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    Chadam Fans (No Bash)

    Started by Axl Rose at 2012/05/03 02:04PM
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    #24581   2013/10/29 07:51PM
    Re: Chadam Fans Only NO BASHING
    justtwocents
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    Quote Ari1:
    Quote justtwocents:
    Quote Ari1: Omg! I just watched today's show. It was so beautiful. When Delia's dog showed up at the end, I was sobbing. This should definitely be the Emmy submission. The tea party, Adam at the road side memorial, it was all just poetry. MM expressed so much emotion without out any lines. He was perfection. I think besides everyone saying goodbye to Delia, Chelsea was saying goodbye to her old life. There wasn't much sadness, just acceptance. Adam is reacting the way she wanted him to react when they lost their baby. It's all coming full circle. He just has to open up to her.



    ICAM -- excellent acting all over the place. It was just a sad epi -- very emotional. The dog scene at the end had me searching for tissues. Adam at the roadside. I need a day just to recover. (Is Chadam on the Canadian epi today? I'm thinking not but hoping for some kind of affection when they hear the good news about Connor on Thursday)


    I didn't see Chadam in any of the Canadian recaps. I guess we'll have to wait for Thursday. I hope we get at least an affectionate hug. I think Friday will be more doom and gloom when Adam becomes a suspect.


    Sigh. BUT... I do agree with the person who posted earlier saying that if it has to happen, at least the s/l is moving along. Maybe if it arises early it will also be put to rest earlier. We can hope, right?

    #24582   2013/10/29 07:55PM
    Re: Chadam Fans Only NO BASHING
    TwoOfEach
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    I think its going to be a slog well into December. But I think we'll get something on Halloween. I don't know why, but I'm hopeful.

    #24583   2013/10/29 07:57PM
    Re: Chadam Fans Only NO BASHING
    Ari1
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    Quote justtwocents:
    Quote Ari1:
    Quote justtwocents:
    Quote Ari1: Omg! I just watched today's show. It was so beautiful. When Delia's dog showed up at the end, I was sobbing. This should definitely be the Emmy submission. The tea party, Adam at the road side memorial, it was all just poetry. MM expressed so much emotion without out any lines. He was perfection. I think besides everyone saying goodbye to Delia, Chelsea was saying goodbye to her old life. There wasn't much sadness, just acceptance. Adam is reacting the way she wanted him to react when they lost their baby. It's all coming full circle. He just has to open up to her.



    ICAM -- excellent acting all over the place. It was just a sad epi -- very emotional. The dog scene at the end had me searching for tissues. Adam at the roadside. I need a day just to recover. (Is Chadam on the Canadian epi today? I'm thinking not but hoping for some kind of affection when they hear the good news about Connor on Thursday)


    I didn't see Chadam in any of the Canadian recaps. I guess we'll have to wait for Thursday. I hope we get at least an affectionate hug. I think Friday will be more doom and gloom when Adam becomes a suspect.


    Sigh. BUT... I do agree with the person who posted earlier saying that if it has to happen, at least the s/l is moving along. Maybe if it arises early it will also be put to rest earlier. We can hope, right?


    I think everything will come to light during November sweeps. As long as Chelsea and Adam are there for each other, I can roll with it.

    #24584   2013/10/29 07:57PM
    Re: Chadam Fans Only NO BASHING
    Spike1976
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    Quote Ari1: Omg! I just watched today's show. It was so beautiful. When Delia's dog showed up at the end, I was sobbing. This should definitely be the Emmy submission. The tea party, Adam at the road side memorial, it was all just poetry. MM expressed so much emotion without out any lines. He was perfection. I think besides everyone saying goodbye to Delia, Chelsea was saying goodbye to her old life. There wasn't much sadness, just acceptance. Adam is reacting the way she wanted him to react when they lost their baby. It's all coming full circle. He just has to open up to her.


    BM and EH really stole the show today. Those 2 really have great chemistry. I would really like to see them as a full blown couple.

    Anita questioning Chelsea if her relationship with Adam is more than just Connor. Chelsea feels really comfortable being in the PH and if she thinks there is nothing more than just Connor then she's lying to herself. She can't live in that PH forever and just cohabitate with Adam. You can tell she's starting to fall for him again.

    #24585   2013/10/29 08:03PM
    Re: Chadam Fans Only NO BASHING
    Ari1
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    Quote Spike1976:
    Quote Ari1: Omg! I just watched today's show. It was so beautiful. When Delia's dog showed up at the end, I was sobbing. This should definitely be the Emmy submission. The tea party, Adam at the road side memorial, it was all just poetry. MM expressed so much emotion without out any lines. He was perfection. I think besides everyone saying goodbye to Delia, Chelsea was saying goodbye to her old life. There wasn't much sadness, just acceptance. Adam is reacting the way she wanted him to react when they lost their baby. It's all coming full circle. He just has to open up to her.


