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    Spoiler Talk: Victoria,ARE YOU FRIGGING KIDDING??

    Started by chillepepper at 2012/07/03 05:38PM
    Latest post: 2012/07/04 07:02PM, Views: 4017, Replies: 98
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    #21   2012/07/03 07:18PM
    Re: Victoria,ARE YOU FRIGGING KIDDING??
    zoe187
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    Quote InCanada: [...]

    I have no clue. This newbie just came into town and now major characters have been used to prop her. Not sure what's happening here. Who's next in the plan to make her all sweet and angelic? They have gotten Vikki, Billy and Sharon so far! SMH.


    It as always brake my heart to see Adam the town pariah, I never understood why he was in the first place. As an Adam's fan I wanted a friend for my boy so bad, and I got one all right. lol

    And Vicky I wish she would concentrate on her happiness for a change. And try to give Adam a chance, why not.

    And Chelsea I wish she would ride off into the sunset and be happy there.

    #22   2012/07/03 07:19PM
    Re: Victoria,ARE YOU FRIGGING KIDDING??
    jcren
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    Quote Rilynne:
    Quote chillepepper: Yes I get that Victoria is still upset about how John was conceived,Chelsea did rape Billy,but ask yourself this question, why didn't Billy charge her with rape before the baby was born, even before he found out she was preggers ,before he found out he was the daddy? Know why because Victoria wanted a baby no matter what. She never goes to see Reed, at least it's never mentioned that she is away to see him. Not that she doesn't deserve to have another child . Anyway how much does she even see or have any connection to Adam,did she forget Adam saved Chelsea from the lake and that if not for Adam she might not even have little Johnny. JMO


    Chelsea did not rape Billy. Remember, she set him up (per Victor's request) by spiking his drink but he made love to her because he kept seeing Victoria in her. Not it is any better but if you remember him telling Victoria the story of how he and Chelsea met and the night it happened he remembered dancing and then kissing Chelsea but he kept seeing Victoria because he was so messed up.


    Chelsea drugged Billy. A drugged and drunk Billy dances with Chelsea and thinks she is Victoria. She HEARD him call her Victoria. Chelsea was suppose to just take pictures of Billy and yet she somehow got him into bed. She wakes up. Billy is still knocked out from the drugs. She panics and got her friends to plant drugs on him and then called the dirty cops that threw him in prison for weeks.

    If she was a man and did those things to a woman (having sex with her after spiking her drink).... what would you call it? Yeah. I thought so.

    #23   2012/07/03 07:22PM
    Re: Victoria,ARE YOU FRIGGING KIDDING??
    InCanada
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    Quote jcren:
    Quote Rilynne:
    Quote chillepepper: Yes I get that Victoria is still upset about how John was conceived,Chelsea did rape Billy,but ask yourself this question, why didn't Billy charge her with rape before the baby was born, even before he found out she was preggers ,before he found out he was the daddy? Know why because Victoria wanted a baby no matter what. She never goes to see Reed, at least it's never mentioned that she is away to see him. Not that she doesn't deserve to have another child . Anyway how much does she even see or have any connection to Adam,did she forget Adam saved Chelsea from the lake and that if not for Adam she might not even have little Johnny. JMO


    Chelsea did not rape Billy. Remember, she set him up (per Victor's request) by spiking his drink but he made love to her because he kept seeing Victoria in her. Not it is any better but if you remember him telling Victoria the story of how he and Chelsea met and the night it happened he remembered dancing and then kissing Chelsea but he kept seeing Victoria because he was so messed up.


    Chelsea drugged Billy. A drugged and drunk Billy dances with Chelsea and thinks she is Victoria. She HEARD him call her Victoria. Chelsea was suppose to just take pictures of Billy and yet she somehow got him into bed. She wakes up. Billy is still knocked out from the drugs. She panics and got her friends to plant drugs on him and then called the dirty cops that threw him in prison for weeks.

    If she was a man and did those things to a woman (having sex with her after spiking her drink).... what would you call it? Yeah. I thought so.


    I feel since he was so out of it, for someone to then have sex with him, its a rape. I agree with you.

