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    Started by Axl Rose at 2012/05/03 02:04PM
    Latest post: 2014/07/29 04:02PM, Views: 1463236, Replies: 30987
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    #29421   2014/02/12 02:20AM
    Re: Chadam Fans (No Bash)
    Homesick Cajun
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    Quote Ari1: This is just a question and not meant to offend anyone. But did anyone find it tasteless that the writers had Sharon express her stoic reaction to Adam's death with Summer aka HK? Later I read that Summer said she was reading all about Adam online and she didn't know what to think. I just feel like this is a slap in MM's face. Sharon could have had her scenes with Nick or by herself. Inserting Sumner just seemed awkward. And why have Summer even talk about Adam? It's not like they were close or shared that many scenes together. I just feel like the writers were taunting MM and his fans.


    I'm not watching either, but reading recaps I read somewhere that Summer said "Maybe I was wrong about Adam", or words to that effect. I know this was someone's interpretation and not actual dialogue, but I thought it was yet another example of art imitating life. There was about as much reason to have Summer in the scene with Sharon as there was to tell Dylan about Delia's death on screen, but Esther was told off screen. Neither makes sense to me.

    Off topic, KSJ posted a long, long letter to Rachel from the examiner last night on his facebook page. If you decide to read it, pack a lunch. It's lengthy and condescending. Somebody needs to tell him it's not necessary to attend every argument he's invited to. Actually there are several who could benefit from that advice.

    #29422   2014/02/12 05:00AM
    Re: Chadam Fans (No Bash)
    Laduree
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    Quote Ari1: This is just a question and not meant to offend anyone. But did anyone find it tasteless that the writers had Sharon express her stoic reaction to Adam's death with Summer aka HK? Later I read that Summer said she was reading all about Adam online and she didn't know what to think. I just feel like this is a slap in MM's face. Sharon could have had her scenes with Nick or by herself. Inserting Sumner just seemed awkward. And why have Summer even talk about Adam? It's not like they were close or shared that many scenes together. I just feel like the writers were taunting MM and his fans.


    Sharon's entire non-reaction to Adam's death is very ho-hum. She would probably register more angst if she broke a nail. If that didn't convince the Shadam shippers, nothing will. Injecting Summer into it is just stupid and pointless unless they had some other agenda. Hard to tell with this crew.

    #29423   2014/02/12 05:04AM
    Re: Chadam Fans (No Bash)
    Laduree
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    Quote Homesick Cajun:
    Quote Ari1: This is just a question and not meant to offend anyone. But did anyone find it tasteless that the writers had Sharon express her stoic reaction to Adam's death with Summer aka HK? Later I read that Summer said she was reading all about Adam online and she didn't know what to think. I just feel like this is a slap in MM's face. Sharon could have had her scenes with Nick or by herself. Inserting Sumner just seemed awkward. And why have Summer even talk about Adam? It's not like they were close or shared that many scenes together. I just feel like the writers were taunting MM and his fans.


    I'm not watching either, but reading recaps I read somewhere that Summer said "Maybe I was wrong about Adam", or words to that effect. I know this was someone's interpretation and not actual dialogue, but I thought it was yet another example of art imitating life. There was about as much reason to have Summer in the scene with Sharon as there was to tell Dylan about Delia's death on screen, but Esther was told off screen. Neither makes sense to me.

    Off topic, KSJ posted a long, long letter to Rachel from the examiner last night on his facebook page. If you decide to read it, pack a lunch. It's lengthy and condescending. Somebody needs to tell him it's not necessary to attend every argument he's invited to. Actually there are several who could benefit from that advice.


    I'm starting to dislike KSJ, and in turn, Neil.

    #29424   2014/02/12 05:08AM
    Re: Chadam Fans (No Bash)
    Homesick Cajun
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    Quote Laduree:
    Quote Homesick Cajun:
    Quote Ari1: This is just a question and not meant to offend anyone. But did anyone find it tasteless that the writers had Sharon express her stoic reaction to Adam's death with Summer aka HK? Later I read that Summer said she was reading all about Adam online and she didn't know what to think. I just feel like this is a slap in MM's face. Sharon could have had her scenes with Nick or by herself. Inserting Sumner just seemed awkward. And why have Summer even talk about Adam? It's not like they were close or shared that many scenes together. I just feel like the writers were taunting MM and his fans.


    I'm not watching either, but reading recaps I read somewhere that Summer said "Maybe I was wrong about Adam", or words to that effect. I know this was someone's interpretation and not actual dialogue, but I thought it was yet another example of art imitating life. There was about as much reason to have Summer in the scene with Sharon as there was to tell Dylan about Delia's death on screen, but Esther was told off screen. Neither makes sense to me.