    BM and EH really stole the show today. Those 2 really have great chemistry. I would really like to see them as a full blown couple.

    Anita questioning Chelsea if her relationship with Adam is more than just Connor. Chelsea feels really comfortable being in the PH and if she thinks there is nothing more than just Connor then she's lying to herself. She can't live in that PH forever and just cohabitate with Adam. You can tell she's starting to fall for him again.


    One thing I've noticed is Chelsea seems to have let go of her anger. She no longer speaks harshly to Adam. It's all concern and caring. When she told Anita that watching Adam with the baby reminded her of the old Adam, I knew she was a goner.

    #24586   2013/10/29 08:05PM
    Re: Chadam Fans Only NO BASHING
    cdhg
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    Quote Laduree:
    Quote cdhg:
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    Quote TwoOfEach: I'm going to be blunt. November sweeps saved Chadam. Sony & CBS are all about the numbers and the key demos rebelled at the "delicious triangle." As bad as the summer of Chylan was, its ratings exceeded November 2012 sweeps in every measure. That's why I can say with every confidence that Shadam is never coming back at least not as long as Steve Kent and Angelica McD is in charge.


    Was the suckage known as Chylan a ratings boost when not comparing it to the "delicious triangle" (that wasn't)?


    Some of this is hard to determine since there are of course different characters, couples, writing, and stories to factor in. There was also the Summer paternity and Phyllis's exit from the show going on. My simple guess overall would be no, but I do not know specific demo numbers for each episode, but instead am just looking at overall viewer numbers for certain episodes.

    The one age group that tended to do well in heavier Chylan weeks was the 18-34 women age group. I even noticed a spike in this group initially when SB came onto the show. This was not always the case, but some weeks faired well in that age group. When I say doing better, we are not talking about a large amount of viewers in the whole scheme of viewer ratings. For the 18-49 women age group the numbers were not that different from last summer either being up or down some. The 18-49 women age group appeared to be down when making comparisons to Winter and Spring 2013. It would seem that the numbers were weaker as the age increased due to the overall ratings.

    I do not know specific episode demo numbers and a lot of things can be misleading when isolating certain things.

    I think Chadam together and Dylan in a good story with someone else is the better path for ratings. I know I keep mentioning this, but fixing Sharon and having her in a good reunion story with Nick or maybe a good story with Dylan, I think would also attract viewer interest. I think the key stories right now are interesting, but there needs to be more balance with romance and some happiness. The simple saying would be that great writing is key in everything.

    For the week of October 14-18, the 18-34 women demo group did well and the 18-49 women group moved up to a good level too. The 18-34 women group has been holding at a pretty good steady level in most weeks of late.

    Overall numbers are up, so the viewers are coming from some where. The 25-54 women group may be doing well and then the women over 54 may also be doing real well. Maybe men are up too.

    I do not know how viewing at cbs.com is factored in or how tweeting and social media gets factored in when it comes to catching TPTB interest, but it seems hard to figure ratings anymore IMO. There is also the TVGN. If DVR recordings and rewatching is including, I am not sure how they would get demo data from that. It would not hurt for people to play the episodes from CBS through without pausing or fast forwarding, I suppose, when Chadam have scenes together or when either Adam or Chelsea are in the episode.


    Thanks cdhg! I don't know how to factor in all the different stories woven throughout certain time periods. Couples shippers like to take full credit when a week is good. They tried to do that with Chylan during the baby reveal, as if Adam's involvement had nothing to do with it.


    There was an interesting thread about ratings months back (around late May/early June). A few of us chimed in. The one who started the thread is a Chadam fan, who hasn't posted in here in a while. It was a frustrating but interesting discussion in some ways.

    The Chadam fan who started the thread mentioned Chadam as a reason ratings were up during the week of May 20-24. Chadam had scenes in three episodes that week, including longer scenes in the May 24 episode. Chylan was in place and it is early stages at this time.

    The week itself was fair regarding HH ratings and overall viewer numbers, but it was one that did well in the 18-34 and 18-49 women demo groups.

    Certain Shadam fans came ready to argue their viewpoints. One mentioned how much better the Shadam Tahoe wedding did in comparison wedding and pointed out some low episodes pertaining to Chadam. Chadam fans and other made good points. Shictor being together was one of the things pointed out regarding ratings issues from last year. In defense of Chadam there was mention of Chelsea being a newer character and Chadam a newer couple and time being needed to build a fanbase and support. There was mention of a Shadam episode that did not do well. There was also mention of how the entire show and ensemble has to be considered. I need to point out comparing the two weddings is a terrible comparison as ratings were higher in general at the time of the Tahoe wedding vs. 2012. One was a wedding tied to a certain story and the other was more of a romantic one on a Friday tied to the couple itself, Chadam.

