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    #15521   2013/07/28 09:30AM
    Re: Chadam Fans Only NO BASHING
    jamilah
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    I have been thinking about Chylan wedding and a possible scenario that could be the unexpected or surprise. At the wedding Chelsea tells Dylan he is not the father and Adam is. Dylan refuses to believe her and insists that he is the father. He has bought a business and has made preparations for this child and refuses to just walk way.
    In his mind she lied to him before so who is to say she is telling him the truth. Jeff, Anita and Chloe would be there to back up her story but Dylan is in denial and refuse to believe them also. He is very angry at Chelsea and tells her he is not going to be shut out of his childs life. Not sure where I would place Adam but he eventually finds out he is the father not Dylan. Part of him is happy because his suspicions came true but the other part is angry because Chelsea lied and he missed out most of the pregnancy and she was about to give his child to another man. Both men wants to have proof from Chelsea because of her lie and wants a paternity test but because of the scares that Chelsea had in the past, all 3 of them decide its best to wait until the baby is born. Adam would still be going through his issues with Victor and NE but since he now knows that he is going t o be a father, this changes things for Adam and he realize he has some major decisions to make. While Dylan is still mad at Chelsea and is very depressed about her lie and have to deal with the possibility of losing this child. So while both men is mad at Chelsea, I see her moving out from Dylan and on her own. She feels very bad for what she has done and has regrets.

    In the meantime she tries to reach out to Adam and they get closer as they prepare to be parents. After Chelsea gives birth Dylan insists on a paternity test but the issue with the babies eyes comes up. This is where the eye specialist would come in and this would prove to all that the baby is Adams because of the same eye issue as hope.

    Let me know your thoughts, this is the only scenario I could come up with that would explain why SB and MCE is still working together. I refuse to believe that they will make Dylan understanding and want to stay with Chelsea after such a big lie. He would look more like a fool than he already is. What she did was wrong and there is no way she should be rewarded by having Dylan wanting to stay with her. In Adams case he will need to try and get along with her for the sake of his child but I fully expect him to give her the cold shoulder for awhile until they find their way back to each other.

    #15522   2013/07/28 09:45AM
    Re: Chadam Fans Only NO BASHING
    cdhg
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    Quote Laduree:
    Quote ChadamEpicLove: Good Morning fellow Chadamanians which are increasing in numbers.

    OMG, This has got to be the most busy and fast thread on this board. I guess Chadam has that kind of spill on us, knowing how they barely share a scene any more. The past 3 months have been a total Chadam drought for us fans. No wonder the July rating is at it's lowest.

    This whole year we have had this fake Chylan so called love story and nasty barf bucket same old boring Shadam. Adam doing booty call with the prostitute of the town Matress w*ore Sharho , boy oh boy I don't know why the writers and SC and MM keep pimping this couple. Don't they realize that a Shadam pairing has been done for the past 3 years and it tanked YR in rating and cause many old loyal fans of the show to say bye bye to YR due to their nastiness and toxicity of that vomit pairing. At least with Chylan, we have a sweet romance even though it is delusional to some extent. Shadam is nasty and same boring storyline over and over again. Adam and Sharon are about sex and then for the afterglow it is the same how we can't be with each other blah blah seriously if you two are that bad for each otehr then stop doing the nasty. Sharon is queen of w***e. She is digusting and is an incest twit. Sleeping with all Newman men Thank god Noah is her son or otherwise she would bang him. I used to love Sharon and Shick and only watched YR because of them but she keep becoming a sex crazed w***e who kept on promising that she will change but in the last 2 decades she is yet to find herself. She is needy, home wrecker, sleeps around all the time, manipulates her own children, is the worse mother considering choosing Adam over Faith and the list goes on and on. SC is a beautiful woman but has no acting ability compared to MS and MCE. The only reason she is still surviving is because she is a vet. She can barely play a supporting cast let alone a leading lady.

    The only reason we viewers are stuck with this boring and non-ending Shadam bull is due to SC and MM pimping it . This whole mess of this pairing started with SC pitching it to the writers and look what this pairing did to her character. Sharon 's downfall was majorly because Shadam. Granted Sharon was always a needy and doormat before Adam but Shadam ruined her character to a point where no amount of writing genius can redeem her.

    Now coming to Adam, the reason I love Chadam is mainly how their story was written and developed, how real and genuine their connection were. How a con and demon like Adam would change each other for the better but Adam in my opinion never really changed. After Riley died, he went demonic again, treating Chelsea like crap, lying to her, helping the ever so miss needy ShareAnewman while his own wife was hurting and was mourning the lose of their child all alone.
    Fine we get it that he has done very awful thing to Sharon and will forever feel guilty for kidnapping her child and blah blah blah but burning half of GC and then burning Chelsea's parents business and then asking your wife to stay mum, this guy in my opinion hasn't really changed. He doesn't love neither Chelsea nor Sharho. He only loves himself. The only two things he cares about his dddy dearest love which he will never get even after taking a bullet for him and NE which soon he will be losing.

    Adam might have graduated from Harvard but his IQ is lower than 13. He let matress who*e come between him and his wife and let Chelsea go because hewanted Sharho but then after Sharho rejected him which is not believable considering how easy she is to have specially to Adam, she even agreed to be his prostitute only without any pay. She is easy and that is why Adam can always have her without putting an effort. She and her nasty legs are always open for Newman men .
    And now we are supposed to believe that Sharon was just a booty call and Adam was moving on with twit Melanie all because Chelsea doesn't want to have anything to do with him. He is drinking and feeling like a lost puppy. Adam is slowly becoming a joke. I don't know how they can make him Victor 2.0 when he barely have any charm.

    Victor has a way with women , he might be old but he always charms the pant off women, Adam comes off as loser, Sharon wants him because no else wants her, she is easy and always will be, Melanie is just a cheap newbie who is also easy to get. Other than that, no other women wants Adam. He only had a real and powerful connection with Chelsea but once Chelsea saw the lies and ugliness and how Adam was manipulating her, she left him. Adam was emotionally and mentally abusing her so she was rightfully justified.
    I can't really blame Chelsea. She was deeply hurt by Adam and how he flaunted that easy mattress wh**e so called cheap nurse frosty finger in the same home they bought and dreamed of building a family in.

