved show back on track ASAP, I'm afraid the current regime will destroy what was once the best soap on the air to beyond repair.

    #77   2013/06/23 10:01PM
    Re: Josh Griffith, aka,
    jilltidwell
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    Quote Sam01234:
    Quote flowergerl: What FlopGriff has shown us during his first year on the job........

    FlopGriff storylines are stupid and make no sense but drag on forever.

    Some stories are started and dropped with no explanation.

    FlopGriff dialog is repetitive repetitive repetitive repetitive repetitive repetitive repetitive repetitive.

    Writing is plot point based, not character driven.

    Characters are dumbed down especially the women.

    No respect of YR history.

    No understanding of Bill Bell's core characters.

    FlopGriff even forgets his own stories or what he wrote the previous week.

    FlopGriff sucks.



    YES!! You nailed it!
    FIRE JOSH GRIFFITH and JILL FARREN PHELPS!
    FIRE JOSH GRIFFITH and JILL FARREN PHELPS!
    FIRE JOSH GRIFFITH and JILL FARREN PHELPS!





    I said JFP should have never been hired.

    #78   2013/06/23 10:40PM
    Re: Josh Griffith, aka,
    Donnamite
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    Quote observation:
    Quote roseofsharon1942: If the new writers were fired from GH why are they good enough for Y&R?


    You know...I was wondering the same thing, why hire folk that's been fired from a soap? Are they trying to sabotage the show...it sure looks like it!!


    My thoughts are . . . If Sony wanted to edge out all the higher paid actors, what better way than to give them horrible story lines. From what I gather is that the new writers are not letting the actors ANY say in the scripts. Might be why MS left. So if we all can stomach all the writing now JUST maybe after all our higher paid actors bail, the writing will improve. I HOPE I am wrong.

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