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    #29451   2014/02/13 04:55PM
    Re: Chadam Fans (No Bash)
    3WishGenie
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    Poor Chelsea. She will have a meltdown when she can't find her son

    #29452   2014/02/13 06:08PM
    Re: Chadam Fans (No Bash)
    Ari1
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    Quote Jacee Wojo:
    Quote Ari1:
    Quote Laduree:
    Quote Ari1: So I guess Chelsea turns to Victor to try and get Conner back. That's pretty much what I figured. I hope Chelsea doesn't let him manipulate her and get his foot in the door bc he helped her. Now that his other children have disowned him he'll probably become more obsessed with getting his hands on Conner. Sigh.

    I read that Victor told Billy that Adam was sick and he kept the secret to protect Conner from Adam. Is that true? I can't believe he thinks Adam actually hit Delia and left her to die. What an evil person Victor is. That reasoning makes zero sense bc if he really thought Adam was dangerous, he'd want him to go to jail. The whole blackmail story never really made much sense bc the easiest way for Victor to get his hands on Conner was to put Adam in prison.

    Hearing Jack tell Chelsea that he loved Adam, too, was very touching. That's why I don't want Chelsea ever turning to Victor bc he enjoyed crushing Adam under his thumb. Chelsea would never want him in Connor's life. Never. It's just sickening if the writers go there. From the spoilers saying Chelsea disregards Adam's final wishes, I guess that's where we are headed. Double sigh.


    Victor will throw anyone under the bus, including his own son, to deflect from his own criminality and moral shortcomings. He has gone so far around the bend, I will never give a darn about him again.


    I know! Victor is the true sociopath. He never feels remorse for anything. He never regrets his mistakes or even thinks he did anything wrong. Smh. There is nothing to like about this character. Nothing. All he does is blame others for his faults. No self reflection. He's just a bully and a monster. Why he is not shunned by everyone in GC is beyond me.


    I have been reading all the posts and have finally caught up. I agree with the both of you and what you have said on everything and of course that includes what has been said about Victor. It seems like his character is getting worse by the day and I have always thought of him as a bully, but lately true sociopath is a much better description.

    I am still not watching, but like to read this thread because I feel this thread is where I am going to find the best posts because we are all Chadam or ChadaMM fans. I still am very discouraged by everything that has happened to MM and still believe in his innocence.

    Ari1 I so agree the blackmail story was another case imo of totally bad writing. Victor wanted access to Connor and the best way to get that was to have Adam in jail. So what was the purpose or advantage to the blackmail? Instead he has been found out and everyone hates him including his own family. It seems that he doesn't care what anyone thinks.

    Earlier in this thread you asked if anyone thought that it was a slap in the face to MM fans to have Summer and Sharon together talking about Adam. I definitely feel that way because why Summer when they have not shared many scenes together at all. I know there were some when Summer was in the accident that caused Chelsea's miscarriage, but I don't remember much more then those. On top of that to have her talk about Adam with Sharon seemed way off and I would have thought if she talked with anyone about it why not the man who is supposedly her father (whether true or not) - Jack - as well as Jack being the uncle to Delia. If not Jack then at least Nick.

    I'm not trying to be a downer for those that are still enjoying the show, but everything I read tells me that the writing continues to be horrible on so many levels.

    I have to admit that as a MM fan even though he is no longer there I still feel when Adam's name is mentioned I still associate MM with Adam. Until he is re-casted how is anyone suppose to feel any different. That brings me to another thought. Why does the re-cast have to take so long? I guess I don't trust JFP at all and feel that even though MM has been fired he is still very much a part of the show. Isn't that taken advantage of MM? Call me crazy, but it's how I feel. Since I believe in innocent unless proven guilty, and nothing has ever been proven I will always believe in his innocence. What makes me both mad and sad is that I feel that MM who imo is a wonderful actor right now is without a job. These were alleged charges put out there by TMZ which is not even considered newsworthy imo, and they have said all kinds of things that are not true. All the rest just ran with the original story. We then had some of the cast come out and say what they did to further cast doubt for some people. KSJ is still out there on Facebook ranting about I don't know what. I use to like Neil, but I no longer can look at him as I once did. I also don't think the writers have given him anything at all as far as a good s/l. Again earlier in this thread both Laduree and Home Sick Cajun brought Neil KSJ up and I totally agreed with what they said.