    Now as a Chelsea FF, I don't know if I should continue supporting Chadam or pray that my spunky terror move on to a better guy . The more I think about it they more I hate Adam and how he treated the best thing that ever happened to him. This dude has serious issues or mental problems. He let a easy and incest loving sl** destroy his relationship with a young woman who not only is beautiful and spunky and grey but also was his loyal friend and listener when middle aged shareanewman left him all alone while he was blind and at his most vulnerable.

    Despite of knowing that Shadam has destroyed YR a lot in the past 4 years and are a bust for the show, they keep listening to SC and MM and their pimping. In my opinion we viewers deserve better. They can't insult our intelligence with this nasty pairing. All they are good at is doing the nasty in the office. They are all sex and manipulation, no love, only obsession.

    Chelsea made Adam tolerable to me and humanized him a little bit but it is unfair that Chelsea had to be used to redeem Adam. Since we all Sharho couldn't redeem him due to that ugly and nasty history.

    Lord Jesus, I will be soon saying good bye to this show if Chadam doesn't find their way back to each other. Adam needs to do a lot of begging cause he is the cause of this mess. Chelsea might not be a saint but her tricks pale in comparison to Adam and Sharho.

    I will always be Team Chadam and Team Chelsea but I am not an Adam fan. His character is just pure demonic and psycho and has no human quality in him . The only time he was human was when he was married to Chels.

    If the writers wrong us and instead of Chadam, do another boring round of Shadam, then I am done with this show. It would serve them right if the show gets cancelled since they rather pimp their own faves instead of what people or audience wants.


    Good post. I'm an Adam FF, so I've gotta defend my boy...just a bit. He was completely in the wrong for allowing Sharon to mess with his guilt-riddled mind, because that's all it was. He loved his wife, but he let his past with Sharon confuse his feelings. He even admitted to Chelsea that she messes with his mind. He will probably always feel guilty for what he did, and nothing will take that away. He can save everyone in GC, but the guilt over Faith will always be there. He has to learn to live with it, and not let it consume him.

    When he lost Chelsea, his confusion started to ebb, but then he also has these HUGE daddy issues. Lots of people want to condemn him for that, and for being such a whinebag over a useless tool like Victor. Imagine growing up never knowing your father, only to discover your father is this wealthy and powerful billionaire with kids HE RAISED. It would really mess with your self-esteem. Since this revelation was dumped in Adam's lap he has been filled with self-loathing, insecurities, and pain. He wonders why his father didn't want him. It's not enough that Hope didn't want him to know about Victor. He sees how powerful Victor is, and if Victor wanted to be in his life, he would have been. Nothing would have stopped him. Hope just gave him an out.

    Adam has twisted himself into a pretzel to become a Newman. I think it's more out of a desire to prove that he's just as good as them, than his love for them. He has these walls he erects around himself to keep from feeling too much. Chelsea is the ONLY person to crash through those walls. Adam was always weepy and stalkerish with Sharon. He was real with Chelsea. She reached him in ways Sharon never did. He knows this now, but like Jack Abbott, Adam must learn the hard way.

    I'm not trying to excuse his Sharon behavior while married because he was SO WRONG on so many levels, but I get why he did it. As to his obsession with NE, I get that too. I do think Chelsea could have been a little more understanding and compassionate over his issues with Victor and NE, but after the Sharon debacle she had had enough.

    Anyway, sorry for the looooooong post, but I wanted to present Adam's point of view the way I see it.


    Well written and well explained.

    #15523   2013/07/28 09:52AM
    Re: Chadam Fans Only NO BASHING
    jamilah
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    Quote Laduree:
    Quote ChadamEpicLove: Good Morning fellow Chadamanians which are increasing in numbers.

    OMG, This has got to be the most busy and fast thread on this board. I guess Chadam has that kind of spill on us, knowing how they barely share a scene any more. The past 3 months have been a total Chadam drought for us fans. No wonder the July rating is at it's lowest.

    This whole year we have had this fake Chylan so called love story and nasty barf bucket same old boring Shadam. Adam doing booty call with the prostitute of the town Matress w*ore Sharho , boy oh boy I don't know why the writers and SC and MM keep pimping this couple. Don't they realize that a Shadam pairing has been done for the past 3 years and it tanked YR in rating and cause many old loyal fans of the show to say bye bye to YR due to their nastiness and toxicity of that vomit pairing. At least with Chylan, we have a sweet romance even though it is delusional to some extent. Shadam is nasty and same boring storyline over and over again. Adam and Sharon are about sex and then for the afterglow it is the same how we can't be with each other blah blah seriously if you two are that bad for each otehr then stop doing the nasty. Sharon is queen of w***e. She is digusting and is an incest twit. Sleeping with all Newman men Thank god Noah is her son or otherwise she would bang him. I used to love Sharon and Shick and only watched YR because of them but she keep becoming a sex crazed w***e who kept on promising that she will change but in the last 2 decades she is yet to find herself. She is needy, home wrecker, sleeps around all the time, manipulates her own children, is the worse mother considering choosing Adam over Faith and the list goes on and on. SC is a beautiful woman but has no acting ability compared to MS and MCE. The only reason she is still surviving is because she is a vet. She can barely play a supporting cast let alone a leading lady.

    The only reason we viewers are stuck with this boring and non-ending Shadam bull is due to SC and MM pimping it . This whole mess of this pairing started with SC pitching it to the writers and look what this pairing did to her character. Sharon 's downfall was majorly because Shadam. Granted Sharon was always a needy and doormat before Adam but Shadam ruined her character to a point where no amount of writing genius can redeem her.

    Now coming to Adam, the reason I love Chadam is mainly how their story was written and developed, how real and genuine their connection were. How a con and demon like Adam would change each other for the better but Adam in my opinion never really changed. After Riley died, he went demonic again, treating Chelsea like crap, lying to her, helping the ever so miss needy ShareAnewman while his own wife was hurting and was mourning the lose of their child all alone.
    Fine we get it that he has done very awful thing to Sharon and will forever feel guilty for kidnapping her child and blah blah blah but burning half of GC and then burning Chelsea's parents business and then asking your wife to stay mum, this guy in my opinion hasn't really changed. He doesn't love neither Chelsea nor Sharho. He only loves himself. The only two things he cares about his dddy dearest love which he will never get even after taking a bullet for him and NE which soon he will be losing.

