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    CLOSED: Josh Griffith, aka, "FlopGriff" = Terrible Writer!

    Started by FlopGriff at 2013/06/21 12:02PM
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    #11   2013/06/21 02:27PM
    Re: Josh Griffith, aka,
    daneerose
    image

    Please let me add That Lane are not written to have any deep conversation about anything. Everyone else has to defend them but they are both on mute. What makes them tick why do they react the way the do? Honestly someone should ask FG to return his writing certificate because what we are seeing isn't good soap writing.

    #12   2013/06/21 03:07PM
    Re: Josh Griffith, aka,
    clicquot1
    image

    [quote]Quote countryMomof4: [quote]Quote clicquot1: TWOP rides again![/quote]

    Popular place isn't it! [/quote]




    Yes, COUNTRY and you were the one who turned me on to TWOP! Thanks, ever sooooooooooooooooo much!

    #13   2013/06/21 03:17PM
    Re: Josh Griffith, aka,
    lilpiggy
    image

    Quote FlopGriff:
    Bad writing. We've been tricked! This show is quite badly written. There's no subtlety, there's no elegance, there's no irony... it's just an anvilorama.


    Bad writing and bad talent can't be saved. And when you get bad acting you're forced to listen to how bad the writing is. It's bad. Not entirely, but there's a lot of late. They've got structure problems, they've got dialogue problems, they've got pacing problems. This show is in rough shape.




    Word.

    This show is horribly written. It's been 10 months. All I see are FLOPS.


    Wheeler Story. FLOP. Waste of talented actor. Mark Pinter could've been a great nemesis for Victor. Instead he was written as a cartoon villain. Planting a bomb to massacre a family? GMAB! I still don't get his motive. No follow-up. No fallout. Nick, Avery, Vicky, Nikki, never learn of Victor's involvement with Stephanie. All the huffing & puffing Nick did to Victor about putting Avery's life at risk amounts to NOTHING. All is forgotten. Victor is worshipped. Wheeler is a plot point for Adam to take a bullet for Victor. Next!

    Gus Rogan/Belinda Murder. FLOP. Lawd. A hot mess. Leslie & Tyler Michaelson are really Valerie & Davis Rogan. WTF? Why write 2 identities? Then it was Belinda this, Belinda that. Belinda, Belinda, Belinda which turned to Rose, Rose, Rose. Who is Rose? Gus drops dead. Now it's Neil's Gossip Girl escapades and the secret blogger story. Next!

    Newman Inc. FLOP. This regime can't write business stories. Even MAB was better. It started with promise when Jack & Tucker took control and booted Victor. It fell apart when Jack left. The writers forgot NE was publicly traded, the BOD became some phantom off-screen entity that let Adam do whatever. Jack & Tucker's shares were forgotten. Adam, Billy, Sharon, Adam took turns playing CEO. Mason/Sharon bipolar meds, blah, blah. Now NE is allegedly privatized, but again, it's off-screen, no mention of how, or what happened, we're just told Adam found some secret investor, and don't ask any more questions.... Victoria works there for a week & leaves to write children's books. WTF? Nowadays NE is just a place for Adam to drink & whine about Chelsea's baby woes to anyone who will listen. Next!

    Kevin/Chloe/Robin Hood/Bag of Money/Adriana. FLOP. Adriana steals drug money. Alex asks everyone, Where's the money? Chloe & the cat suit breaking into Noah's home to steal the bag of money. Chlovin stealing from richer people and having sex. Robin Hood. Chloe steals from Kay and lets Adriana take the fall & leave town in shame. Kevin does more B&E's. Chloe the troll spends much deserved night in jail & screams about it. These loathesome losers are a waste of space. Why are they still on my screen? Be gone. Next!

    Chelsea's baby lie. FLOP! This character has been pregnant 3 times in a year. N'uff said. Why is she lying about the paternity of her baby? Because that idiot Chloe told her to? Month after month of those two featherbrains Chelsea & Chloe having the same "baby daddy" conversation over and over and over again, I want to smash things and throttle the writers! Dreadful. Rehash of that insipid Chloe/Cane/Billy/Lily baby crap-fest from 5 years ago. Unoriginal. Tedious. Waste of time. STUPID.