    In looking at ratings, Shadam has been a part of some great ratings days. However, it was either tied to or going on at times where big stories were going on or unfolding. The Tahoe wedding was tied in to a subsequent plane crash and the lie about Faith. The NOLA reunion and aftermath was tied in to angst with Nick and Victor and the fake murder of Skye and her disappearance. The January/February 2012 reunion was either surrounding or tied in to more angst with Victor, the Diane Jenkins murder mystery in its finishing stages, Patty Williams wrecking havoc, Jack getting shot, and the Kansas redemption story. Shadam has typically been tied in to people being in prison and certain plots.

    The ratings were on the decline while Shadam was still in Kansas sharing scenes during February 2012, although some Shadam fans would argue their split in early March 2012 led to the decline. During times, when things have been more calm and normal the ratings have been more in the normal and average range with Shadam being together and/or having scenes together. The longer they were together, the ratings tended to level off at a lower level from the high impact moments.

    I could point out isolated low ratings days for various different characters and couples. There are some that come to mind right now whether talking about Chadam, Shadam, Shick, Phick, Villy, and Chylan. TwoofEach mentioned November 2012 not being a good month, which was during the Chadam/Shadam triangle.

    The overall state of the show and storytelling is crucial as momentum is key in certain weeks and periods.

    I have done some study on ratings and certain ratings days. I would be better prepared for such a discussion the next time around should I want to engage in it. I could argue different positions and viewpoints. I feel that I could argue for and defend Chadam better now in such a debate involving Chadam vs. Shadam regarding episodes/ratings.

    The Chadam proposal episode did better in ratings than the Valentine's Day episode from 2011 where Adam proposed to Sharon at Gloworm. The ratings in general were also better at that point in 2011 in comparison to the overall ratings not being good surrounding the time when the Chadam proposal took place.

    It the writing and stories are not good, then it becomes more of a moot point regarding what couples are together. Any character or couple needs interesting stories and good writing. I do like the buzz that has been surrounding Chadam of late. It says a lot for the couple that their popularity has remained strong while being split. Chadam has lost some fans along the way, but has also gained fans. The positive buzz and popularity of the couple may be stronger now than it was last year. From my observations the ratings have been good in September and October and the show seems to be heading in a better direction.

    #24587   2013/10/29 08:06PM
    Re: Chadam Fans Only NO BASHING
    Spike1976
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    Quote Ari1:
    Quote Spike1976:
    Quote Ari1: Omg! I just watched today's show. It was so beautiful. When Delia's dog showed up at the end, I was sobbing. This should definitely be the Emmy submission. The tea party, Adam at the road side memorial, it was all just poetry. MM expressed so much emotion without out any lines. He was perfection. I think besides everyone saying goodbye to Delia, Chelsea was saying goodbye to her old life. There wasn't much sadness, just acceptance. Adam is reacting the way she wanted him to react when they lost their baby. It's all coming full circle. He just has to open up to her.


    BM and EH really stole the show today. Those 2 really have great chemistry. I would really like to see them as a full blown couple.

    Anita questioning Chelsea if her relationship with Adam is more than just Connor. Chelsea feels really comfortable being in the PH and if she thinks there is nothing more than just Connor then she's lying to herself. She can't live in that PH forever and just cohabitate with Adam. You can tell she's starting to fall for him again.


    One thing I've noticed is Chelsea seems to have let go of her anger. She no longer speaks harshly to Adam. It's all concern and caring. When she told Anita that watching Adam with the baby reminded her of the old Adam, I knew she was a goner.


    I even notice that she took a slight offense when Anita said that Adam couldn't give her what Dylan did.

    #24588   2013/10/29 08:10PM
    Re: Chadam Fans Only NO BASHING
    justtwocents
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    Quote Spike1976:
    Quote Ari1: Omg! I just watched today's show. It was so beautiful. When Delia's dog showed up at the end, I was sobbing. This should definitely be the Emmy submission. The tea party, Adam at the road side memorial, it was all just poetry. MM expressed so much emotion without out any lines. He was perfection. I think besides everyone saying goodbye to Delia, Chelsea was saying goodbye to her old life. There wasn't much sadness, just acceptance. Adam is reacting the way she wanted him to react when they lost their baby. It's all coming full circle. He just has to open up to her.


    BM and EH really stole the show today. Those 2 really have great chemistry. I would really like to see them as a full blown couple.

    Anita questioning Chelsea if her relationship with Adam is more than just Connor. Chelsea feels really comfortable being in the PH and if she thinks there is nothing more than just Connor then she's lying to herself. She can't live in that PH forever and just cohabitate with Adam. You can tell she's starting to fall for him again.