    Adam might have graduated from Harvard but his IQ is lower than 13. He let matress who*e come between him and his wife and let Chelsea go because hewanted Sharho but then after Sharho rejected him which is not believable considering how easy she is to have specially to Adam, she even agreed to be his prostitute only without any pay. She is easy and that is why Adam can always have her without putting an effort. She and her nasty legs are always open for Newman men .
    And now we are supposed to believe that Sharon was just a booty call and Adam was moving on with twit Melanie all because Chelsea doesn't want to have anything to do with him. He is drinking and feeling like a lost puppy. Adam is slowly becoming a joke. I don't know how they can make him Victor 2.0 when he barely have any charm.

    Victor has a way with women , he might be old but he always charms the pant off women, Adam comes off as loser, Sharon wants him because no else wants her, she is easy and always will be, Melanie is just a cheap newbie who is also easy to get. Other than that, no other women wants Adam. He only had a real and powerful connection with Chelsea but once Chelsea saw the lies and ugliness and how Adam was manipulating her, she left him. Adam was emotionally and mentally abusing her so she was rightfully justified.
    I can't really blame Chelsea. She was deeply hurt by Adam and how he flaunted that easy mattress wh**e so called cheap nurse frosty finger in the same home they bought and dreamed of building a family in.

    Now as a Chelsea FF, I don't know if I should continue supporting Chadam or pray that my spunky terror move on to a better guy . The more I think about it they more I hate Adam and how he treated the best thing that ever happened to him. This dude has serious issues or mental problems. He let a easy and incest loving sl** destroy his relationship with a young woman who not only is beautiful and spunky and grey but also was his loyal friend and listener when middle aged shareanewman left him all alone while he was blind and at his most vulnerable.

    Despite of knowing that Shadam has destroyed YR a lot in the past 4 years and are a bust for the show, they keep listening to SC and MM and their pimping. In my opinion we viewers deserve better. They can't insult our intelligence with this nasty pairing. All they are good at is doing the nasty in the office. They are all sex and manipulation, no love, only obsession.

    Chelsea made Adam tolerable to me and humanized him a little bit but it is unfair that Chelsea had to be used to redeem Adam. Since we all Sharho couldn't redeem him due to that ugly and nasty history.

    Lord Jesus, I will be soon saying good bye to this show if Chadam doesn't find their way back to each other. Adam needs to do a lot of begging cause he is the cause of this mess. Chelsea might not be a saint but her tricks pale in comparison to Adam and Sharho.

    I will always be Team Chadam and Team Chelsea but I am not an Adam fan. His character is just pure demonic and psycho and has no human quality in him . The only time he was human was when he was married to Chels.

    If the writers wrong us and instead of Chadam, do another boring round of Shadam, then I am done with this show. It would serve them right if the show gets cancelled since they rather pimp their own faves instead of what people or audience wants.


    Good post. I'm an Adam FF, so I've gotta defend my boy...just a bit. He was completely in the wrong for allowing Sharon to mess with his guilt-riddled mind, because that's all it was. He loved his wife, but he let his past with Sharon confuse his feelings. He even admitted to Chelsea that she messes with his mind. He will probably always feel guilty for what he did, and nothing will take that away. He can save everyone in GC, but the guilt over Faith will always be there. He has to learn to live with it, and not let it consume him.

    When he lost Chelsea, his confusion started to ebb, but then he also has these HUGE daddy issues. Lots of people want to condemn him for that, and for being such a whinebag over a useless tool like Victor. Imagine growing up never knowing your father, only to discover your father is this wealthy and powerful billionaire with kids HE RAISED. It would really mess with your self-esteem. Since this revelation was dumped in Adam's lap he has been filled with self-loathing, insecurities, and pain. He wonders why his father didn't want him. It's not enough that Hope didn't want him to know about Victor. He sees how powerful Victor is, and if Victor wanted to be in his life, he would have been. Nothing would have stopped him. Hope just gave him an out.

    Adam has twisted himself into a pretzel to become a Newman. I think it's more out of a desire to prove that he's just as good as them, than his love for them. He has these walls he erects around himself to keep from feeling too much. Chelsea is the ONLY person to crash through those walls. Adam was always weepy and stalkerish with Sharon. He was real with Chelsea. She reached him in ways Sharon never did. He knows this now, but like Jack Abbott, Adam must learn the hard way.

    I'm not trying to excuse his Sharon behavior while married because he was SO WRONG on so many levels, but I get why he did it. As to his obsession with NE, I get that too. I do think Chelsea could have been a little more understanding and compassionate over his issues with Victor and NE, but after the Sharon debacle she had had enough.

    Anyway, sorry for the looooooong post, but I wanted to present Adam's point of view the way I see it.


    ITA Chelsea could have stuck by him even though she didn't agree with him going back to NE. That was just a stupid plot point that they used to break up Chadam. I rewatched the old Chadam scenes when they just got married and Chelsea was very supportive of him when he just went back to NE the first time. They rewrote her feelings towards NE to justify breaking them up.

    #15524   2013/07/28 09:55AM
    Re: Chadam Fans Only NO BASHING
    cdhg
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    Quote jamilah: I have been thinking about Chylan wedding and a possible scenario that could be the unexpected or surprise. At the wedding Chelsea tells Dylan he is not the father and Adam is. Dylan refuses to believe her and insists that he is the father. He has bought a business and has made preparations for this child and refuses to just walk way.
    In his mind she lied to him before so who is to say she is telling him the truth. Jeff, Anita and Chloe would be there to back up her story but Dylan is in denial and refuse to believe them also. He is very angry at Chelsea and tells her he is not going to be shut out of his childs life. Not sure where I would place Adam but he eventually finds out he is the father not Dylan. Part of him is happy because his suspicions came true but the other part is angry because Chelsea lied and he missed out most of the pregnancy and she was about to give his child to another man. Both men wants to have proof from Chelsea because of her lie and wants a paternity test but because of the scares that Chelsea had in the past, all 3 of them decide its best to wait until the baby is born. Adam would still be going through his issues with Victor and NE but since he now knows that he is going t o be a father, this changes things for Adam and he realize he has some major decisions to make. While Dylan is still mad at Chelsea and is very depressed about her lie and have to deal with the possibility of losing this child. So while both men is mad at Chelsea, I see her moving out from Dylan and on her own. She feels very bad for what she has done and has regrets.