    Off topic, KSJ posted a long, long letter to Rachel from the examiner last night on his facebook page. If you decide to read it, pack a lunch. It's lengthy and condescending. Somebody needs to tell him it's not necessary to attend every argument he's invited to. Actually there are several who could benefit from that advice.


    I'm starting to dislike KSJ, and in turn, Neil.


    Funny how that works, huh? EB just did part one of a three part interview. It was posted on you tube yesterday, but I haven't had time to listen to it yet. Plan on doing that today if I have time. May have some liquid courage first. Based on early reviews, I'm sure it'll only serve to tick me off.

    #29425   2014/02/12 05:46AM
    Re: Chadam Fans (No Bash)
    justtwocents
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    Quote Ari1:
    Quote justtwocents:
    Quote Ari1:
    Quote justtwocents:
    Quote Ari1:
    Quote 3WishGenie:
    Quote Ari1:
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    Quote 3WishGenie: The hidden identity would be a very Adam thing to do but I don't know about Chelsea falling for him under this new identity. She's already crying about how he made her fall in love with him again knowing he had this huge secret. I think the amnesiac route would get rid of the deception aspect with him trying to remember where he belongs.


    You and Jamilah make great points on the issues of trusts, secrets, and lies. They have had Chadam do that too much under the new regime when their foundation was one of being open and honest. Of course, others on the show are being written with the secret stuff too have been written that way.

    I have went back and forth some on this, but I think you make a great point on the amnesia story, vs. the new face story. Perhaps there could be a new face and amnesia story, but I think there is plenty of drama in an amnesia story. I could think of different ways to write one. That was my first thought vs. the new face story. I can see it going either way, but the explosion and conditions does make me think that the new face story is possible.


    I prefer hearing PB just say that the role of Adam Newman is being played by.....(MM I don't want Chadam lying anymore to each other. Like you said, their whole foundation was that they knew all of their flaws and never had to lie bc they couldn't shock each other. But all these writers have done since they've started is have Chadam lie to each other. Smdh. The only good thing about Adam having a new face is they could still use flashbacks and old pictures (I guess) with MM. I don't want him to have amnesia either bc I want him to remember his love for his family. I guess I'd rather have Adam be so injured he can't get back to Chelsea until he heals. He could be in a coma and then wake up and come back to claim his family.


    He wouldnt have amnesia forever. Just until a significant event jogs his memory and it all comes back. But ya the new face thing practically writes itself so who knows.


    I guess I hate the whole new face thing bc it's just so unrealistic. Who is so disfigured that he has to have plastic surgery and comes out of it being good looking? Unfortunately, plastic surgery hasn't advanced that much that people can get a whole new face and look good. But these writers don't follow logic. So it's possible. I'm just waiting for some original story that sounds a tad bit interesting before I start watching again. I always wanted Chadam working together through this whole Delia story. Seeing Chelsea suffer for the next 3 to 6 months like how we watched Adam suffer is just not interesting. It's sad. We had 3 months of Adam's guilt. Now I guess we'll get at least 3 months of Chelsea's guilt. This is just poor story telling. We get it. We got it. We don't need to see or hear the same thing over and over. It's insulting.



    Snowed in so I'm checking in... Ari, are you watching this crap? I've not watched in weeks but check this board from time to time b/c I like the posters so much. The more I read the more I'm relieved not to be watching. I also keep hoping to see something about MM here but I'm not sure why. I knew you were checking tweets along the way but when I read this it sounded like you were watching again. Just curious.


    No, I'm not watching. I haven't even watched MM's last two days. It's too depressing. Plus I want the stories to get better, and that won't happen until JPF is gone. If we keep watching, nothing will change. So I'm just reading the recaps and checking the message boards.



    Ah, okay. I don't know if people walking away from Y&R will make a difference but I would do it if I were the only one. The writing has hit an all time low. It's hard to stomach even reading about it. Once Adam is re-cast I'll probably stop checking in b/c I don't want to be negative for those sticking with it. Until then, I'll keep checking in 2-3 times a week. It's all I can take.

    I secretly (and foolishly, I know) keep hoping that JFP will be kicked (hard) to the curb and MM will be re-hired (as if he'd say yes).


    The message boards are more entertaining than the show! I still post bc I am still a Chadam fan as we all are. I hope we feel we all can express our opinions without judgment.



    Yep, will always be a ChadaMM fan at heart. This group is awesome.

    Btw, did anyone read the recent CBS Soap Digest (?) It has MM on the top right cover with a teaser saying that MM had broken his silence with a "quote" from MM saying he'd "let them down." If you read it, I'd love to know what it said. No way am I giving money to CBS to read it.