    #24   2012/07/03 07:23PM
    Re: Victoria,ARE YOU FRIGGING KIDDING??
    clicquot1
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    Quote jcren:
    Quote Rilynne:
    Quote chillepepper: Yes I get that Victoria is still upset about how John was conceived,Chelsea did rape Billy,but ask yourself this question, why didn't Billy charge her with rape before the baby was born, even before he found out she was preggers ,before he found out he was the daddy? Know why because Victoria wanted a baby no matter what. She never goes to see Reed, at least it's never mentioned that she is away to see him. Not that she doesn't deserve to have another child . Anyway how much does she even see or have any connection to Adam,did she forget Adam saved Chelsea from the lake and that if not for Adam she might not even have little Johnny. JMO


    Chelsea did not rape Billy. Remember, she set him up (per Victor's request) by spiking his drink but he made love to her because he kept seeing Victoria in her. Not it is any better but if you remember him telling Victoria the story of how he and Chelsea met and the night it happened he remembered dancing and then kissing Chelsea but he kept seeing Victoria because he was so messed up.


    Chelsea drugged Billy. A drugged and drunk Billy dances with Chelsea and thinks she is Victoria. She HEARD him call her Victoria. Chelsea was suppose to just take pictures of Billy and yet she somehow got him into bed. She wakes up. Billy is still knocked out from the drugs. She panics and got her friends to plant drugs on him and then called the dirty cops that threw him in prison for weeks.

    If she was a man and did those things to a woman (having sex with her after spiking her drink).... what would you call it? Yeah. I thought so.





    Yeppers, and in a convo with Victor he reminded her that she was ONLY to get him in a compromising position(in other words naked and NOT to have sex with him!)


    Chelsea did all that other stuff on her own to get $$$$$$$$$$$$!

    #25   2012/07/03 07:27PM
    Re: Victoria,ARE YOU FRIGGING KIDDING??
    Jackie10
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    Quote janesBydiction:
    Quote Jackie10: Dont forget Chelsea raped Billy and is the natural mother of the baby. Why should she want her husbands rapist as a sister in law?


    I don't think anyone forgot as this is always brought up when people start to favour Chelsea. Victoria doesn't care about Adam. This is not about her looking out for her baby bro. She's a self absorbed, whiny, good for nothing brat plain and simple.

    No one expects her to be elated by the news, but that little mini temper tantrum she threw showed that she has the maturity of a 15 yo. She could have said nothing and walked away (which would have been perfectly fine) and that would have been 100x better than how she behaved.


    I didnt see any one bring up Adam he has nothing to do with Chelsea raping Billy and nothing to do with baby John that is all Billy and Chelsea.

    Lets see when Daisy raped Daniel it was oh poor Daniel. Daisy is such a loser and creep she should be in prison. Poor Lucy a rapist for a mother.

    When Chelsea admitted she raped Billy it was all Billy's fault hes a loser.

    Double standards as everyone says about Phyllis and Sharon.

    #26   2012/07/03 07:40PM
    Re: Victoria,ARE YOU FRIGGING KIDDING??
    isabellazz
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    Quote jcren: Johnny is a real Newman. He was adopted by Victoria. She is his mother. Therefore he is a Newman.

    Johnny is as much as a Newman as Cassie was. And I dare anyone claim she was not a Newman. She was Nick's daughter.

    Blood isn't everything.





    The bottom line is that Johnny is not Victoria's son and not a Newman. In blood or spirit.

    He's nothing like Cassie because hers was a touching adoption story where Nick slowly fell in love with Sharon's little girl and grew to accept her as his own. Sharon also had Cassie when she was 15 and found her only after Cassie's adoptive parents died.

    Johnny's story is stupid and hateful. That's why people feel no emotion or sentiment about this joke "adoption". Nobody finds it warm or heartfelt like Cassie's story.

    You have a grown man who abandons his cancer-stricken daughter to go on a drinking and gambling binge and has sexual relations with some strange woman he meets in a bar. Then she shows up pregnant with his baby demanding money, and he moves her in with his wife. Billy's mistress insults his wife for a few months, agrees to let her adopt their cheat baby for no reason, and then marries her brother? WTF?

    This is no Cassie story! The comparison is ridiculous.