    The only good s/l imo still revolves around Chelsea and again Adam. I want Chelsea to be as far away from Chloe and Victor as possible. Because of Chloe kidnapping Connor it is obvious that Victor will be helping her. If that is all he is used for and does help getting Connor back that is fine, but then I don't want her any where near either of them. I wonder how Chloe will be treated by everyone after she kidnaps Connor? Those are criminal charges, and I understand that she is obviously in dire need of help, but it seems like everyone, but Adam gets treated differently in GC. Yes, Adam has done bad things in the past, but so has most of his accusers.

    cdhg I just want to say how much I enjoy your recaps as well as your insight as to why different things are happening on the screen. I am reminded of the proverb of "When life gives you lemons, make lemonade". You have a way of calming me down when I read something that I believe to be utterly ridiculous or unnecessary and therefore get angry when reading it, but then I read your take on certain things and I start to feel somewhat better which is saying a lot when it comes to this show.

    I was going to add some things regarding Dylan and JFP and why I don't trust her, but I will save it for another time.

    Again, thank you to all the Chadam posters. I appreciate each and every one of you and what you have to say.


    The main point I wanted to make about Summer having scenes with Sharon or anyone else talking about Adam is that the rumors are HK is the one who got MM fired. Whether the rumors are true are not is beside the point. Why would the writers have Summer of all people talk about Adam? They weren't close or shared many scenes together. So I was thinking that the writers did it on purpose to taunt MM and his supporters. When they have Summer say she's been reading about Adam online and doesn't know what to think, is that supposed to be a joke? My opinion is that it's all just tasteless and tptb are just trying to rub it in to MM and his fans' face. Apparently I'm not the only one who thinks this bc the writers at soap confidential pretty much made the same point on twitter, just not directly.

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    #29453   2014/02/13 06:24PM
    Re: Chadam Fans (No Bash)
    Laduree
    image

    Quote Ari1:
    Quote Jacee Wojo:
    Quote Ari1:
    Quote Laduree:
    Quote Ari1: So I guess Chelsea turns to Victor to try and get Conner back. That's pretty much what I figured. I hope Chelsea doesn't let him manipulate her and get his foot in the door bc he helped her. Now that his other children have disowned him he'll probably become more obsessed with getting his hands on Conner. Sigh.

    I read that Victor told Billy that Adam was sick and he kept the secret to protect Conner from Adam. Is that true? I can't believe he thinks Adam actually hit Delia and left her to die. What an evil person Victor is. That reasoning makes zero sense bc if he really thought Adam was dangerous, he'd want him to go to jail. The whole blackmail story never really made much sense bc the easiest way for Victor to get his hands on Conner was to put Adam in prison.

    Hearing Jack tell Chelsea that he loved Adam, too, was very touching. That's why I don't want Chelsea ever turning to Victor bc he enjoyed crushing Adam under his thumb. Chelsea would never want him in Connor's life. Never. It's just sickening if the writers go there. From the spoilers saying Chelsea disregards Adam's final wishes, I guess that's where we are headed. Double sigh.


    Victor will throw anyone under the bus, including his own son, to deflect from his own criminality and moral shortcomings. He has gone so far around the bend, I will never give a darn about him again.


    I know! Victor is the true sociopath. He never feels remorse for anything. He never regrets his mistakes or even thinks he did anything wrong. Smh. There is nothing to like about this character. Nothing. All he does is blame others for his faults. No self reflection. He's just a bully and a monster. Why he is not shunned by everyone in GC is beyond me.


    I have been reading all the posts and have finally caught up. I agree with the both of you and what you have said on everything and of course that includes what has been said about Victor. It seems like his character is getting worse by the day and I have always thought of him as a bully, but lately true sociopath is a much better description.

    I am still not watching, but like to read this thread because I feel this thread is where I am going to find the best posts because we are all Chadam or ChadaMM fans. I still am very discouraged by everything that has happened to MM and still believe in his innocence.

    Ari1 I so agree the blackmail story was another case imo of totally bad writing. Victor wanted access to Connor and the best way to get that was to have Adam in jail. So what was the purpose or advantage to the blackmail? Instead he has been found out and everyone hates him including his own family. It seems that he doesn't care what anyone thinks.

