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    If she is so happy, why is she stealing again?

    Started by mdtuttle at 2012/07/14 06:45AM
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    #31   2012/07/14 10:45AM
    Re: If she is so happy, why is she stealing again?
    habbyfan
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    Quote rediculous: most of you know that I lost two children in a drowning accident, it was over 30 years ago, but I still feel that loss and hurt every day and I know I always will. I joined a grief group after a while, and one of the members who had lost her 14 year old daughter, began to steal things, small items at first but more valuable things as time went on. The others in the group including myself had no idea she was doing this until she got caught. Her rational was that because something so precious was taken from her, she was compensating for that by taken others things. This is not as uncommon as some may thing. This lady needed deeper grief counseling than our group could offer and she did get help and is fine today. She just found an outlet for her grief in the wrong way. She can't believe she once did this. I actually represented her at court and she agreed to pay the merchants she had stolen from for most of the merchandise. Most of it she returned as she hadn't even opened the packages etc. Price tags still on everything. Doing that and getting counseling was all that was required of her by the court, because of her circumstances. She remembered taking the items, but said she felt as though she was in a trance, Sharon makes me thing of that lady, who is a very strong individual, but her extreme grief buckled her. After the death of a child marriages break up, alcoholism abounds and it is a very rough road to travel. The stress is over whelmning and it doesn't go away as fast as some people on here thinks it should.Just giving my perception of what could be wrong with Sharon. Who knows what the writers will come up with.


    I too,suffered unbearable loss at 39 years old with five children, I lost my mother in law a woman I had known from the time I was a girl of 18 we were very close 6 months later my husband then 6 months later my mother.

    I was out of control, lot's of men nobody knew, my family never even suspected, finally a friend found out,at first I denied everything but she never let up and finally I got help.

    Thirty years have gone by and I have nightmares,when I wake up I thank God for that very good friend.

    My kids you see grew up and went to universities they have worked and traveled all over the world,I owe it all to a higher power but if I had not had that one good friend my life could have taken a different path.

    Loss can be overwhelming.JMHO

    #32   2012/07/14 11:04AM
    Re: If she is so happy, why is she stealing again?
    rediculous
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    Quote habbyfan:
    Quote rediculous: most of you know that I lost two children in a drowning accident, it was over 30 years ago, but I still feel that loss and hurt every day and I know I always will. I joined a grief group after a while, and one of the members who had lost her 14 year old daughter, began to steal things, small items at first but more valuable things as time went on. The others in the group including myself had no idea she was doing this until she got caught. Her rational was that because something so precious was taken from her, she was compensating for that by taken others things. This is not as uncommon as some may thing. This lady needed deeper grief counseling than our group could offer and she did get help and is fine today. She just found an outlet for her grief in the wrong way. She can't believe she once did this. I actually represented her at court and she agreed to pay the merchants she had stolen from for most of the merchandise. Most of it she returned as she hadn't even opened the packages etc. Price tags still on everything. Doing that and getting counseling was all that was required of her by the court, because of her circumstances. She remembered taking the items, but said she felt as though she was in a trance, Sharon makes me thing of that lady, who is a very strong individual, but her extreme grief buckled her. After the death of a child marriages break up, alcoholism abounds and it is a very rough road to travel. The stress is over whelmning and it doesn't go away as fast as some people on here thinks it should.Just giving my perception of what could be wrong with Sharon. Who knows what the writers will come up with.


    I too,suffered unbearable loss at 39 years old with five children, I lost my mother in law a woman I had known from the time I was a girl of 18 we were very close 6 months later my husband then 6 months later my mother.

    I was out of control, lot's of men nobody knew, my family never even suspected, finally a friend found out,at first I denied everything but she never let up and finally I got help.

    Thirty years have gone by and I have nightmares,when I wake up I thank God for that very good friend.

    My kids you see grew up and went to universities they have worked and traveled all over the world,I owe it all to a higher power but if I had not had that one good friend my life could have taken a different path.

    Loss can be overwhelming.JMHO


    habby I was 39 also. You did have much to deal with, we all handle grief stress in our own individual ways, some are better at it than others, doesn't really make anyone stronger or weaker, it's just such an individual thing. Thank God for your friend, an angel sent to you during your most difficult time.

    #33   2012/07/14 11:21AM
    Re: If she is so happy, why is she stealing again?
    OspreyGirl
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    Quote mdtuttle: I can't help but wonder why Sharon is stealing again if she is as happy as she claims. I think she is feeling the pressure from Adam's impending marriage. She had her chance with him but she pushed him away because she could not handle the fact that he had knew about Patty being in town and didn't turn her in. I don't make wxcuses for the things Adam did in the past. He did horrible things but Sharon had said she forgave him, then she couldn't deal with the Patty stuff. He wanted to make it work with her but she walked away. Kind of like when she and Nick first split up all those years ago. Nick did not want a divorce but Sharon insisted. Then when he moved on with Phyllis Sharon decided she wanted him back. She always wants what she can't have. I say she needs to leave Adam alone and let him be happy with Chelsea and continue to try and be a better person.


