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Revenge or justice?
Started by mdtuttle at 2012/07/18 02:49PMLatest post: 2012/07/19 08:46AM, Views: 2508, Replies: 83
clicquot1 |
Quote mdtuttle: Quote KeepingItReal: Well, I think its both but lawlfully it is "justice". Afterall Christine could be dead. Some should put themselves in the other person shoes and see how it feels....Michael, Lauren, etc... Have you ever been run down and left for dead....Lauren I think you can relate.  I do agree that Christine has every right to be upset and want some kind of justice for what Phyllis did to her. But I also think we need to measure how Christine has forgiven other poeple that have wronged her in the past. Micheal raped her and for this he was disbarred and jailed. Christine forgave him when he said he was a changed man. Helped him get out of jail and even helped him get his license to practice law back. For a while she was even a partner in his law firm and look at Micheal now he is a well respected member of the community. Danny cheated on Christine when they were married but she forgave him and put all the blame on Phylliss. Nina and Christine have had issues but she has always been forgiving of Nina. Pauk and Christine's marriage ended but she holds no ill will against him I wil grant that with the possible exception of Micheal's crime against Christine all these other examples pail in comparision to what Phyllis did. But my point is Phyllis could be forced to face and admit her crime and even pay for what she did without being sent to prison. At this point I do not see Jail as serving any constructive purpose. MB did not rape Christine but he did sexualkly harass herhold her agaisnt her will, and try to tunnel into the apartment next to his9which was her's)to get to her. he was stopped before any harm came to Christine. he was obsessed with her but the key is he paid his debt to society by serving his time. That is what Christine wants Phyllis to do pay for her crime. MB did not attempt to kill her although, attempting to rape someone is quite often close to attempted murder. Paul and DR cheated on her and she forgave them but they did not attempt to murder her. Heck, Red herself forgave Nick who not only cheated on her but cheated on her with her sister, her sworn enemy Diane(the one who set her up for attempted murder and arson)and for getting Sharon preggers! MB not only paid his debt to society but also worked very hard to reform himself but now it looks like he is slipping back into old habits/criminal ways even though he is the DA! MB also gave Paul one of his kidney's(Paul or DR one of them!) Maybe Phyllis can give Christine a kidney after she serves a couple of years! I actually think there will be some sort of plea bargain after the trial has been going on for awhile! That or there will be a mistrial! Heck, the judge might even though the case out on a procedure, jury misconduct, jury tampering, withholding evidence, or any number of things! |
KeepingItReal |
You did not quote something from the Lord and mention Phyllis in the same breath. smh |
yandrfan99 |
Quote lisa diane: ok so what is this I have read that Ronan put his badge on sacrifice for Phylis? And now he is telling Michael that he understand where Christine is coming from? WTH? Where is Ronan going with this? Ok first Ronan did not sacrifice his badge or anything else for Phyllis. He said he came as a friend and to prove he came as a friend and not a cop he put his gun and badge on her coffee table. On his way out he picked it up. He finally admitted the truth today if it were him Phyllis ran down he doesn`t know if he could forget it. The sacrificing of his badge is all in someone`s imagination, |
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yandrfan99 |
Quote Sapora: Quote lisa diane: Great Post, I don't know maybe its a little of both, I mean I would want justice that is for sure no matter how long ago it was so I can see her point on that one. I didn't watch today yet but I think she may want her embarrassed in front of her friends and family , right now all she wants is Phylis to pay. If this was Phylis she would be doing the same exact thing. Look how many times she wrote in her magazine about people, remember while back when she lurked around everyone , just about all the female characters and wrote about them in the magazine that was embarrassing for them not only for their rep but for their kids to see. Phylis had no remorse about that, she didn't care if their loved ones seen it and none of these people hit her and run after, so there was no reason for her to do this to these people. Christine was H and R by this lady so she wants her to pay with both revenge and justice and in my opinion Phylis deserves it. If Phylis can do this to others for no reason, or just to get a story in a magazine no matter who she hurts then I say Christine has the right to do this. I absolutely agree with you. Yes, Christine probably wants revenge more than justice, but look who we are talking about.Phyllis had no problem humiliating people in RS, and she enjoyed it, did not care if someone's children saw it or not. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, she should get special treatment? WHY  I agree and Phyllis is the master of getting revenge her life has been based on it. |