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    #27   2012/07/03 07:57PM
    Re: Victoria,ARE YOU FRIGGING KIDDING??
    Jackie10
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    Quote jcren:
    Quote Rilynne:
    Quote chillepepper: Yes I get that Victoria is still upset about how John was conceived,Chelsea did rape Billy,but ask yourself this question, why didn't Billy charge her with rape before the baby was born, even before he found out she was preggers ,before he found out he was the daddy? Know why because Victoria wanted a baby no matter what. She never goes to see Reed, at least it's never mentioned that she is away to see him. Not that she doesn't deserve to have another child . Anyway how much does she even see or have any connection to Adam,did she forget Adam saved Chelsea from the lake and that if not for Adam she might not even have little Johnny. JMO


    Chelsea did not rape Billy. Remember, she set him up (per Victor's request) by spiking his drink but he made love to her because he kept seeing Victoria in her. Not it is any better but if you remember him telling Victoria the story of how he and Chelsea met and the night it happened he remembered dancing and then kissing Chelsea but he kept seeing Victoria because he was so messed up.


    Chelsea drugged Billy. A drugged and drunk Billy dances with Chelsea and thinks she is Victoria. She HEARD him call her Victoria. Chelsea was suppose to just take pictures of Billy and yet she somehow got him into bed. She wakes up. Billy is still knocked out from the drugs. She panics and got her friends to plant drugs on him and then called the dirty cops that threw him in prison for weeks.

    If she was a man and did those things to a woman (having sex with her after spiking her drink).... what would you call it? Yeah. I thought so.


    I do recall Chelsae telling him just that she took advantage of him rape is rape.

    #28   2012/07/03 07:57PM
    Re: Victoria,ARE YOU FRIGGING KIDDING??
    jcren
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    Quote isabellazz:
    Quote jcren: Johnny is a real Newman. He was adopted by Victoria. She is his mother. Therefore he is a Newman.

    Johnny is as much as a Newman as Cassie was. And I dare anyone claim she was not a Newman. She was Nick's daughter.

    Blood isn't everything.





    The bottom line is that Johnny is not Victoria's son and not a Newman. In blood or spirit.

    He's nothing like Cassie because hers was a touching adoption story where Nick slowly fell in love with Sharon's little girl and grew to accept her as his own. Sharon also had Cassie when she was 15 and found her only after Cassie's adoptive parents died.

    Johnny's story is stupid and hateful. That's why people feel no emotion or sentiment about this joke "adoption". Nobody finds it warm or heartfelt like Cassie's story.

    You have a grown man who abandons his cancer-stricken daughter to go on a drinking and gambling binge and has sexual relations with some strange woman he meets in a bar. Then she shows up pregnant with his baby demanding money, and he moves her in with his wife. Billy's mistress insults his wife for a few months, agrees to let her adopt their cheat baby for no reason, and then marries her brother? WTF?

    This is no Cassie story! The comparison is ridiculous.


    What are you talking about? That doesn't even make sense. "In blood or spirit" What?!

    The bottom line is Victoria LOVES that little boy. He is very much 100% her son. You might not like it, but tough. It is what it is.

    Also Cassie was abandoned by her adoptive mother Alice and was left to be cared for by her adoptive elderly grandmother Millie. Grace (before they recast her and made her slutty) tracked her down and brought her to GC for Sharon. Later on Alice found Cassie and tried to fight Sharon and Nick for custody of her. She ultimately did the right thing and let Cassie be with her family. Something I hope Chelsea does.

    And if comes to it I have no doubt that Victoria would fight with everything she had for Johnny as she did for Lucy.

    Chelsea drugged and raped Billy. He didn't cheat on Victoria. He is not a "cheat" baby, but sadly he, like Lucy, is a "rape" baby.

    #29   2012/07/03 08:06PM
    Re: Victoria,ARE YOU FRIGGING KIDDING??
    lfga
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    i need to ask a question about this s/l,because i realy dont know...i have thought about this from the begining....but cam a man being so druged up realy preform...that's the only way i can ask..but if a man is that drunk on drugs[was it a micky]how can they do anything
    i dont see how...

    i can understand why victoria.wouldnt like CHELSEA...she forgave billy,so why not Chelsea..i cant think of anything else she has done...she didnt smoke,use drugs,or drink alcohol while she was pregnant...she is bettering her life,she works,Adam is a better person..so why doesnt she like Adam and Chelsea....getting married..

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    #30   2012/07/03 08:07PM
    Re: Victoria,ARE YOU FRIGGING KIDDING??
    isabellazz
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    Victoria decided not to fight for Lucy since all the custody battles would only hurt the child. Besides Billy bought that baby in a backyard shed and deep down Victoria knew it was wrong. She had the right idea kicking Billy to the curb. He is nothing but a vile creep.

    Also, Daisy turned out to be a wonderful mother! She loved Lucy and took excellent care of her before she was tragically killed.

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