    I've washed my hands of Sharon years ago and don't have an ounce of sympathy for her. I don't care if she is about to lose her mind and jump off a bridge wearing a wedding gown, she has made too many bad choices that stamps out any good that she used to have.

    The topper for me is her now sleeping with her kids' grandfather...she is the poster child of what a weak woman who uses her looks to have a man with money coddle her. She has no mind of her own, and is now stealing again? I don't care if she was traumatized in her childhood, she has been so self righteous with preaching to others around her to 'do the right thing' but she can't realize that she needs help until she lands back in jail again?

    Didn't she know the jewelry store has surveillance cameras and will be doing an inventory to notice that the necklace wasn't purchased?

    Does she think Adam is going to drop everything including Chelsea to sit by her jail cell again and 'save her?'

    SO done with Sharon...and couldn't care less about her mental state...she's a fool, sane or not.

    #34   2012/07/14 11:31AM
    Re: If she is so happy, why is she stealing again?
    habbyfan
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    Quote rediculous:
    Quote habbyfan:
    Quote rediculous: most of you know that I lost two children in a drowning accident, it was over 30 years ago, but I still feel that loss and hurt every day and I know I always will. I joined a grief group after a while, and one of the members who had lost her 14 year old daughter, began to steal things, small items at first but more valuable things as time went on. The others in the group including myself had no idea she was doing this until she got caught. Her rational was that because something so precious was taken from her, she was compensating for that by taken others things. This is not as uncommon as some may thing. This lady needed deeper grief counseling than our group could offer and she did get help and is fine today. She just found an outlet for her grief in the wrong way. She can't believe she once did this. I actually represented her at court and she agreed to pay the merchants she had stolen from for most of the merchandise. Most of it she returned as she hadn't even opened the packages etc. Price tags still on everything. Doing that and getting counseling was all that was required of her by the court, because of her circumstances. She remembered taking the items, but said she felt as though she was in a trance, Sharon makes me thing of that lady, who is a very strong individual, but her extreme grief buckled her. After the death of a child marriages break up, alcoholism abounds and it is a very rough road to travel. The stress is over whelmning and it doesn't go away as fast as some people on here thinks it should.Just giving my perception of what could be wrong with Sharon. Who knows what the writers will come up with.


    I too,suffered unbearable loss at 39 years old with five children, I lost my mother in law a woman I had known from the time I was a girl of 18 we were very close 6 months later my husband then 6 months later my mother.

    I was out of control, lot's of men nobody knew, my family never even suspected, finally a friend found out,at first I denied everything but she never let up and finally I got help.

    Thirty years have gone by and I have nightmares,when I wake up I thank God for that very good friend.

    My kids you see grew up and went to universities they have worked and traveled all over the world,I owe it all to a higher power but if I had not had that one good friend my life could have taken a different path.

    Loss can be overwhelming.JMHO


    habby I was 39 also. You did have much to deal with, we all handle grief stress in our own individual ways, some are better at it than others, doesn't really make anyone stronger or weaker, it's just such an individual thing. Thank God for your friend, an angel sent to you during your most difficult time.


    The strange part of it all is the mother of my DIL has asked me numerous times over the past 20 years, what did you do to your kids, they are all so well established and you were all alone, I just tell her I got very lucky,I can't say I did anything she herself didn't do,she always says you must have. I know better.

    I also met a lady who like you lost her teenage daughter when a drunk driver hit the car she was in with three other teen friends another teen died with her in the accident she took to drinking.

    I also met a lady who's daughter was traveling with her husband of two weeks to his university graduation exercises he was in a coma for two years and her daughter was still unable to cope.

    You are so right everyone has a story.

    I came to understand that.

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    #35   2012/07/14 12:13PM
    Re: If she is so happy, why is she stealing again?
    bukopandan
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    Quote habbyfan:
    Quote rediculous:
    Quote habbyfan:
    Quote rediculous: most of you know that I lost two children in a drowning accident, it was over 30 years ago, but I still feel that loss and hurt every day and I know I always will. I joined a grief group after a while, and one of the members who had lost her 14 year old daughter, began to steal things, small items at first but more valuable things as time went on. The others in the group including myself had no idea she was doing this until she got caught. Her rational was that because something so precious was taken from her, she was compensating for that by taken others things. This is not as uncommon as some may thing. This lady needed deeper grief counseling than our group could offer and she did get help and is fine today. She just found an outlet for her grief in the wrong way. She can't believe she once did this. I actually represented her at court and she agreed to pay the merchants she had stolen from for most of the merchandise. Most of it she returned as she hadn't even opened the packages etc. Price tags still on everything. Doing that and getting counseling was all that was required of her by the court, because of her circumstances. She remembered taking the items, but said she felt as though she was in a trance, Sharon makes me thing of that lady, who is a very strong individual, but her extreme grief buckled her. After the death of a child marriages break up, alcoholism abounds and it is a very rough road to travel. The stress is over whelmning and it doesn't go away as fast as some people on here thinks it should.Just giving my perception of what could be wrong with Sharon. Who knows what the writers will come up with.