    Earlier in this thread you asked if anyone thought that it was a slap in the face to MM fans to have Summer and Sharon together talking about Adam. I definitely feel that way because why Summer when they have not shared many scenes together at all. I know there were some when Summer was in the accident that caused Chelsea's miscarriage, but I don't remember much more then those. On top of that to have her talk about Adam with Sharon seemed way off and I would have thought if she talked with anyone about it why not the man who is supposedly her father (whether true or not) - Jack - as well as Jack being the uncle to Delia. If not Jack then at least Nick.

    I'm not trying to be a downer for those that are still enjoying the show, but everything I read tells me that the writing continues to be horrible on so many levels.

    I have to admit that as a MM fan even though he is no longer there I still feel when Adam's name is mentioned I still associate MM with Adam. Until he is re-casted how is anyone suppose to feel any different. That brings me to another thought. Why does the re-cast have to take so long? I guess I don't trust JFP at all and feel that even though MM has been fired he is still very much a part of the show. Isn't that taken advantage of MM? Call me crazy, but it's how I feel. Since I believe in innocent unless proven guilty, and nothing has ever been proven I will always believe in his innocence. What makes me both mad and sad is that I feel that MM who imo is a wonderful actor right now is without a job. These were alleged charges put out there by TMZ which is not even considered newsworthy imo, and they have said all kinds of things that are not true. All the rest just ran with the original story. We then had some of the cast come out and say what they did to further cast doubt for some people. KSJ is still out there on Facebook ranting about I don't know what. I use to like Neil, but I no longer can look at him as I once did. I also don't think the writers have given him anything at all as far as a good s/l. Again earlier in this thread both Laduree and Home Sick Cajun brought Neil KSJ up and I totally agreed with what they said.

    The only good s/l imo still revolves around Chelsea and again Adam. I want Chelsea to be as far away from Chloe and Victor as possible. Because of Chloe kidnapping Connor it is obvious that Victor will be helping her. If that is all he is used for and does help getting Connor back that is fine, but then I don't want her any where near either of them. I wonder how Chloe will be treated by everyone after she kidnaps Connor? Those are criminal charges, and I understand that she is obviously in dire need of help, but it seems like everyone, but Adam gets treated differently in GC. Yes, Adam has done bad things in the past, but so has most of his accusers.

    cdhg I just want to say how much I enjoy your recaps as well as your insight as to why different things are happening on the screen. I am reminded of the proverb of "When life gives you lemons, make lemonade". You have a way of calming me down when I read something that I believe to be utterly ridiculous or unnecessary and therefore get angry when reading it, but then I read your take on certain things and I start to feel somewhat better which is saying a lot when it comes to this show.

    I was going to add some things regarding Dylan and JFP and why I don't trust her, but I will save it for another time.

    Again, thank you to all the Chadam posters. I appreciate each and every one of you and what you have to say.


    The main point I wanted to make about Summer having scenes with Sharon or anyone else talking about Adam is that the rumors are HK is the one who got MM fired. Whether the rumors are true are not is beside the point. Why would the writers have Summer of all people talk about Adam? They weren't close or shared many scenes together. So I was thinking that the writers did it on purpose to taunt MM and his supporters. When they have Summer say she's been reading about Adam online and doesn't know what to think, is that supposed to be a joke? My opinion is that it's all just tasteless and tptb are just trying to rub it in to MM and his fans' face. Apparently I'm not the only one who thinks this bc the writers at soap confidential pretty much made the same point on twitter, just not directly.


    I don't believe in coincidences.

    #29454   2014/02/13 06:31PM
    Re: Chadam Fans (No Bash)
    cdhg
    image

    Quote 3WishGenie: Poor Chelsea. She will have a meltdown when she can't find her son


    I am hoping that the friendship is over, at least for a long time with Chelsea going off on Chloe and not being sympathetic over guilt for the corneas, the past, Delia, Connor, Adam, etc. I do not see Chelsea being their for her friend and not abandoning her riveting or exciting TV at all. The build has been for a blow up for months, it seems. Adam/Chadam/Chelsea fans are ready for Chelsea to let Chloe have it and I figure some Chloe fans are not happy with Chelsea either. Let the fireworks start.

    Victor is not the most sympathetic or politically correct to excuses whether it be guilt, grief, or mental illness, as evident in scenes with and/or actions toward Dylan and Sharon. Victor being in Paris may not bode to well for Chloe.