    In the meantime she tries to reach out to Adam and they get closer as they prepare to be parents. After Chelsea gives birth Dylan insists on a paternity test but the issue with the babies eyes comes up. This is where the eye specialist would come in and this would prove to all that the baby is Adams because of the same eye issue as hope.

    Let me know your thoughts, this is the only scenario I could come up with that would explain why SB and MCE is still working together. I refuse to believe that they will make Dylan understanding and want to stay with Chelsea after such a big lie. He would look more like a fool than he already is. What she did was wrong and there is no way she should be rewarded by having Dylan wanting to stay with her. In Adams case he will need to try and get along with her for the sake of his child but I fully expect him to give her the cold shoulder for awhile until they find their way back to each other.


    This is possible, but I think the truth is not out at that moment, or at least not clear. I think her having to go to the hospital over pains is the surprise and with Victor and Adam being there that will just add to the stress.

    I am thinking Dylan may be learning the truth in the scenes that were taped this week, maybe the one that Joshua Morrow referred to. You are right in saying that if Dylan forgave her then it would be like rewarding her for the lie.

    If Adam does not know the truth in what has already been taped, then I figure he will soon. If anyone mentions MCE and MM taping on a particular day, or MCE, MM, and EB, then will may not something is up.

    I can see Adam being hurt and upset initially, but he may talk with people like Jack, Avery, and think about things he has done in the past and reach out to Chelsea and have a good heart to heart.

    #15525   2013/07/28 09:59AM
    Re: Chadam Fans Only NO BASHING
    cdhg
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    Quote jamilah:
    Quote Laduree:
    Quote ChadamEpicLove: Good Morning fellow Chadamanians which are increasing in numbers.

    OMG, This has got to be the most busy and fast thread on this board. I guess Chadam has that kind of spill on us, knowing how they barely share a scene any more. The past 3 months have been a total Chadam drought for us fans. No wonder the July rating is at it's lowest.

    This whole year we have had this fake Chylan so called love story and nasty barf bucket same old boring Shadam. Adam doing booty call with the prostitute of the town Matress w*ore Sharho , boy oh boy I don't know why the writers and SC and MM keep pimping this couple. Don't they realize that a Shadam pairing has been done for the past 3 years and it tanked YR in rating and cause many old loyal fans of the show to say bye bye to YR due to their nastiness and toxicity of that vomit pairing. At least with Chylan, we have a sweet romance even though it is delusional to some extent. Shadam is nasty and same boring storyline over and over again. Adam and Sharon are about sex and then for the afterglow it is the same how we can't be with each other blah blah seriously if you two are that bad for each otehr then stop doing the nasty. Sharon is queen of w***e. She is digusting and is an incest twit. Sleeping with all Newman men Thank god Noah is her son or otherwise she would bang him. I used to love Sharon and Shick and only watched YR because of them but she keep becoming a sex crazed w***e who kept on promising that she will change but in the last 2 decades she is yet to find herself. She is needy, home wrecker, sleeps around all the time, manipulates her own children, is the worse mother considering choosing Adam over Faith and the list goes on and on. SC is a beautiful woman but has no acting ability compared to MS and MCE. The only reason she is still surviving is because she is a vet. She can barely play a supporting cast let alone a leading lady.

    The only reason we viewers are stuck with this boring and non-ending Shadam bull is due to SC and MM pimping it . This whole mess of this pairing started with SC pitching it to the writers and look what this pairing did to her character. Sharon 's downfall was majorly because Shadam. Granted Sharon was always a needy and doormat before Adam but Shadam ruined her character to a point where no amount of writing genius can redeem her.

    Now coming to Adam, the reason I love Chadam is mainly how their story was written and developed, how real and genuine their connection were. How a con and demon like Adam would change each other for the better but Adam in my opinion never really changed. After Riley died, he went demonic again, treating Chelsea like crap, lying to her, helping the ever so miss needy ShareAnewman while his own wife was hurting and was mourning the lose of their child all alone.
    Fine we get it that he has done very awful thing to Sharon and will forever feel guilty for kidnapping her child and blah blah blah but burning half of GC and then burning Chelsea's parents business and then asking your wife to stay mum, this guy in my opinion hasn't really changed. He doesn't love neither Chelsea nor Sharho. He only loves himself. The only two things he cares about his dddy dearest love which he will never get even after taking a bullet for him and NE which soon he will be losing.

    Adam might have graduated from Harvard but his IQ is lower than 13. He let matress who*e come between him and his wife and let Chelsea go because hewanted Sharho but then after Sharho rejected him which is not believable considering how easy she is to have specially to Adam, she even agreed to be his prostitute only without any pay. She is easy and that is why Adam can always have her without putting an effort. She and her nasty legs are always open for Newman men .
    And now we are supposed to believe that Sharon was just a booty call and Adam was moving on with twit Melanie all because Chelsea doesn't want to have anything to do with him. He is drinking and feeling like a lost puppy. Adam is slowly becoming a joke. I don't know how they can make him Victor 2.0 when he barely have any charm.

    Victor has a way with women , he might be old but he always charms the pant off women, Adam comes off as loser, Sharon wants him because no else wants her, she is easy and always will be, Melanie is just a cheap newbie who is also easy to get. Other than that, no other women wants Adam. He only had a real and powerful connection with Chelsea but once Chelsea saw the lies and ugliness and how Adam was manipulating her, she left him. Adam was emotionally and mentally abusing her so she was rightfully justified.
    I can't really blame Chelsea. She was deeply hurt by Adam and how he flaunted that easy mattress wh**e so called cheap nurse frosty finger in the same home they bought and dreamed of building a family in.

    Now as a Chelsea FF, I don't know if I should continue supporting Chadam or pray that my spunky terror move on to a better guy . The more I think about it they more I hate Adam and how he treated the best thing that ever happened to him. This dude has serious issues or mental problems. He let a easy and incest loving sl** destroy his relationship with a young woman who not only is beautiful and spunky and grey but also was his loyal friend and listener when middle aged shareanewman left him all alone while he was blind and at his most vulnerable.