    They brought it! I think BM and EH they have a lot more spunk/chemistry than Vikki and Kevin IMO. I don't have anything against Chilly or Chlovin (? it's late. ha!) but neither offer the kind of chemistry Billy and Chloe bring to the table.

    As far as the second paragraph... now Chadam needs to play a little SHOW and TELL when it comes to how they feel for each other.

    #24589   2013/10/29 08:13PM
    Re: Chadam Fans Only NO BASHING
    Ari1
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    Quote Spike1976:
    Quote Ari1:
    Quote Spike1976:
    Quote Ari1: Omg! I just watched today's show. It was so beautiful. When Delia's dog showed up at the end, I was sobbing. This should definitely be the Emmy submission. The tea party, Adam at the road side memorial, it was all just poetry. MM expressed so much emotion without out any lines. He was perfection. I think besides everyone saying goodbye to Delia, Chelsea was saying goodbye to her old life. There wasn't much sadness, just acceptance. Adam is reacting the way she wanted him to react when they lost their baby. It's all coming full circle. He just has to open up to her.


    BM and EH really stole the show today. Those 2 really have great chemistry. I would really like to see them as a full blown couple.

    Anita questioning Chelsea if her relationship with Adam is more than just Connor. Chelsea feels really comfortable being in the PH and if she thinks there is nothing more than just Connor then she's lying to herself. She can't live in that PH forever and just cohabitate with Adam. You can tell she's starting to fall for him again.


    One thing I've noticed is Chelsea seems to have let go of her anger. She no longer speaks harshly to Adam. It's all concern and caring. When she told Anita that watching Adam with the baby reminded her of the old Adam, I knew she was a goner.


    I even notice that she took a slight offense when Anita said that Adam couldn't give her what Dylan did.


    Good catch! She's starting to defend him which could be foreshadowing on how she'll react when she learns about his involvement in the hit n run.

    #24590   2013/10/29 08:39PM
    Re: Chadam Fans Only NO BASHING
    cdhg
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    Quote Ari1:
    Quote Spike1976:
    Quote Ari1:
    Quote Spike1976:
    Quote Ari1: Omg! I just watched today's show. It was so beautiful. When Delia's dog showed up at the end, I was sobbing. This should definitely be the Emmy submission. The tea party, Adam at the road side memorial, it was all just poetry. MM expressed so much emotion without out any lines. He was perfection. I think besides everyone saying goodbye to Delia, Chelsea was saying goodbye to her old life. There wasn't much sadness, just acceptance. Adam is reacting the way she wanted him to react when they lost their baby. It's all coming full circle. He just has to open up to her.


    BM and EH really stole the show today. Those 2 really have great chemistry. I would really like to see them as a full blown couple.

    Anita questioning Chelsea if her relationship with Adam is more than just Connor. Chelsea feels really comfortable being in the PH and if she thinks there is nothing more than just Connor then she's lying to herself. She can't live in that PH forever and just cohabitate with Adam. You can tell she's starting to fall for him again.


    One thing I've noticed is Chelsea seems to have let go of her anger. She no longer speaks harshly to Adam. It's all concern and caring. When she told Anita that watching Adam with the baby reminded her of the old Adam, I knew she was a goner.


    I even notice that she took a slight offense when Anita said that Adam couldn't give her what Dylan did.


    Good catch! She's starting to defend him which could be foreshadowing on how she'll react when she learns about his involvement in the hit n run.


    I have not seen today's episode yet and since I had a tape mishap I only have about the last quarter of the episode. I am planning to watch it online in the coming days.

    It almost sounds like Anita is bring written out of character a little bit saying Adam could not give her what Dylan did.

    In reality, I hope that Adam cannot give her what Dylan did. If giving Chelsea a dirty warehouse and seemingly lackluster "I love yous" with a lacking heartfelt commitment towards Chelsea for who she is as a person, then I sure hope Adam couldn't give her what Dylan did in certain key aspects. Adam loves her too much to give her what Dylan gave her. Dylan bought a sofa and spa package and did not put any monetary investment into an engagement ring or wedding ring. Adam doesn't have to do much both emotionally, physically, or monetarily to outdo Dylan IMO. Dylan also seemed to be a little obsessive and controlling. Chelsea would been living a guilt ridden and anxious life with Dylan and would not have been able to have experience true happiness and be herself. Dylan would not provided the eye specialist either who properly diagnosed the condition and performed the surgery. Dylan was in self guilt mode after learning about vision issues with Peanut.

    Anita is wrong since Adam will provide Chelsea a life she wants, despite ups and downs. However, she is right if used for foreshadowing purposes since Adam will not give her what Dylan would have given her, but instead he will give much more.

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