    #29426   2014/02/12 01:36PM
    Re: Chadam Fans (No Bash)
    jamilah
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    ***Spoilers week of Feb 24*** from Jcren

    Victor, Kevin, and Chelsea confront Chloe in Paris. Will she listen to reason?

    Is there hope for Billy and Victoria's marriage?

    Things heat up between Tyler and Abby

    The moment of truth is coming for Leslie and Neil

    Jack warns Chelsea not to trust Victor

    Nick and Dylan unite to help Summer

    #29427   2014/02/12 01:49PM
    Re: Chadam Fans (No Bash)
    jamilah
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    ***SOC Spoilers WED CAN THUR USA***

    Chelsea, Avery, Jack
    At her condo, Chelsea opens the door to Avery who stopped by to offer her condolences and offers her help. Avery tells Chelsea she believes that Adam was going to go to the police and the video was made for that purpose. Chelsea tells her she appreciates Avery not saying anything nasty about Adam and she appreciated Dylan stopping by. It’s obvious Avery did not know he had been to see Chelsea. At the AC Jack is downstairs at the bar and calls Phyllis. Chelsea comes to the AC and tells Jack she is afraid to go upstairs because she is afraid everyone will hate her. Jack tells her they will hate him too because he loved Adam. Jack asks her if he could be her escort for the event. They go upstairs arm in arm.

    #29428   2014/02/12 03:03PM
    Re: Chadam Fans (No Bash)
    cdhg
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    Quote jamilah: ***SOC Spoilers WED CAN THUR USA***

    Chelsea, Avery, Jack
    At her condo, Chelsea opens the door to Avery who stopped by to offer her condolences and offers her help. Avery tells Chelsea she believes that Adam was going to go to the police and the video was made for that purpose. Chelsea tells her she appreciates Avery not saying anything nasty about Adam and she appreciated Dylan stopping by. It’s obvious Avery did not know he had been to see Chelsea. At the AC Jack is downstairs at the bar and calls Phyllis. Chelsea comes to the AC and tells Jack she is afraid to go upstairs because she is afraid everyone will hate her. Jack tells her they will hate him too because he loved Adam. Jack asks her if he could be her escort for the event. They go upstairs arm in arm.


    Sounds good. I will have to watch the scenes later along with yesterday's scenes.

    Your spoilers sound interesting too. Chelsea finally makes it to Paris but it is after a kidnapping of her child. Of course, I imagine this is all on set and not location filming with the costs involved in that.

    It is interesting to hear about Jeff Bardwell returning as well.

    I was thinking Chelsea might rely on Victor's help after the kidnapping and possibly Jack overplaying his hand or overstepping boundaries regarding Chelsea and Connor over the kidnapping and Victor involvement.

    #29429   2014/02/12 03:05PM
    Re: Chadam Fans (No Bash)
    cdhg
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    Quote justtwocents:
    Quote Ari1:
    Quote justtwocents:
    Quote Ari1:
    Quote justtwocents:
    Quote Ari1:
    Quote 3WishGenie:
    Quote Ari1:
    Quote cdhg:
    Quote 3WishGenie: The hidden identity would be a very Adam thing to do but I don't know about Chelsea falling for him under this new identity. She's already crying about how he made her fall in love with him again knowing he had this huge secret. I think the amnesiac route would get rid of the deception aspect with him trying to remember where he belongs.


    You and Jamilah make great points on the issues of trusts, secrets, and lies. They have had Chadam do that too much under the new regime when their foundation was one of being open and honest. Of course, others on the show are being written with the secret stuff too have been written that way.

    I have went back and forth some on this, but I think you make a great point on the amnesia story, vs. the new face story. Perhaps there could be a new face and amnesia story, but I think there is plenty of drama in an amnesia story. I could think of different ways to write one. That was my first thought vs. the new face story. I can see it going either way, but the explosion and conditions does make me think that the new face story is possible.


    I prefer hearing PB just say that the role of Adam Newman is being played by.....(MM I don't want Chadam lying anymore to each other. Like you said, their whole foundation was that they knew all of their flaws and never had to lie bc they couldn't shock each other. But all these writers have done since they've started is have Chadam lie to each other. Smdh. The only good thing about Adam having a new face is they could still use flashbacks and old pictures (I guess) with MM. I don't want him to have amnesia either bc I want him to remember his love for his family. I guess I'd rather have Adam be so injured he can't get back to Chelsea until he heals. He could be in a coma and then wake up and come back to claim his family.


    He wouldnt have amnesia forever. Just until a significant event jogs his memory and it all comes back. But ya the new face thing practically writes itself so who knows.