    Despite of knowing that Shadam has destroyed YR a lot in the past 4 years and are a bust for the show, they keep listening to SC and MM and their pimping. In my opinion we viewers deserve better. They can't insult our intelligence with this nasty pairing. All they are good at is doing the nasty in the office. They are all sex and manipulation, no love, only obsession.

    Chelsea made Adam tolerable to me and humanized him a little bit but it is unfair that Chelsea had to be used to redeem Adam. Since we all Sharho couldn't redeem him due to that ugly and nasty history.

    Lord Jesus, I will be soon saying good bye to this show if Chadam doesn't find their way back to each other. Adam needs to do a lot of begging cause he is the cause of this mess. Chelsea might not be a saint but her tricks pale in comparison to Adam and Sharho.

    I will always be Team Chadam and Team Chelsea but I am not an Adam fan. His character is just pure demonic and psycho and has no human quality in him . The only time he was human was when he was married to Chels.

    If the writers wrong us and instead of Chadam, do another boring round of Shadam, then I am done with this show. It would serve them right if the show gets cancelled since they rather pimp their own faves instead of what people or audience wants.


    Good post. I'm an Adam FF, so I've gotta defend my boy...just a bit. He was completely in the wrong for allowing Sharon to mess with his guilt-riddled mind, because that's all it was. He loved his wife, but he let his past with Sharon confuse his feelings. He even admitted to Chelsea that she messes with his mind. He will probably always feel guilty for what he did, and nothing will take that away. He can save everyone in GC, but the guilt over Faith will always be there. He has to learn to live with it, and not let it consume him.

    When he lost Chelsea, his confusion started to ebb, but then he also has these HUGE daddy issues. Lots of people want to condemn him for that, and for being such a whinebag over a useless tool like Victor. Imagine growing up never knowing your father, only to discover your father is this wealthy and powerful billionaire with kids HE RAISED. It would really mess with your self-esteem. Since this revelation was dumped in Adam's lap he has been filled with self-loathing, insecurities, and pain. He wonders why his father didn't want him. It's not enough that Hope didn't want him to know about Victor. He sees how powerful Victor is, and if Victor wanted to be in his life, he would have been. Nothing would have stopped him. Hope just gave him an out.

    Adam has twisted himself into a pretzel to become a Newman. I think it's more out of a desire to prove that he's just as good as them, than his love for them. He has these walls he erects around himself to keep from feeling too much. Chelsea is the ONLY person to crash through those walls. Adam was always weepy and stalkerish with Sharon. He was real with Chelsea. She reached him in ways Sharon never did. He knows this now, but like Jack Abbott, Adam must learn the hard way.

    I'm not trying to excuse his Sharon behavior while married because he was SO WRONG on so many levels, but I get why he did it. As to his obsession with NE, I get that too. I do think Chelsea could have been a little more understanding and compassionate over his issues with Victor and NE, but after the Sharon debacle she had had enough.

    Anyway, sorry for the looooooong post, but I wanted to present Adam's point of view the way I see it.


    ITA Chelsea could have stuck by him even though she didn't agree with him going back to NE. That was just a stupid plot point that they used to break up Chadam. I rewatched the old Chadam scenes when they just got married and Chelsea was very supportive of him when he just went back to NE the first time. They rewrote her feelings towards NE to justify breaking them up.


    I think it was more about him not agreeing to her request to leave the country like she asked and he was not putting her first with his Newman obsession. You are right that it is a plot point. It is part of Adam's journey of dealing with his obsessions and things regarding Victor and NE. Also, he has yet to make the grand sacrifices as he promised Sharon in December, so it is definitely a plot point.

    #15526   2013/07/28 10:02AM
    Re: Chadam Fans Only NO BASHING
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    Quote Spike1976:
    Quote Laduree:
    Quote ChadamEpicLove: Good Morning fellow Chadamanians which are increasing in numbers.

    OMG, This has got to be the most busy and fast thread on this board. I guess Chadam has that kind of spill on us, knowing how they barely share a scene any more. The past 3 months have been a total Chadam drought for us fans. No wonder the July rating is at it's lowest.

    This whole year we have had this fake Chylan so called love story and nasty barf bucket same old boring Shadam. Adam doing booty call with the prostitute of the town Matress w*ore Sharho , boy oh boy I don't know why the writers and SC and MM keep pimping this couple. Don't they realize that a Shadam pairing has been done for the past 3 years and it tanked YR in rating and cause many old loyal fans of the show to say bye bye to YR due to their nastiness and toxicity of that vomit pairing. At least with Chylan, we have a sweet romance even though it is delusional to some extent. Shadam is nasty and same boring storyline over and over again. Adam and Sharon are about sex and then for the afterglow it is the same how we can't be with each other blah blah seriously if you two are that bad for each otehr then stop doing the nasty. Sharon is queen of w***e. She is digusting and is an incest twit. Sleeping with all Newman men Thank god Noah is her son or otherwise she would bang him. I used to love Sharon and Shick and only watched YR because of them but she keep becoming a sex crazed w***e who kept on promising that she will change but in the last 2 decades she is yet to find herself. She is needy, home wrecker, sleeps around all the time, manipulates her own children, is the worse mother considering choosing Adam over Faith and the list goes on and on. SC is a beautiful woman but has no acting ability compared to MS and MCE. The only reason she is still surviving is because she is a vet. She can barely play a supporting cast let alone a leading lady.

    The only reason we viewers are stuck with this boring and non-ending Shadam bull is due to SC and MM pimping it . This whole mess of this pairing started with SC pitching it to the writers and look what this pairing did to her character. Sharon 's downfall was majorly because Shadam. Granted Sharon was always a needy and doormat before Adam but Shadam ruined her character to a point where no amount of writing genius can redeem her.