    They randomly throw Steve Burton in there, so it gets extra screen time. Week after week of this Chelsea baby story. IT'S PAINFUL and never-ending.

    I actually enjoyed Steve Burton when he first joined the show. I liked Dylan pitted against Nick and making a play for Avery. He sparkled with Sharon Case. He was great with Faith. WHY OH WHY did they have to put JFP's #1 pet in the HORRID Chelsea baby story???? It's cannibalizing the entire show.

    Billy's gambling. Who cares? FLOP! Victoria going crazy on hormones and writing baby books. OMG. No words. I watch YT videos of Bill Bell's Victoria and want to cry. This is so INSULTING and sexist, I cringe.

    Nikki has Multiple Sclerosis. FLOP. Story lasts 5 minutes and got dropped. Pointless.

    Sharon's Bipolar Story. FLOP. Plot point for Adam to play hero and his marriage to fall apart. Whackadoo. Crazypants. Sharon is worse than ever, job-less, friend-less, outcast, pariah, trolling bars for meaningless sex with random men. Only highlight was Lorraine Toussaint who played Dr Watkins. Too bad Sharon ignored everything she said. Next!

    Jamie/Fen/Summer bullying story. The ONLY story that had value under the new regime. Daniel Polo was a real find, and Jamie was the best new character they introduced. The bullying story was surprisingly GOOD until they completely dropped the ball. The resolution was appalling as Jamie apologized to his tormenters, and was promptly shipped off to DC. What a waste. It was all a plot point for Lauren to cheat with Carmine. I like Marco Dapper but they need to give him more to do than just take off his clothes.

    Summer's paternity story. Fans have been waiting for this since 2006. After 7 years, they deserved a pay off. Unfortunately, the ball was dropped. Lousy pacing and poor writing rears its ugly head, sucking all the air out of this storyline. Sorry, I just don't buy that Nick lied for 18 years because he wanted a Cassie replacement. Kyle's sudden interest in Summer screams PLOT POINT. Sharon's non-reaction. WTF? Talk about missing a beat. High point was Nick telling Phyllis, but they lost all momentum by putting this story on the backburner to showcase, you guessed it, CHELSEA'S baby story and the stupid adventures of Chloe & Kevin's miserable lives. WHO CARES? Next!

    Summer's paternity should be the A-tier story driving the entire show. Jack, Nick, Summer, Phyllis front and center. Phyllis is leaving in a month, so let her have the screen time to exit with a bang. Maybe they can turn this around, maybe Peter Bergman can salvage it, but there's only so much good actors can do when the writing fails to deliver. BTW, the image of Phyllis sexing up Kyle sickens me. Truly.

    Other sh*t...

    Sharon inexplicably beds a random dayplayer named Wayne. WTF? Gratuitous. Pointless. Did Sharon need more degradation? Wasn't MAB's 5 years enough? Fcuk you, writers. You promised to fix Sharon. This is not how to do it. She's supposed to be on medication now. If she went off her meds, show us, tell us. Watching her troll bars for more random dick is just depressing.

    JT calls Victoria with a big emergency and texts her that Reed is coming to live with her for undisclosed mysterious reasons. Panic ensues. A month later and still no Reed. WTF? I hate when writers start stories and then just forget. It's lazy and confusing. Sloppy.

    Victoria writing children's books. Come on. Seriously? Note to writers: Victoria belongs in business. Let her run BON, start her own company, work with Abby, join Chancellor, anything.

    Noah Newman. Victor's first grandson. Newman heir. Why is he written like such a loser? He's dirt poor. Can't afford his own apartment or a new couch. Is this guy ever getting a storyline? He pours drinks and bangs random dayplayers off-screen.

    Is it my imagination or has this cast QUADRUPLED?

    JFP's Regime - Grade: F, Fail, utter fail.
    ..............


    What can one say, you have covered all the bases......

    Preach on.........excellent observations.....

    #14   2013/06/21 03:19PM
    Re: Josh Griffith, aka,
    countryMomof4
    image

    ^^^ Except they belong to someone else.