    I read where Chloe was wearing the shirt that Chelsea had on when Adam gave Chelsea the engagement ring. I guess Chloe wants to be Chelsea and live her life. She wants Connor. Maybe secretly she wants Adam and wants to find him in Paris and have a family with him

    #29455   2014/02/13 06:35PM
    Re: Chadam Fans (No Bash)
    cdhg
    image

    Quote Jacee Wojo:
    Quote Ari1:
    Quote Laduree:
    Quote Ari1: So I guess Chelsea turns to Victor to try and get Conner back. That's pretty much what I figured. I hope Chelsea doesn't let him manipulate her and get his foot in the door bc he helped her. Now that his other children have disowned him he'll probably become more obsessed with getting his hands on Conner. Sigh.

    I read that Victor told Billy that Adam was sick and he kept the secret to protect Conner from Adam. Is that true? I can't believe he thinks Adam actually hit Delia and left her to die. What an evil person Victor is. That reasoning makes zero sense bc if he really thought Adam was dangerous, he'd want him to go to jail. The whole blackmail story never really made much sense bc the easiest way for Victor to get his hands on Conner was to put Adam in prison.

    Hearing Jack tell Chelsea that he loved Adam, too, was very touching. That's why I don't want Chelsea ever turning to Victor bc he enjoyed crushing Adam under his thumb. Chelsea would never want him in Connor's life. Never. It's just sickening if the writers go there. From the spoilers saying Chelsea disregards Adam's final wishes, I guess that's where we are headed. Double sigh.


    Victor will throw anyone under the bus, including his own son, to deflect from his own criminality and moral shortcomings. He has gone so far around the bend, I will never give a darn about him again.


    I know! Victor is the true sociopath. He never feels remorse for anything. He never regrets his mistakes or even thinks he did anything wrong. Smh. There is nothing to like about this character. Nothing. All he does is blame others for his faults. No self reflection. He's just a bully and a monster. Why he is not shunned by everyone in GC is beyond me.


    I have been reading all the posts and have finally caught up. I agree with the both of you and what you have said on everything and of course that includes what has been said about Victor. It seems like his character is getting worse by the day and I have always thought of him as a bully, but lately true sociopath is a much better description.

    I am still not watching, but like to read this thread because I feel this thread is where I am going to find the best posts because we are all Chadam or ChadaMM fans. I still am very discouraged by everything that has happened to MM and still believe in his innocence.

    Ari1 I so agree the blackmail story was another case imo of totally bad writing. Victor wanted access to Connor and the best way to get that was to have Adam in jail. So what was the purpose or advantage to the blackmail? Instead he has been found out and everyone hates him including his own family. It seems that he doesn't care what anyone thinks.

    Earlier in this thread you asked if anyone thought that it was a slap in the face to MM fans to have Summer and Sharon together talking about Adam. I definitely feel that way because why Summer when they have not shared many scenes together at all. I know there were some when Summer was in the accident that caused Chelsea's miscarriage, but I don't remember much more then those. On top of that to have her talk about Adam with Sharon seemed way off and I would have thought if she talked with anyone about it why not the man who is supposedly her father (whether true or not) - Jack - as well as Jack being the uncle to Delia. If not Jack then at least Nick.

    I'm not trying to be a downer for those that are still enjoying the show, but everything I read tells me that the writing continues to be horrible on so many levels.

    I have to admit that as a MM fan even though he is no longer there I still feel when Adam's name is mentioned I still associate MM with Adam. Until he is re-casted how is anyone suppose to feel any different. That brings me to another thought. Why does the re-cast have to take so long? I guess I don't trust JFP at all and feel that even though MM has been fired he is still very much a part of the show. Isn't that taken advantage of MM? Call me crazy, but it's how I feel. Since I believe in innocent unless proven guilty, and nothing has ever been proven I will always believe in his innocence. What makes me both mad and sad is that I feel that MM who imo is a wonderful actor right now is without a job. These were alleged charges put out there by TMZ which is not even considered newsworthy imo, and they have said all kinds of things that are not true. All the rest just ran with the original story. We then had some of the cast come out and say what they did to further cast doubt for some people. KSJ is still out there on Facebook ranting about I don't know what. I use to like Neil, but I no longer can look at him as I once did. I also don't think the writers have given him anything at all as far as a good s/l. Again earlier in this thread both Laduree and Home Sick Cajun brought Neil KSJ up and I totally agreed with what they said.