1Happy Granny |
Do they have to be mutually exclusive? Are we supposed to see Phyllis as the victim here? Because she didn't ACTUALLY kill anyone that time...so what???do we give her another car and let her have a do over? |
lisa diane |
ooooh ok that is much better. Thank you for clearing that up for me the way they were talking is he gave up his badge for her calling him a dirty cop and all, I was so upset over that because I love Ronan. Thanks again. |
Moniker1979 |
As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter if it's revenge or justice. Phyllis committed a major crime and she deserves to be locked up for it for a long time. |
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SLEUTH |
I don't really see what difference it makes as to whether it is revenge or justice. A crime was committed and the perp is in denial and rationalizing. Not fair that the DA can't be objective, not fair the the FBI guy is still had a thing with the perp. Michael made Heather remove herself --if Christine was smart she would have Michael and Ronan removed from the case. |
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clicquot1 |
Quote mdtuttle: Quote jtb1974: Does it really make a difference? Both are warranted. Revenge and justice go hand in hand. There is a huge diffrence. Justice is about someone acceprting resposibility for what they did and facing the consequeces. Revenge is simply about wanting to see someone suffer. If Phyllis had gotten caught all those years ago and continued in the same behavior I would have said throw her in jail. However in the time since the hit and run Phyllis has built a life, been a productive meber of socity. Has she made mistakes and done some things that are wrong. You bet she has but that is not what the charges are about. For all the wrong things Phyllis has done she has done some right things too. She is the one that found out that faith belonged to Nick and Sharon and told them.She also helped Noah through a lot of turmoil when Sharon was either in jail or off with Adam or any other number of things. She is actually the one that dug for the truth that got Sharon out from under a murder charge. Phyllis was supportive of Lauren with the depression she was facing and was instrumental in getting her out of the apartment. Bottem line Phyllis is far fromn perfect but who isn't. There should be consequnces but take into consideration the things Phyllis has done with her life the good as well as the bad. Phyllis had no idea Faith was alive nor was she looking for her but she was looking to nail Adam(I don't even like Adam so not defending him)and when she opened the letter that she "knew" was adressed to her she found something she was not expecting. She had that letter with a match to it ready to burn the evidence that Faith was alive and had it not been for MB(the man who actually went to jail and served his time)the letter would have been burned! Not only was MB her bestie but he was at the time TGVN's lawyer and he cautioned her not to be like them to not burn the letter. So, she didn't. Now, had the letter actually been burned by Phyllis I do believe tht MB would not have kept quiet and the lil baby Faith would still have been tested for her maternity like was done when Phyllis came forward with ashley's letter. She did the right thing even though it could have cost her marriage but she was ready to do the wrong thing had MB not stopped her. This way she had her husband's gratitude. She did n';t care about Sharon's and she did it for Nick because she loved him. IMO, just because someone has married, has a family, and a job that does not excuse them for committing a crime. Heck, just look at the underground hippie's that have been caught after 25, 30, 35, 40 years and some of those women that were involved in bombs on campuses and things had not done anything radical, had families etc. and the governemnt took them off to trial and later jail. I think many got reduced sentences, though!(that is kinda like Gloria's s/l!) |
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yandrfan99 |
Quote lisa diane: ooooh ok that is much better. Thank you for clearing that up for me the way they were talking is he gave up his badge for her calling him a dirty cop and all, I was so upset over that because I love Ronan. Thanks again. He went to offer his friendship to Phyllis and she said but everything I saw can be held against me and to prove he wasn`t going to use anything she said against her he put his badge down. It is a Phyllis fan who started that thread I believe and more has been made out of it than it was. He was only there a few minutes when she left to go see her daughter. |
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