    You are very welcome clic

    #15   2013/06/21 03:21PM
    Re: Josh Griffith, aka,
    Kelby
    image

    What a fantastic post! I am so disgusted by the show as well. This shows deserves cancellation. I do not want that, but that is exactly what is going to happen, sooner than later. FIRE THESE WRITERS!

    #16   2013/06/21 03:23PM
    Re: Josh Griffith, aka,
    Sunnyflower
    image

    Quote FlopGriff:
    Bad writing. We've been tricked! This show is quite badly written. There's no subtlety, there's no elegance, there's no irony... it's just an anvilorama.


    Bad writing and bad talent can't be saved. And when you get bad acting you're forced to listen to how bad the writing is. It's bad. Not entirely, but there's a lot of late. They've got structure problems, they've got dialogue problems, they've got pacing problems. This show is in rough shape.




    Word.

    This show is horribly written. It's been 10 months. All I see are FLOPS.


    Wheeler Story. FLOP. Waste of talented actor. Mark Pinter could've been a great nemesis for Victor. Instead he was written as a cartoon villain. Planting a bomb to massacre a family? GMAB! I still don't get his motive. No follow-up. No fallout. Nick, Avery, Vicky, Nikki, never learn of Victor's involvement with Stephanie. All the huffing & puffing Nick did to Victor about putting Avery's life at risk amounts to NOTHING. All is forgotten. Victor is worshipped. Wheeler is a plot point for Adam to take a bullet for Victor. Next!

    Gus Rogan/Belinda Murder. FLOP. Lawd. A hot mess. Leslie & Tyler Michaelson are really Valerie & Davis Rogan. WTF? Why write 2 identities? Then it was Belinda this, Belinda that. Belinda, Belinda, Belinda which turned to Rose, Rose, Rose. Who is Rose? Gus drops dead. Now it's Neil's Gossip Girl escapades and the secret blogger story. Next!

    Newman Inc. FLOP. This regime can't write business stories. Even MAB was better. It started with promise when Jack & Tucker took control and booted Victor. It fell apart when Jack left. The writers forgot NE was publicly traded, the BOD became some phantom off-screen entity that let Adam do whatever. Jack & Tucker's shares were forgotten. Adam, Billy, Sharon, Adam took turns playing CEO. Mason/Sharon bipolar meds, blah, blah. Now NE is allegedly privatized, but again, it's off-screen, no mention of how, or what happened, we're just told Adam found some secret investor, and don't ask any more questions.... Victoria works there for a week & leaves to write children's books. WTF? Nowadays NE is just a place for Adam to drink & whine about Chelsea's baby woes to anyone who will listen. Next!

    Kevin/Chloe/Robin Hood/Bag of Money/Adriana. FLOP. Adriana steals drug money. Alex asks everyone, Where's the money? Chloe & the cat suit breaking into Noah's home to steal the bag of money. Chlovin stealing from richer people and having sex. Robin Hood. Chloe steals from Kay and lets Adriana take the fall & leave town in shame. Kevin does more B&E's. Chloe the troll spends much deserved night in jail & screams about it. These loathesome losers are a waste of space. Why are they still on my screen? Be gone. Next!

    Chelsea's baby lie. FLOP! This character has been pregnant 3 times in a year. N'uff said. Why is she lying about the paternity of her baby? Because that idiot Chloe told her to? Month after month of those two featherbrains Chelsea & Chloe having the same "baby daddy" conversation over and over and over again, I want to smash things and throttle the writers! Dreadful. Rehash of that insipid Chloe/Cane/Billy/Lily baby crap-fest from 5 years ago. Unoriginal. Tedious. Waste of time. STUPID.

    They randomly throw Steve Burton in there, so it gets extra screen time. Week after week of this Chelsea baby story. IT'S PAINFUL and never-ending.

    I actually enjoyed Steve Burton when he first joined the show. I liked Dylan pitted against Nick and making a play for Avery. He sparkled with Sharon Case. He was great with Faith. WHY OH WHY did they have to put JFP's #1 pet in the HORRID Chelsea baby story???? It's cannibalizing the entire show.