    The only good s/l imo still revolves around Chelsea and again Adam. I want Chelsea to be as far away from Chloe and Victor as possible. Because of Chloe kidnapping Connor it is obvious that Victor will be helping her. If that is all he is used for and does help getting Connor back that is fine, but then I don't want her any where near either of them. I wonder how Chloe will be treated by everyone after she kidnaps Connor? Those are criminal charges, and I understand that she is obviously in dire need of help, but it seems like everyone, but Adam gets treated differently in GC. Yes, Adam has done bad things in the past, but so has most of his accusers.

    cdhg I just want to say how much I enjoy your recaps as well as your insight as to why different things are happening on the screen. I am reminded of the proverb of "When life gives you lemons, make lemonade". You have a way of calming me down when I read something that I believe to be utterly ridiculous or unnecessary and therefore get angry when reading it, but then I read your take on certain things and I start to feel somewhat better which is saying a lot when it comes to this show.

    I was going to add some things regarding Dylan and JFP and why I don't trust her, but I will save it for another time.

    Again, thank you to all the Chadam posters. I appreciate each and every one of you and what you have to say.


    Thanks for the complimentary words. I appreciate it.

    I can sometimes be negative and rant and do that, but I try to be positive. I try to be open minded in regards to Y&R viewing, the show, and things in general.

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    #29456   2014/02/13 06:43PM
    Re: Chadam Fans (No Bash)
    Ari1
    image

    Quote Laduree:
    Quote Ari1:
    Quote Jacee Wojo:
    Quote Ari1:
    Quote Laduree:
    Quote Ari1: So I guess Chelsea turns to Victor to try and get Conner back. That's pretty much what I figured. I hope Chelsea doesn't let him manipulate her and get his foot in the door bc he helped her. Now that his other children have disowned him he'll probably become more obsessed with getting his hands on Conner. Sigh.

    I read that Victor told Billy that Adam was sick and he kept the secret to protect Conner from Adam. Is that true? I can't believe he thinks Adam actually hit Delia and left her to die. What an evil person Victor is. That reasoning makes zero sense bc if he really thought Adam was dangerous, he'd want him to go to jail. The whole blackmail story never really made much sense bc the easiest way for Victor to get his hands on Conner was to put Adam in prison.

    Hearing Jack tell Chelsea that he loved Adam, too, was very touching. That's why I don't want Chelsea ever turning to Victor bc he enjoyed crushing Adam under his thumb. Chelsea would never want him in Connor's life. Never. It's just sickening if the writers go there. From the spoilers saying Chelsea disregards Adam's final wishes, I guess that's where we are headed. Double sigh.


    Victor will throw anyone under the bus, including his own son, to deflect from his own criminality and moral shortcomings. He has gone so far around the bend, I will never give a darn about him again.


    I know! Victor is the true sociopath. He never feels remorse for anything. He never regrets his mistakes or even thinks he did anything wrong. Smh. There is nothing to like about this character. Nothing. All he does is blame others for his faults. No self reflection. He's just a bully and a monster. Why he is not shunned by everyone in GC is beyond me.


    I have been reading all the posts and have finally caught up. I agree with the both of you and what you have said on everything and of course that includes what has been said about Victor. It seems like his character is getting worse by the day and I have always thought of him as a bully, but lately true sociopath is a much better description.

    I am still not watching, but like to read this thread because I feel this thread is where I am going to find the best posts because we are all Chadam or ChadaMM fans. I still am very discouraged by everything that has happened to MM and still believe in his innocence.

    Ari1 I so agree the blackmail story was another case imo of totally bad writing. Victor wanted access to Connor and the best way to get that was to have Adam in jail. So what was the purpose or advantage to the blackmail? Instead he has been found out and everyone hates him including his own family. It seems that he doesn't care what anyone thinks.

    Earlier in this thread you asked if anyone thought that it was a slap in the face to MM fans to have Summer and Sharon together talking about Adam. I definitely feel that way because why Summer when they have not shared many scenes together at all. I know there were some when Summer was in the accident that caused Chelsea's miscarriage, but I don't remember much more then those. On top of that to have her talk about Adam with Sharon seemed way off and I would have thought if she talked with anyone about it why not the man who is supposedly her father (whether true or not) - Jack - as well as Jack being the uncle to Delia. If not Jack then at least Nick.