    Now coming to Adam, the reason I love Chadam is mainly how their story was written and developed, how real and genuine their connection were. How a con and demon like Adam would change each other for the better but Adam in my opinion never really changed. After Riley died, he went demonic again, treating Chelsea like crap, lying to her, helping the ever so miss needy ShareAnewman while his own wife was hurting and was mourning the lose of their child all alone.
    Fine we get it that he has done very awful thing to Sharon and will forever feel guilty for kidnapping her child and blah blah blah but burning half of GC and then burning Chelsea's parents business and then asking your wife to stay mum, this guy in my opinion hasn't really changed. He doesn't love neither Chelsea nor Sharho. He only loves himself. The only two things he cares about his dddy dearest love which he will never get even after taking a bullet for him and NE which soon he will be losing.

    Adam might have graduated from Harvard but his IQ is lower than 13. He let matress who*e come between him and his wife and let Chelsea go because hewanted Sharho but then after Sharho rejected him which is not believable considering how easy she is to have specially to Adam, she even agreed to be his prostitute only without any pay. She is easy and that is why Adam can always have her without putting an effort. She and her nasty legs are always open for Newman men .
    And now we are supposed to believe that Sharon was just a booty call and Adam was moving on with twit Melanie all because Chelsea doesn't want to have anything to do with him. He is drinking and feeling like a lost puppy. Adam is slowly becoming a joke. I don't know how they can make him Victor 2.0 when he barely have any charm.

    Victor has a way with women , he might be old but he always charms the pant off women, Adam comes off as loser, Sharon wants him because no else wants her, she is easy and always will be, Melanie is just a cheap newbie who is also easy to get. Other than that, no other women wants Adam. He only had a real and powerful connection with Chelsea but once Chelsea saw the lies and ugliness and how Adam was manipulating her, she left him. Adam was emotionally and mentally abusing her so she was rightfully justified.
    I can't really blame Chelsea. She was deeply hurt by Adam and how he flaunted that easy mattress wh**e so called cheap nurse frosty finger in the same home they bought and dreamed of building a family in.

    Now as a Chelsea FF, I don't know if I should continue supporting Chadam or pray that my spunky terror move on to a better guy . The more I think about it they more I hate Adam and how he treated the best thing that ever happened to him. This dude has serious issues or mental problems. He let a easy and incest loving sl** destroy his relationship with a young woman who not only is beautiful and spunky and grey but also was his loyal friend and listener when middle aged shareanewman left him all alone while he was blind and at his most vulnerable.

    Despite of knowing that Shadam has destroyed YR a lot in the past 4 years and are a bust for the show, they keep listening to SC and MM and their pimping. In my opinion we viewers deserve better. They can't insult our intelligence with this nasty pairing. All they are good at is doing the nasty in the office. They are all sex and manipulation, no love, only obsession.

    Chelsea made Adam tolerable to me and humanized him a little bit but it is unfair that Chelsea had to be used to redeem Adam. Since we all Sharho couldn't redeem him due to that ugly and nasty history.

    Lord Jesus, I will be soon saying good bye to this show if Chadam doesn't find their way back to each other. Adam needs to do a lot of begging cause he is the cause of this mess. Chelsea might not be a saint but her tricks pale in comparison to Adam and Sharho.

    I will always be Team Chadam and Team Chelsea but I am not an Adam fan. His character is just pure demonic and psycho and has no human quality in him . The only time he was human was when he was married to Chels.

    If the writers wrong us and instead of Chadam, do another boring round of Shadam, then I am done with this show. It would serve them right if the show gets cancelled since they rather pimp their own faves instead of what people or audience wants.


    Good post. I'm an Adam FF, so I've gotta defend my boy...just a bit. He was completely in the wrong for allowing Sharon to mess with his guilt-riddled mind, because that's all it was. He loved his wife, but he let his past with Sharon confuse his feelings. He even admitted to Chelsea that she messes with his mind. He will probably always feel guilty for what he did, and nothing will take that away. He can save everyone in GC, but the guilt over Faith will always be there. He has to learn to live with it, and not let it consume him.

    When he lost Chelsea, his confusion started to ebb, but then he also has these HUGE daddy issues. Lots of people want to condemn him for that, and for being such a whinebag over a useless tool like Victor. Imagine growing up never knowing your father, only to discover your father is this wealthy and powerful billionaire with kids HE RAISED. It would really mess with your self-esteem. Since this revelation was dumped in Adam's lap he has been filled with self-loathing, insecurities, and pain. He wonders why his father didn't want him. It's not enough that Hope didn't want him to know about Victor. He sees how powerful Victor is, and if Victor wanted to be in his life, he would have been. Nothing would have stopped him. Hope just gave him an out.

    Adam has twisted himself into a pretzel to become a Newman. I think it's more out of a desire to prove that he's just as good as them, than his love for them. He has these walls he erects around himself to keep from feeling too much. Chelsea is the ONLY person to crash through those walls. Adam was always weepy and stalkerish with Sharon. He was real with Chelsea. She reached him in ways Sharon never did. He knows this now, but like Jack Abbott, Adam must learn the hard way.

    I'm not trying to excuse his Sharon behavior while married because he was SO WRONG on so many levels, but I get why he did it. As to his obsession with NE, I get that too. I do think Chelsea could have been a little more understanding and compassionate over his issues with Victor and NE, but after the Sharon debacle she had had enough.

    Anyway, sorry for the looooooong post, but I wanted to present Adam's point of view the way I see it.


    I agree. Chelsea lost all Adam's trust and think the worse of him. The love is still there but the trust is gone.

    In regards to Chylan without trust there is no love. Chadam started with trust that turned to love.


    Yes, Chelsea told Adam as part of their New Years reunion about not trusting him and wanting to leave the country. He has to earn her trust, which she will have to earn his back to. She felt humiliated for not being put first with a guy she was and is madly in love with.

    #15527   2013/07/28 10:03AM
    Re: Chadam Fans Only NO BASHING
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    Quote Spike1976:
    Quote cdhg:
    Quote Spike1976:
    Quote cdhg:
    Quote TwoOfEach: NB is Nelson Branco. He's a blogger & writer in Canada. He spoiled Phyllis' exit storyline, Chelsea's ONS with Dylan and Shictor. Sometimes he gets things wrong but not lately. He's been on an anti-Y&R tirade since Michelle Stafford decided to leave the show. He's obsessed with Phick & Shadam and mad that they are both dead. SC, MM & EH are all rumored to be sources of his.