    Billy's gambling. Who cares? FLOP! Victoria going crazy on hormones and writing baby books. OMG. No words. I watch YT videos of Bill Bell's Victoria and want to cry. This is so INSULTING and sexist, I cringe.

    Nikki has Multiple Sclerosis. FLOP. Story lasts 5 minutes and got dropped. Pointless.

    Sharon's Bipolar Story. FLOP. Plot point for Adam to play hero and his marriage to fall apart. Whackadoo. Crazypants. Sharon is worse than ever, job-less, friend-less, outcast, pariah, trolling bars for meaningless sex with random men. Only highlight was Lorraine Toussaint who played Dr Watkins. Too bad Sharon ignored everything she said. Next!

    Jamie/Fen/Summer bullying story. The ONLY story that had value under the new regime. Daniel Polo was a real find, and Jamie was the best new character they introduced. The bullying story was surprisingly GOOD until they completely dropped the ball. The resolution was appalling as Jamie apologized to his tormenters, and was promptly shipped off to DC. What a waste. It was all a plot point for Lauren to cheat with Carmine. I like Marco Dapper but they need to give him more to do than just take off his clothes.

    Summer's paternity story. Fans have been waiting for this since 2006. After 7 years, they deserved a pay off. Unfortunately, the ball was dropped. Lousy pacing and poor writing rears its ugly head, sucking all the air out of this storyline. Sorry, I just don't buy that Nick lied for 18 years because he wanted a Cassie replacement. Kyle's sudden interest in Summer screams PLOT POINT. Sharon's non-reaction. WTF? Talk about missing a beat. High point was Nick telling Phyllis, but they lost all momentum by putting this story on the backburner to showcase, you guessed it, CHELSEA'S baby story and the stupid adventures of Chloe & Kevin's miserable lives. WHO CARES? Next!

    Summer's paternity should be the A-tier story driving the entire show. Jack, Nick, Summer, Phyllis front and center. Phyllis is leaving in a month, so let her have the screen time to exit with a bang. Maybe they can turn this around, maybe Peter Bergman can salvage it, but there's only so much good actors can do when the writing fails to deliver. BTW, the image of Phyllis sexing up Kyle sickens me. Truly.

    Other sh*t...

    Sharon inexplicably beds a random dayplayer named Wayne. WTF? Gratuitous. Pointless. Did Sharon need more degradation? Wasn't MAB's 5 years enough? Fcuk you, writers. You promised to fix Sharon. This is not how to do it. She's supposed to be on medication now. If she went off her meds, show us, tell us. Watching her troll bars for more random dick is just depressing.

    JT calls Victoria with a big emergency and texts her that Reed is coming to live with her for undisclosed mysterious reasons. Panic ensues. A month later and still no Reed. WTF? I hate when writers start stories and then just forget. It's lazy and confusing. Sloppy.

    Victoria writing children's books. Come on. Seriously? Note to writers: Victoria belongs in business. Let her run BON, start her own company, work with Abby, join Chancellor, anything.

    Noah Newman. Victor's first grandson. Newman heir. Why is he written like such a loser? He's dirt poor. Can't afford his own apartment or a new couch. Is this guy ever getting a storyline? He pours drinks and bangs random dayplayers off-screen.

    Is it my imagination or has this cast QUADRUPLED?

    JFP's Regime - Grade: F, Fail, utter fail.


    Co-sign with the addition that Avery, Leslie and Chelsea make complete flops as lead characters (not blaming the actresses, but the writing and the situation as a whole).

    Nick is a terrible lead too.

    #17   2013/06/21 03:26PM
    Re: Josh Griffith, aka,
    Sunnyflower
    image

    Quote countryMomof4: ^^^ Except they belong to someone else.


    You are very welcome clic


    Who cares? It was a great read - better than most bloggers/soap writers do - and people enjoyed it.

    Kudos to whoever the OP is and thanks to the poster who brought it here. Better than another thread on the same old.