    I'm not trying to be a downer for those that are still enjoying the show, but everything I read tells me that the writing continues to be horrible on so many levels.

    I have to admit that as a MM fan even though he is no longer there I still feel when Adam's name is mentioned I still associate MM with Adam. Until he is re-casted how is anyone suppose to feel any different. That brings me to another thought. Why does the re-cast have to take so long? I guess I don't trust JFP at all and feel that even though MM has been fired he is still very much a part of the show. Isn't that taken advantage of MM? Call me crazy, but it's how I feel. Since I believe in innocent unless proven guilty, and nothing has ever been proven I will always believe in his innocence. What makes me both mad and sad is that I feel that MM who imo is a wonderful actor right now is without a job. These were alleged charges put out there by TMZ which is not even considered newsworthy imo, and they have said all kinds of things that are not true. All the rest just ran with the original story. We then had some of the cast come out and say what they did to further cast doubt for some people. KSJ is still out there on Facebook ranting about I don't know what. I use to like Neil, but I no longer can look at him as I once did. I also don't think the writers have given him anything at all as far as a good s/l. Again earlier in this thread both Laduree and Home Sick Cajun brought Neil KSJ up and I totally agreed with what they said.

    The only good s/l imo still revolves around Chelsea and again Adam. I want Chelsea to be as far away from Chloe and Victor as possible. Because of Chloe kidnapping Connor it is obvious that Victor will be helping her. If that is all he is used for and does help getting Connor back that is fine, but then I don't want her any where near either of them. I wonder how Chloe will be treated by everyone after she kidnaps Connor? Those are criminal charges, and I understand that she is obviously in dire need of help, but it seems like everyone, but Adam gets treated differently in GC. Yes, Adam has done bad things in the past, but so has most of his accusers.

    cdhg I just want to say how much I enjoy your recaps as well as your insight as to why different things are happening on the screen. I am reminded of the proverb of "When life gives you lemons, make lemonade". You have a way of calming me down when I read something that I believe to be utterly ridiculous or unnecessary and therefore get angry when reading it, but then I read your take on certain things and I start to feel somewhat better which is saying a lot when it comes to this show.

    I was going to add some things regarding Dylan and JFP and why I don't trust her, but I will save it for another time.

    Again, thank you to all the Chadam posters. I appreciate each and every one of you and what you have to say.


    The main point I wanted to make about Summer having scenes with Sharon or anyone else talking about Adam is that the rumors are HK is the one who got MM fired. Whether the rumors are true are not is beside the point. Why would the writers have Summer of all people talk about Adam? They weren't close or shared many scenes together. So I was thinking that the writers did it on purpose to taunt MM and his supporters. When they have Summer say she's been reading about Adam online and doesn't know what to think, is that supposed to be a joke? My opinion is that it's all just tasteless and tptb are just trying to rub it in to MM and his fans' face. Apparently I'm not the only one who thinks this bc the writers at soap confidential pretty much made the same point on twitter, just not directly.


    I don't believe in coincidences.


    I don't either. It must have been awkward for SC who supports MM to have to reveal her character's feelings for Adam about his "death" to Summer. Why would they do that? Perhaps to intimate SC? I don't know. I just think Summer/HK should not have been involved in Adam/MM's story, especially since his story didn't affect her in any way. I just think it was a way to stick it to MM and his friends and his fans. Jmo. Like you said, there are no coincidences, and the writers had plenty of time to plan this out.

    #29457   2014/02/13 06:52PM
    Re: Chadam Fans (No Bash)
    ericlizafan
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    I hope after the Paris trip, Chelsea says to heck with Victor...I hope it comes out about what he is doing to Sharon. He's a discusting, vile human being.

    #29458   2014/02/13 07:12PM
    Re: Chadam Fans (No Bash)
    cdhg
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    Quote ericlizafan: I hope after the Paris trip, Chelsea says to heck with Victor...I hope it comes out about what he is doing to Sharon. He's a discusting, vile human being.


    I know there are some who do not like Sharon that are okay with Victor doing that to Sharon, but using a look-a-like of your own granddaughter is twisted. It would be similar to Victor doing that to Chloe and I would not support that either.