    I too,suffered unbearable loss at 39 years old with five children, I lost my mother in law a woman I had known from the time I was a girl of 18 we were very close 6 months later my husband then 6 months later my mother.

    I was out of control, lot's of men nobody knew, my family never even suspected, finally a friend found out,at first I denied everything but she never let up and finally I got help.

    Thirty years have gone by and I have nightmares,when I wake up I thank God for that very good friend.

    My kids you see grew up and went to universities they have worked and traveled all over the world,I owe it all to a higher power but if I had not had that one good friend my life could have taken a different path.

    Loss can be overwhelming.JMHO


    habby I was 39 also. You did have much to deal with, we all handle grief stress in our own individual ways, some are better at it than others, doesn't really make anyone stronger or weaker, it's just such an individual thing. Thank God for your friend, an angel sent to you during your most difficult time.


    The strange part of it all is the mother of my DIL has asked me numerous times over the past 20 years, what did you do to your kids, they are all so well established and you were all alone, I just tell her I got very lucky,I can't say I did anything she herself didn't do,she always says you must have. I know better.

    I also met a lady who like you lost her teenage daughter when a drunk driver hit the car she was in with three other teen friends another teen died with her in the accident she took to drinking.

    I also met a lady who's daughter was traveling with her husband of two weeks to his university graduation exercises he was in a coma for two years and her daughter was still unable to cope.

    You are so right everyone has a story.

    I came to understand that.


    thanks to you and red for sharing things with us.

    sometimes what we and the characters do is about coping, about finding ways to try alleviating the pain and other burdens we live with.

    #36   2012/07/14 12:21PM
    Re: If she is so happy, why is she stealing again?
    habbyfan
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    Quote countryMomof4: I agree that she brings a lot of it on herself. However that could be traced back to the initial event or the illness that has traumatized her.

    For example: some women who are molested as children grow up with very poor or non existent self-esteem and unconsciously chose destructive habits or men because they believe they don't deserve better.


    Absolutely, she dosen't need to steal and from other episodes we have seen she does not know she has stolen until she finds the items she has hidden.

    In the case of the necklace she stole recently she told Victor it was new when he remarked on it.It was a strange scene.

    #37   2012/07/14 12:25PM
    Re: If she is so happy, why is she stealing again?
    mdtuttle
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    Quote rediculous: most of you know that I lost two children in a drowning accident, it was over 30 years ago, but I still feel that loss and hurt every day and I know I always will. I joined a grief group after a while, and one of the members who had lost her 14 year old daughter, began to steal things, small items at first but more valuable things as time went on. The others in the group including myself had no idea she was doing this until she got caught. Her rational was that because something so precious was taken from her, she was compensating for that by taken others things. This is not as uncommon as some may thing. This lady needed deeper grief counseling than our group could offer and she did get help and is fine today. She just found an outlet for her grief in the wrong way. She can't believe she once did this. I actually represented her at court and she agreed to pay the merchants she had stolen from for most of the merchandise. Most of it she returned as she hadn't even opened the packages etc. Price tags still on everything. Doing that and getting counseling was all that was required of her by the court, because of her circumstances. She remembered taking the items, but said she felt as though she was in a trance, Sharon makes me thing of that lady, who is a very strong individual, but her extreme grief buckled her. After the death of a child marriages break up, alcoholism abounds and it is a very rough road to travel. The stress is over whelmning and it doesn't go away as fast as some people on here thinks it should.Just giving my perception of what could be wrong with Sharon. Who knows what the writers will come up with.


    I am so sorry for your loss, and you are absolutley right. Greif can make people do things they never normally would

    #38   2012/07/14 12:27PM
    Re: If she is so happy, why is she stealing again?
    mdtuttle
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    Quote Lucy3:
    Quote mdtuttle:
    Quote -Sinny6-: Well obviously Phyllis wasn't thinking straight when she hit christine with her car yet she sure is never given the same excuses poor Sharon is.. Sharon knows she is stealing.. she knows she is making poor choices but she chooses to do nothing.