    #18   2013/06/21 03:28PM
    Re: Josh Griffith, aka,
    Sunnyflower
    image

    Quote Kelby: What a fantastic post! I am so disgusted by the show as well. This shows deserves cancellation. I do not want that, but that is exactly what is going to happen, sooner than later. FIRE THESE WRITERS!


    They should follow GH's lead and fire JFP. Hire new writers and watch the ratings soar. She is known in the industry as a soap destroyer.

    #19   2013/06/21 03:32PM
    Re: Josh Griffith, aka,
    countryMomof4
    image

    Quote Sunnyflower:
    Quote countryMomof4: ^^^ Except they belong to someone else.


    You are very welcome clic


    Who cares? It was a great read - better than most bloggers/soap writers do - and people enjoyed it.

    Kudos to whoever the OP is and thanks to the poster who brought it here. Better than another thread on the same old.


    Who cares? Maybe the original poster. Might have nice to give some credit to that person first.

    It is another thread on the same thing. Third one today.

    #20   2013/06/21 03:33PM
    Re: Josh Griffith, aka,
    typower
    image

    Quote Sunnyflower:
    Quote FlopGriff:
    Bad writing. We've been tricked! This show is quite badly written. There's no subtlety, there's no elegance, there's no irony... it's just an anvilorama.


    Bad writing and bad talent can't be saved. And when you get bad acting you're forced to listen to how bad the writing is. It's bad. Not entirely, but there's a lot of late. They've got structure problems, they've got dialogue problems, they've got pacing problems. This show is in rough shape.




    Word.

    This show is horribly written. It's been 10 months. All I see are FLOPS.


    Wheeler Story. FLOP. Waste of talented actor. Mark Pinter could've been a great nemesis for Victor. Instead he was written as a cartoon villain. Planting a bomb to massacre a family? GMAB! I still don't get his motive. No follow-up. No fallout. Nick, Avery, Vicky, Nikki, never learn of Victor's involvement with Stephanie. All the huffing & puffing Nick did to Victor about putting Avery's life at risk amounts to NOTHING. All is forgotten. Victor is worshipped. Wheeler is a plot point for Adam to take a bullet for Victor. Next!

    Gus Rogan/Belinda Murder. FLOP. Lawd. A hot mess. Leslie & Tyler Michaelson are really Valerie & Davis Rogan. WTF? Why write 2 identities? Then it was Belinda this, Belinda that. Belinda, Belinda, Belinda which turned to Rose, Rose, Rose. Who is Rose? Gus drops dead. Now it's Neil's Gossip Girl escapades and the secret blogger story. Next!

    Newman Inc. FLOP. This regime can't write business stories. Even MAB was better. It started with promise when Jack & Tucker took control and booted Victor. It fell apart when Jack left. The writers forgot NE was publicly traded, the BOD became some phantom off-screen entity that let Adam do whatever. Jack & Tucker's shares were forgotten. Adam, Billy, Sharon, Adam took turns playing CEO. Mason/Sharon bipolar meds, blah, blah. Now NE is allegedly privatized, but again, it's off-screen, no mention of how, or what happened, we're just told Adam found some secret investor, and don't ask any more questions.... Victoria works there for a week & leaves to write children's books. WTF? Nowadays NE is just a place for Adam to drink & whine about Chelsea's baby woes to anyone who will listen. Next!

    Kevin/Chloe/Robin Hood/Bag of Money/Adriana. FLOP. Adriana steals drug money. Alex asks everyone, Where's the money? Chloe & the cat suit breaking into Noah's home to steal the bag of money. Chlovin stealing from richer people and having sex. Robin Hood. Chloe steals from Kay and lets Adriana take the fall & leave town in shame. Kevin does more B&E's. Chloe the troll spends much deserved night in jail & screams about it. These loathesome losers are a waste of space. Why are they still on my screen? Be gone. Next!

    Chelsea's baby lie. FLOP! This character has been pregnant 3 times in a year. N'uff said. Why is she lying about the paternity of her baby? Because that idiot Chloe told her to? Month after month of those two featherbrains Chelsea & Chloe having the same "baby daddy" conversation over and over and over again, I want to smash things and throttle the writers! Dreadful. Rehash of that insipid Chloe/Cane/Billy/Lily baby crap-fest from 5 years ago. Unoriginal. Tedious. Waste of time. STUPID.