    I think this probably garners sympathy for Sharon in the fallout regarding the truth coming out about Summer. I can see Nick initially being upset, but he will not like Victor doing this with Sharon's issues and the memory of Cassie. It looks like Victor is trying to get information out of Sharon that this Cassie look-a-like can rely back to him.

    I would like seeing Chelsea trick Victor in some way and get back to using her con senses. I understand Chelsea reaching out and receiving Victor's help especially if she sees his is truly grieving Adam, which I still question that some. In saying that, Victor did show sorry when at the accident site when he had the flashbacks to him when Adam was a child. Now, it seems he sees Chelsea and Connor as the young Hope and Adam that he told young Adam he would look after. I think Jack and Sharon are right regarding Victor's tactics with Chelsea and that Victor will grieve what he wanted Adam to be. Victor and Chelsea may grow closer in an unromantic way, but it does go against what Adam wanted and what Chelsea asked of Adam regarding Victor. In an odd sense, I could see Chelsea seeing some of the qualities she likes in Adam in Victor, although with Victor those seem limited. I know Chelsea likes the Hope version and traits of Adam, but she might see some positives out of Victor that she can relate with regarding Adam.

    When Adam returns, the dynamic will be interesting depending on Chelsea's standing regarding Victor.

    I would root for Victor against Chloe and Dylan in certain circumstances and when it is for the side or cause I support, but otherwise Victor's routine gets old with him winning and people treating him like a normal swell guy after all the things he has done.

    #29459   2014/02/13 07:44PM
    Re: Chadam Fans (No Bash)
    jamilah
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    I am not expecting that anything will happen to Chloe for taking Connor. When Dylan took him they had Chelsea making all sort of excuses because of his PTSD. Only Adam was ready to kill him for taking off with his son. Same crap will happen with Chloe, they won't let Chelsea get upset and end the friendship.

    She will probably start thinking that she is a bad mom because her child was taken once again. For almost a year Chloe kept telling her Adam would take the baby from her and encourage her to lie about Connor. Now she has decided its ok for her to take him and for Chelsea to never see her son again. Chloe losing Delia is not an excuse for her to hurt Chelsea like this. I don't consider this friendship at all.

    Chloe is a hypocrite, she didn't want Adam's money to be used for the Delia project but she wants his son.

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    #29460   2014/02/13 08:52PM
    Re: Chadam Fans (No Bash)
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    Quote jamilah: I am not expecting that anything will happen to Chloe for taking Connor. When Dylan took him they had Chelsea making all sort of excuses because of his PTSD. Only Adam was ready to kill him for taking off with his son. Same crap will happen with Chloe, they won't let Chelsea get upset and end the friendship.

    She will probably start thinking that she is a bad mom because her child was taken once again. For almost a year Chloe kept telling her Adam would take the baby from her and encourage her to lie about Connor. Now she has decided its ok for her to take him and for Chelsea to never see her son again. Chloe losing Delia is not an excuse for her to hurt Chelsea like this. I don't consider this friendship at all.

    Chloe is a hypocrite, she didn't want Adam's money to be used for the Delia project but she wants his son.


    It is nice that Chelsea is a caring person, but enough is enough. Chloe is in enough of a rational mind to be fully held accountable for her actions. I just do not have sympathy for Chloe (not regarding Delia, but as a person) based on her actions which go back a long time.

    Chelsea just needs to be proactive and keep people out of Connor's life like Chloe IMO.

    I liked your post on the other board about how Chelsea was at her best when she first came to town and had no friends. Of course, I like her best when she is with Adam, but I liked the way she dealt with people then and handled things. I liked the cockiness she had. I would like to see more of that mixed with a good heart vs. too much lily white stuff.

    Polite does not seem to work with Chloe. If someone else is found to be the hit and run driver, Chloe would still continually rag on Adam along with a few others for covering up what he thought he did. Chloe and others actions actually make Adam seem wise for not coming forward due to the reactions and feelings towards him that are present in the aftermath.

    Chloe might not want to be around Connor when he is older and acting like rougher sides of both Adam and Chelsea. Dylan might not want to be around Connor in those cases either. As I say that, I would like to see Connor be edgy like his parents when he gets older and not nicey nice.

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