    I guess I hate the whole new face thing bc it's just so unrealistic. Who is so disfigured that he has to have plastic surgery and comes out of it being good looking? Unfortunately, plastic surgery hasn't advanced that much that people can get a whole new face and look good. But these writers don't follow logic. So it's possible. I'm just waiting for some original story that sounds a tad bit interesting before I start watching again. I always wanted Chadam working together through this whole Delia story. Seeing Chelsea suffer for the next 3 to 6 months like how we watched Adam suffer is just not interesting. It's sad. We had 3 months of Adam's guilt. Now I guess we'll get at least 3 months of Chelsea's guilt. This is just poor story telling. We get it. We got it. We don't need to see or hear the same thing over and over. It's insulting.



    Snowed in so I'm checking in... Ari, are you watching this crap? I've not watched in weeks but check this board from time to time b/c I like the posters so much. The more I read the more I'm relieved not to be watching. I also keep hoping to see something about MM here but I'm not sure why. I knew you were checking tweets along the way but when I read this it sounded like you were watching again. Just curious.


    No, I'm not watching. I haven't even watched MM's last two days. It's too depressing. Plus I want the stories to get better, and that won't happen until JPF is gone. If we keep watching, nothing will change. So I'm just reading the recaps and checking the message boards.



    Ah, okay. I don't know if people walking away from Y&R will make a difference but I would do it if I were the only one. The writing has hit an all time low. It's hard to stomach even reading about it. Once Adam is re-cast I'll probably stop checking in b/c I don't want to be negative for those sticking with it. Until then, I'll keep checking in 2-3 times a week. It's all I can take.

    I secretly (and foolishly, I know) keep hoping that JFP will be kicked (hard) to the curb and MM will be re-hired (as if he'd say yes).


    The message boards are more entertaining than the show! I still post bc I am still a Chadam fan as we all are. I hope we feel we all can express our opinions without judgment.



    Yep, will always be a ChadaMM fan at heart. This group is awesome.

    Btw, did anyone read the recent CBS Soap Digest (?) It has MM on the top right cover with a teaser saying that MM had broken his silence with a "quote" from MM saying he'd "let them down." If you read it, I'd love to know what it said. No way am I giving money to CBS to read it.


    From what I remember it was basically about MM talking to castmates on the Penthouse set telling them he had let them down while teary eyed but telling them they had a lot of work to get done. It sounded like he also talked to the crew. This was info relayed by an insider.

    #29430   2014/02/12 03:13PM
    Re: Chadam Fans (No Bash)
    cdhg
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    Quote 3WishGenie:
    Quote Ari1:
    Quote cdhg:
    Quote 3WishGenie: The hidden identity would be a very Adam thing to do but I don't know about Chelsea falling for him under this new identity. She's already crying about how he made her fall in love with him again knowing he had this huge secret. I think the amnesiac route would get rid of the deception aspect with him trying to remember where he belongs.


    You and Jamilah make great points on the issues of trusts, secrets, and lies. They have had Chadam do that too much under the new regime when their foundation was one of being open and honest. Of course, others on the show are being written with the secret stuff too have been written that way.

    I have went back and forth some on this, but I think you make a great point on the amnesia story, vs. the new face story. Perhaps there could be a new face and amnesia story, but I think there is plenty of drama in an amnesia story. I could think of different ways to write one. That was my first thought vs. the new face story. I can see it going either way, but the explosion and conditions does make me think that the new face story is possible.


    I prefer hearing PB just say that the role of Adam Newman is being played by.....(MM I don't want Chadam lying anymore to each other. Like you said, their whole foundation was that they knew all of their flaws and never had to lie bc they couldn't shock each other. But all these writers have done since they've started is have Chadam lie to each other. Smdh. The only good thing about Adam having a new face is they could still use flashbacks and old pictures (I guess) with MM. I don't want him to have amnesia either bc I want him to remember his love for his family. I guess I'd rather have Adam be so injured he can't get back to Chelsea until he heals. He could be in a coma and then wake up and come back to claim his family.


    He wouldnt have amnesia forever. Just until a significant event jogs his memory and it all comes back. But ya the new face thing practically writes itself so who knows.


    Yes, when I was mentioning a possibly amnesia route, I was not thinking about permanent amnesia. I was thinking about him having flashbacks and gaining him memory back elsewhere before returning or while in town. I prefer there not to be one where he only remembers things pre-Chelsea with Sharon, but that would be short lived IMO. That would be similar to Nick thinking he was still with Sharon after the plane crash before remembering and rekindling things with Phyllis.

    I think powerful and good stories could be done with the return regardless of the route. There will need to be some explanation for why he was gone, which of course there will be injury, burn, and health issues to deal with while he is gone.

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