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Quote Ari1: So I guess Chelsea turns to Victor to try and get Conner back. That's pretty much what I figured. I hope Chelsea doesn't let him manipulate her and get his foot in the door bc he helped her. Now that his other children have disowned him he'll probably become more obsessed with getting his hands on Conner. Sigh.
I read that Victor told Billy that Adam was sick and he kept the secret to protect Conner from Adam. Is that true? I can't believe he thinks Adam actually hit Delia and left her to die. What an evil person Victor is. That reasoning makes zero sense bc if he really thought Adam was dangerous, he'd want him to go to jail. The whole blackmail story never really made much sense bc the easiest way for Victor to get his hands on Conner was to put Adam in prison.
Hearing Jack tell Chelsea that he loved Adam, too, was very touching. That's why I don't want Chelsea ever turning to Victor bc he enjoyed crushing Adam under his thumb. Chelsea would never want him in Connor's life. Never. It's just sickening if the writers go there. From the spoilers saying Chelsea disregards Adam's final wishes, I guess that's where we are headed. Double sigh.
Victor will throw anyone under the bus, including his own son, to deflect from his own criminality and moral shortcomings. He has gone so far around the bend, I will never give a darn about him again.
I know! Victor is the true sociopath. He never feels remorse for anything. He never regrets his mistakes or even thinks he did anything wrong. Smh. There is nothing to like about this character. Nothing. All he does is blame others for his faults. No self reflection. He's just a bully and a monster. Why he is not shunned by everyone in GC is beyond me.
I have been reading all the posts and have finally caught up. I agree with the both of you and what you have said on everything and of course that includes what has been said about Victor. It seems like his character is getting worse by the day and I have always thought of him as a bully, but lately true sociopath is a much better description.
I am still not watching, but like to read this thread because I feel this thread is where I am going to find the best posts because we are all Chadam or ChadaMM fans. I still am very discouraged by everything that has happened to MM and still believe in his innocence. Ari1
I so agree the blackmail story was another case imo of totally bad writing. Victor wanted access to Connor and the best way to get that was to have Adam in jail. So what was the purpose or advantage to the blackmail? Instead he has been found out and everyone hates him including his own family. It seems that he doesn't care what anyone thinks.
Earlier in this thread you asked if anyone thought that it was a slap in the face to MM fans to have Summer and Sharon together talking about Adam. I definitely feel that way because why Summer when they have not shared many scenes together at all. I know there were some when Summer was in the accident that caused Chelsea's miscarriage, but I don't remember much more then those. On top of that to have her talk about Adam with Sharon seemed way off and I would have thought if she talked with anyone about it why not the man who is supposedly her father (whether true or not) - Jack - as well as Jack being the uncle to Delia. If not Jack then at least Nick.
I'm not trying to be a downer for those that are still enjoying the show, but everything I read tells me that the writing continues to be horrible on so many levels.
I have to admit that as a MM fan even though he is no longer there I still feel when Adam's name is mentioned I still associate MM with Adam. Until he is re-casted how is anyone suppose to feel any different. That brings me to another thought. Why does the re-cast have to take so long? I guess I don't trust JFP at all and feel that even though MM has been fired he is still very much a part of the show. Isn't that taken advantage of MM? Call me crazy, but it's how I feel. Since I believe in innocent unless proven guilty, and nothing has ever been proven I will always believe in his innocence. What makes me both mad and sad is that I feel that MM who imo is a wonderful actor right now is without a job. These were alleged charges put out there by TMZ which is not even considered newsworthy imo, and they have said all kinds of things that are not true. All the rest just ran with the original story. We then had some of the cast come out and say what they did to further cast doubt for some people. KSJ is still out there on Facebook ranting about I don't know what. I use to like Neil, but I no longer can look at him as I once did. I also don't think the writers have given him anything at all as far as a good s/l. Again earlier in this thread both Laduree
and Home Sick Cajun
brought Neil KSJ up and I totally agreed with what they said.
The only good s/l imo still revolves around Chelsea and again Adam. I want Chelsea to be as far away from Chloe and Victor as possible. Because of Chloe kidnapping Connor it is obvious that Victor will be helping her. If that is all he is used for and does help getting Connor back that is fine, but then I don't want her any where near either of them. I wonder how Chloe will be treated by everyone after she kidnaps Connor? Those are criminal charges, and I understand that she is obviously in dire need of help, but it seems like everyone, but Adam gets treated differently in GC. Yes, Adam has done bad things in the past, but so has most of his accusers. cdhg
I just want to say how much I enjoy your recaps as well as your insight as to why different things are happening on the screen. I am reminded of the proverb of "When life gives you lemons, make lemonade". You have a way of calming me down when I read something that I believe to be utterly ridiculous or unnecessary and therefore get angry when reading it, but then I read your take on certain things and I start to feel somewhat better which is saying a lot when it comes to this show.
I was going to add some things regarding Dylan and JFP and why I don't trust her, but I will save it for another time.
Again, thank you to all the Chadam posters. I appreciate each and every one of you and what you have to say.
The main point I wanted to make about Summer having scenes with Sharon or anyone else talking about Adam is that the rumors are HK is the one who got MM fired. Whether the rumors are true are not is beside the point. Why would the writers have Summer of all people talk about Adam? They weren't close or shared many scenes together. So I was thinking that the writers did it on purpose to taunt MM and his supporters. When they have Summer say she's been reading about Adam online and doesn't know what to think, is that supposed to be a joke? My opinion is that it's all just tasteless and tptb are just trying to rub it in to MM and his fans' face. Apparently I'm not the only one who thinks this bc the writers at soap confidential pretty much made the same point on twitter, just not directly.