    They randomly throw Steve Burton in there, so it gets extra screen time. Week after week of this Chelsea baby story. IT'S PAINFUL and never-ending.

    I actually enjoyed Steve Burton when he first joined the show. I liked Dylan pitted against Nick and making a play for Avery. He sparkled with Sharon Case. He was great with Faith. WHY OH WHY did they have to put JFP's #1 pet in the HORRID Chelsea baby story???? It's cannibalizing the entire show.

    Billy's gambling. Who cares? FLOP! Victoria going crazy on hormones and writing baby books. OMG. No words. I watch YT videos of Bill Bell's Victoria and want to cry. This is so INSULTING and sexist, I cringe.

    Nikki has Multiple Sclerosis. FLOP. Story lasts 5 minutes and got dropped. Pointless.

    Sharon's Bipolar Story. FLOP. Plot point for Adam to play hero and his marriage to fall apart. Whackadoo. Crazypants. Sharon is worse than ever, job-less, friend-less, outcast, pariah, trolling bars for meaningless sex with random men. Only highlight was Lorraine Toussaint who played Dr Watkins. Too bad Sharon ignored everything she said. Next!

    Jamie/Fen/Summer bullying story. The ONLY story that had value under the new regime. Daniel Polo was a real find, and Jamie was the best new character they introduced. The bullying story was surprisingly GOOD until they completely dropped the ball. The resolution was appalling as Jamie apologized to his tormenters, and was promptly shipped off to DC. What a waste. It was all a plot point for Lauren to cheat with Carmine. I like Marco Dapper but they need to give him more to do than just take off his clothes.

    Summer's paternity story. Fans have been waiting for this since 2006. After 7 years, they deserved a pay off. Unfortunately, the ball was dropped. Lousy pacing and poor writing rears its ugly head, sucking all the air out of this storyline. Sorry, I just don't buy that Nick lied for 18 years because he wanted a Cassie replacement. Kyle's sudden interest in Summer screams PLOT POINT. Sharon's non-reaction. WTF? Talk about missing a beat. High point was Nick telling Phyllis, but they lost all momentum by putting this story on the backburner to showcase, you guessed it, CHELSEA'S baby story and the stupid adventures of Chloe & Kevin's miserable lives. WHO CARES? Next!

    Summer's paternity should be the A-tier story driving the entire show. Jack, Nick, Summer, Phyllis front and center. Phyllis is leaving in a month, so let her have the screen time to exit with a bang. Maybe they can turn this around, maybe Peter Bergman can salvage it, but there's only so much good actors can do when the writing fails to deliver. BTW, the image of Phyllis sexing up Kyle sickens me. Truly.

    Other sh*t...

    Sharon inexplicably beds a random dayplayer named Wayne. WTF? Gratuitous. Pointless. Did Sharon need more degradation? Wasn't MAB's 5 years enough? Fcuk you, writers. You promised to fix Sharon. This is not how to do it. She's supposed to be on medication now. If she went off her meds, show us, tell us. Watching her troll bars for more random dick is just depressing.

    JT calls Victoria with a big emergency and texts her that Reed is coming to live with her for undisclosed mysterious reasons. Panic ensues. A month later and still no Reed. WTF? I hate when writers start stories and then just forget. It's lazy and confusing. Sloppy.

    Victoria writing children's books. Come on. Seriously? Note to writers: Victoria belongs in business. Let her run BON, start her own company, work with Abby, join Chancellor, anything.

    Noah Newman. Victor's first grandson. Newman heir. Why is he written like such a loser? He's dirt poor. Can't afford his own apartment or a new couch. Is this guy ever getting a storyline? He pours drinks and bangs random dayplayers off-screen.

    Is it my imagination or has this cast QUADRUPLED?

    JFP's Regime - Grade: F, Fail, utter fail.


    Co-sign with the addition that Avery, Leslie and Chelsea make complete flops as lead characters (not blaming the actresses, but the writing and the situation as a whole).

    Nick is a terrible lead too.



    Leslie is a lead?

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