    Kind of comparinf apples and oranges. Phyllis made a choice to drive a rental car into Paul and Christine. Whether she meant to just scare them or not. I don't remember why Phyllis had rented the car. If she had rented it because she was having trouble with her own car and just happened to see Christine and it was a crime of conveniance or if she rented the car with the intention of hunting Christine down and running her over. The answer to that would make a big diffrence to me as to what her punishment should be.

    Sharon on the other hand has engaged in destructive behavior for quite some time now and it always seems to center around when she wants someone that she threw away.
    It was mentioned the other day that no repair charges were on the credit card statement. I can't remember who brought up the same idea you just mentioned but that was the answer.


    I know what you are saying. Since there were no charges for repair to a vehicle I would like them to address why Phyllis rented a car in the first place.

    #39   2012/07/14 12:29PM
    Re: If she is so happy, why is she stealing again?
    mdtuttle
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    Quote habbyfan:
    Quote rediculous: most of you know that I lost two children in a drowning accident, it was over 30 years ago, but I still feel that loss and hurt every day and I know I always will. I joined a grief group after a while, and one of the members who had lost her 14 year old daughter, began to steal things, small items at first but more valuable things as time went on. The others in the group including myself had no idea she was doing this until she got caught. Her rational was that because something so precious was taken from her, she was compensating for that by taken others things. This is not as uncommon as some may thing. This lady needed deeper grief counseling than our group could offer and she did get help and is fine today. She just found an outlet for her grief in the wrong way. She can't believe she once did this. I actually represented her at court and she agreed to pay the merchants she had stolen from for most of the merchandise. Most of it she returned as she hadn't even opened the packages etc. Price tags still on everything. Doing that and getting counseling was all that was required of her by the court, because of her circumstances. She remembered taking the items, but said she felt as though she was in a trance, Sharon makes me thing of that lady, who is a very strong individual, but her extreme grief buckled her. After the death of a child marriages break up, alcoholism abounds and it is a very rough road to travel. The stress is over whelmning and it doesn't go away as fast as some people on here thinks it should.Just giving my perception of what could be wrong with Sharon. Who knows what the writers will come up with.


    I too,suffered unbearable loss at 39 years old with five children, I lost my mother in law a woman I had known from the time I was a girl of 18 we were very close 6 months later my husband then 6 months later my mother.

    I was out of control, lot's of men nobody knew, my family never even suspected, finally a friend found out,at first I denied everything but she never let up and finally I got help.

    Thirty years have gone by and I have nightmares,when I wake up I thank God for that very good friend.

    My kids you see grew up and went to universities they have worked and traveled all over the world,I owe it all to a higher power but if I had not had that one good friend my life could have taken a different path.

    Loss can be overwhelming.JMHO


    I;m sorry for what you went through,but I am glad you had a good friend that helped you through it.

    #40   2012/07/14 12:33PM
    Re: If she is so happy, why is she stealing again?
    mdtuttle
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    Quote OspreyGirl:
    Quote mdtuttle: I can't help but wonder why Sharon is stealing again if she is as happy as she claims. I think she is feeling the pressure from Adam's impending marriage. She had her chance with him but she pushed him away because she could not handle the fact that he had knew about Patty being in town and didn't turn her in. I don't make wxcuses for the things Adam did in the past. He did horrible things but Sharon had said she forgave him, then she couldn't deal with the Patty stuff. He wanted to make it work with her but she walked away. Kind of like when she and Nick first split up all those years ago. Nick did not want a divorce but Sharon insisted. Then when he moved on with Phyllis Sharon decided she wanted him back. She always wants what she can't have. I say she needs to leave Adam alone and let him be happy with Chelsea and continue to try and be a better person.


    I've washed my hands of Sharon years ago and don't have an ounce of sympathy for her. I don't care if she is about to lose her mind and jump off a bridge wearing a wedding gown, she has made too many bad choices that stamps out any good that she used to have.

    The topper for me is her now sleeping with her kids' grandfather...she is the poster child of what a weak woman who uses her looks to have a man with money coddle her. She has no mind of her own, and is now stealing again? I don't care if she was traumatized in her childhood, she has been so self righteous with preaching to others around her to 'do the right thing' but she can't realize that she needs help until she lands back in jail again?

    Didn't she know the jewelry store has surveillance cameras and will be doing an inventory to notice that the necklace wasn't purchased?

    Does she think Adam is going to drop everything including Chelsea to sit by her jail cell again and 'save her?'

    SO done with Sharon...and couldn't care less about her mental state...she's a fool, sane or not.


    I can't disagree with you, in fact I feel pretty much the same way. I used to like the charecter but she has done nother redeeming for as long as I can remember. I really do wish she would get it together and get back on track. But then again if everyone one the show were normal and well adjusted there would not be anything entertaining to watch.

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