    The tweets about Sharon are just that tweets--we don't know if they are spoilers, rants about the paternity switch or just ravings of a crazy man. My first instinct was spoiler, but since Steve Burton, MCE, Jessica Collins and Josh Morrow all loved whatever scenes were shot on Thursday & Friday I'm going to walk it back and say NB has lost his mind.


    It might be completely unrelated but EB (Victor) has been tweeting about having a great week on set as well--he's truly excited about his upcoming storyline. I hope this means we're getting back to the Y&R I watched with my mom as a kid.


    I wonder if EH has any reasoning for being a source.

    SB, MCE, JC, and JM loving their scenes could be a positive or negative as far as us Chadam fans are concerned. This could be anywhere from positive love and caring scenes, to emotional or angry fight scenes.


    When actors tweet about scenes its usually because it has a lot of emotions and they enjoy scenes when they can sink their teeth into. I wonder if Dylan and Avery had an affair. Dylan going dark could be an affair or kidnapping the child.


    It was posted on here how SC enjoyed the burning down the ranch stuff, and I read where MCE enjoyed break the pictures at the mansion. I believe MM and MCE enjoy the fight scenes, so anything with emotion does tend to give the actors meat to work with. I know that JM mentioned how Hunter King (Summer) can act which was in reference to him telling her about not being her father.


    They are actors, they like to do work that can evoke a lot of emotions
    It's no different when we like to be challenge at work. I'm sure it gets boring playing the same role over and over. They like it when things change. SBu has his loyal fans and they will love him no matter what his character play. I'm sure he wants to play a role different from Jason Morgan. If Dylan goes dark but can be redeemed, he'll probably love it.


    So you do not think it will be scenes about sandwiches, renaming Crimson Lights, talking about spicy food, or telling each other that they both like country music.

    #15528   2013/07/28 10:11AM
    Re: Chadam Fans Only NO BASHING
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    Quote Gemini50:
    Quote justtwocents: For those in the know -- who exactly is NB? I know his name but what is his position? I ask b/c I read somewhere that TPTB has put a tight lid on leaks via tweets. Would NB be allowed to give away such a hint, hoax, or whatever the Sharon/royal baby tweet eluded to?

    Also just read on a different site about how the Chylan wedding doesn't turn out as expected. We've shared many scenarios and although there's nothing foreshadowing this possibility, I'd like to throw it in under the title "A girl can dream, can't she?" : Someone realizes she was never truly divorced from Adam. They're still married!!!


    I would love if CHADAM are still married...never know.
    Someone mentioned on this thread that the marriage documents were never filed...then how would the divorce papers have been possible. Is it b/c they were married in Kansas and divorced in Wisconsin? I would love this to be true. Now that is exciting!!! This girl is going to dream!



    #15529   2013/07/28 10:15AM
    Re: Chadam Fans Only NO BASHING
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    Quote Ari1:
    Quote justtwocents:
    Quote Ari1: This is how I see it. The only thing Dylan has to offer Chelsea is stability. She never has a normal childhood and she wants that fit her child. I think she cares about Dylan but she is madly in love with Adam. As MCE said in her interview Adam and Chelsea were fiery and passionate. I know many think Dylan won't go dark but if he doesn't there is no story. What are he and Chelsea going to do for the next 6 months, talk about baby food? Their story is a dead end. As the writers said no one wants to watch a boring, stable couple. Adam and Chelsea's story is just getting started.



    Makes one wonder what the heck they were thinking pairing Chylan. Yawn!


    I think they've run out of ideas already. How many times can they talk about sandwiches from CL. Don't answer that.

    One of the many things I'm worried about is these writers cannot write romance. I mean they told us that Chylan was going to be sweet love story and it sucked. Navery is boring. There was no spark in Phadam. Summer and Kyle was lame and awkward. The Nictor reunion fizzled. Villy are fighting all the time. Where is the evidence that can do romance. I really don't want Adam and Chelsea talking about superficial bs when they get back together. Maybe that's why we don't see any happy couples bc they don't know how to write romance.



    I forget HOW bad they are at romance until I read posts like this. It's true! Is there one happy/romantic couple? I hope they hire someone who knows what they're doing in the romance department b/f Chadam reunion.

    Why can't they or TPTB see this weakness??

    #15530   2013/07/28 10:17AM
    Re: Chadam Fans Only NO BASHING
    Spike1976
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    Quote jamilah:
    Quote Laduree:
    Quote ChadamEpicLove: Good Morning fellow Chadamanians which are increasing in numbers.

    OMG, This has got to be the most busy and fast thread on this board. I guess Chadam has that kind of spill on us, knowing how they barely share a scene any more. The past 3 months have been a total Chadam drought for us fans. No wonder the July rating is at it's lowest.

    This whole year we have had this fake Chylan so called love story and nasty barf bucket same old boring Shadam. Adam doing booty call with the prostitute of the town Matress w*ore Sharho , boy oh boy I don't know why the writers and SC and MM keep pimping this couple. Don't they realize that a Shadam pairing has been done for the past 3 years and it tanked YR in rating and cause many old loyal fans of the show to say bye bye to YR due to their nastiness and toxicity of that vomit pairing. At least with Chylan, we have a sweet romance even though it is delusional to some extent. Shadam is nasty and same boring storyline over and over again. Adam and Sharon are about sex and then for the afterglow it is the same how we can't be with each other blah blah seriously if you two are that bad for each otehr then stop doing the nasty. Sharon is queen of w***e. She is digusting and is an incest twit. Sleeping with all Newman men Thank god Noah is her son or otherwise she would bang him. I used to love Sharon and Shick and only watched YR because of them but she keep becoming a sex crazed w***e who kept on promising that she will change but in the last 2 decades she is yet to find herself. She is needy, home wrecker, sleeps around all the time, manipulates her own children, is the worse mother considering choosing Adam over Faith and the list goes on and on. SC is a beautiful woman but has no acting ability compared to MS and MCE. The only reason she is still surviving is because she is a vet. She can barely play a supporting cast let alone a leading lady.

    The only reason we viewers are stuck with this boring and non-ending Shadam bull is due to SC and MM pimping it . This whole mess of this pairing started with SC pitching it to the writers and look what this pairing did to her character. Sharon 's downfall was majorly because Shadam. Granted Sharon was always a needy and doormat before Adam but Shadam ruined her character to a point where no amount of writing genius can redeem her.

    Now coming to Adam, the reason I love Chadam is mainly how their story was written and developed, how real and genuine their connection were. How a con and demon like Adam would change each other for the better but Adam in my opinion never really changed. After Riley died, he went demonic again, treating Chelsea like crap, lying to her, helping the ever so miss needy ShareAnewman while his own wife was hurting and was mourning the lose of their child all alone.
    Fine we get it that he has done very awful thing to Sharon and will forever feel guilty for kidnapping her child and blah blah blah but burning half of GC and then burning Chelsea's parents business and then asking your wife to stay mum, this guy in my opinion hasn't really changed. He doesn't love neither Chelsea nor Sharho. He only loves himself. The only two things he cares about his dddy dearest love which he will never get even after taking a bullet for him and NE which soon he will be losing.

    Adam might have graduated from Harvard but his IQ is lower than 13. He let matress who*e come between him and his wife and let Chelsea go because hewanted Sharho but then after Sharho rejected him which is not believable considering how easy she is to have specially to Adam, she even agreed to be his prostitute only without any pay. She is easy and that is why Adam can always have her without putting an effort. She and her nasty legs are always open for Newman men .
    And now we are supposed to believe that Sharon was just a booty call and Adam was moving on with twit Melanie all because Chelsea doesn't want to have anything to do with him. He is drinking and feeling like a lost puppy. Adam is slowly becoming a joke. I don't know how they can make him Victor 2.0 when he barely have any charm.

    Victor has a way with women , he might be old but he always charms the pant off women, Adam comes off as loser, Sharon wants him because no else wants her, she is easy and always will be, Melanie is just a cheap newbie who is also easy to get. Other than that, no other women wants Adam. He only had a real and powerful connection with Chelsea but once Chelsea saw the lies and ugliness and how Adam was manipulating her, she left him. Adam was emotionally and mentally abusing her so she was rightfully justified.
    I can't really blame Chelsea. She was deeply hurt by Adam and how he flaunted that easy mattress wh**e so called cheap nurse frosty finger in the same home they bought and dreamed of building a family in.

    Now as a Chelsea FF, I don't know if I should continue supporting Chadam or pray that my spunky terror move on to a better guy . The more I think about it they more I hate Adam and how he treated the best thing that ever happened to him. This dude has serious issues or mental problems. He let a easy and incest loving sl** destroy his relationship with a young woman who not only is beautiful and spunky and grey but also was his loyal friend and listener when middle aged shareanewman left him all alone while he was blind and at his most vulnerable.

    Despite of knowing that Shadam has destroyed YR a lot in the past 4 years and are a bust for the show, they keep listening to SC and MM and their pimping. In my opinion we viewers deserve better. They can't insult our intelligence with this nasty pairing. All they are good at is doing the nasty in the office. They are all sex and manipulation, no love, only obsession.

    Chelsea made Adam tolerable to me and humanized him a little bit but it is unfair that Chelsea had to be used to redeem Adam. Since we all Sharho couldn't redeem him due to that ugly and nasty history.

    Lord Jesus, I will be soon saying good bye to this show if Chadam doesn't find their way back to each other. Adam needs to do a lot of begging cause he is the cause of this mess. Chelsea might not be a saint but her tricks pale in comparison to Adam and Sharho.

    I will always be Team Chadam and Team Chelsea but I am not an Adam fan. His character is just pure demonic and psycho and has no human quality in him . The only time he was human was when he was married to Chels.

    If the writers wrong us and instead of Chadam, do another boring round of Shadam, then I am done with this show. It would serve them right if the show gets cancelled since they rather pimp their own faves instead of what people or audience wants.


    Good post. I'm an Adam FF, so I've gotta defend my boy...just a bit. He was completely in the wrong for allowing Sharon to mess with his guilt-riddled mind, because that's all it was. He loved his wife, but he let his past with Sharon confuse his feelings. He even admitted to Chelsea that she messes with his mind. He will probably always feel guilty for what he did, and nothing will take that away. He can save everyone in GC, but the guilt over Faith will always be there. He has to learn to live with it, and not let it consume him.

    When he lost Chelsea, his confusion started to ebb, but then he also has these HUGE daddy issues. Lots of people want to condemn him for that, and for being such a whinebag over a useless tool like Victor. Imagine growing up never knowing your father, only to discover your father is this wealthy and powerful billionaire with kids HE RAISED. It would really mess with your self-esteem. Since this revelation was dumped in Adam's lap he has been filled with self-loathing, insecurities, and pain. He wonders why his father didn't want him. It's not enough that Hope didn't want him to know about Victor. He sees how powerful Victor is, and if Victor wanted to be in his life, he would have been. Nothing would have stopped him. Hope just gave him an out.

    Adam has twisted himself into a pretzel to become a Newman. I think it's more out of a desire to prove that he's just as good as them, than his love for them. He has these walls he erects around himself to keep from feeling too much. Chelsea is the ONLY person to crash through those walls. Adam was always weepy and stalkerish with Sharon. He was real with Chelsea. She reached him in ways Sharon never did. He knows this now, but like Jack Abbott, Adam must learn the hard way.

    I'm not trying to excuse his Sharon behavior while married because he was SO WRONG on so many levels, but I get why he did it. As to his obsession with NE, I get that too. I do think Chelsea could have been a little more understanding and compassionate over his issues with Victor and NE, but after the Sharon debacle she had had enough.

    Anyway, sorry for the looooooong post, but I wanted to present Adam's point of view the way I see it.


    ITA Chelsea could have stuck by him even though she didn't agree with him going back to NE. That was just a stupid plot point that they used to break up Chadam. I rewatched the old Chadam scenes when they just got married and Chelsea was very supportive of him when he just went back to NE the first time. They rewrote her feelings towards NE to justify breaking them up.


    I didn't want Chelsea to stick around. I wanted her to drop kick him to the curb until he realized he was wrong for not doing anything possible to help his marriage. If she stuck around, Adam would have taken advantage of her more. Enough is enough.

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