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    Chadam Fans (No Bash)

    Started by Axl Rose at 2012/05/03 02:04PM
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    #14391   2013/07/20 09:23PM
    Re: Chadam Fans Only NO BASHING
    Ari1
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    I many ways what Sharon is doing to her kids right now in order to be with Nick as the same thing she did to Faith in order to be with Adam. What kind of mother would hurt Noah and Faith by tearing their lives apart so she can feel loved. When she couldn't have Nick in the past she had to have Adam which caused her to lose her daughter. She never once considered how her daughter might feel when she was older and learned her mom chose to be with her kidnapper instead of her. Now she thinks it's ok to hurt Noah and Faith and Summer so she can have a man in her life. I bring this up bc I don't see Adam or Chelsea ever doing something like this. I see them being fiercely protective parents. Now that Adam has a child of his own I don't think he will ever look at Sharon in the same way. He and Chelsea wanted the Norman Rockwell family and Sharon doesn't fit into that painting.

    #14392   2013/07/20 09:49PM
    Re: Chadam Fans Only NO BASHING
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    Quote Ari1: I many ways what Sharon is doing to her kids right now in order to be with Nick as the same thing she did to Faith in order to be with Adam. What kind of mother would hurt Noah and Faith by tearing their lives apart so she can feel loved. When she couldn't have Nick in the past she had to have Adam which caused her to lose her daughter. She never once considered how her daughter might feel when she was older and learned her mom chose to be with her kidnapper instead of her. Now she thinks it's ok to hurt Noah and Faith and Summer so she can have a man in her life. I bring this up bc I don't see Adam or Chelsea ever doing something like this. I see them being fiercely protective parents. Now that Adam has a child of his own I don't think he will ever look at Sharon in the same way. He and Chelsea wanted the Norman Rockwell family and Sharon doesn't fit into that painting.


    I see them being fiercely protective parents too. I have a thought though. If Adam finds out he is the father along the same time he finds out about the sight issue one of the first major decisions they may have to make as parents is a risky eye procedure. I could see them discussing how they figure they would be talking about which toys to buy, but instead having to make a critical decision regarding the health of the child.

    The way people besides Nick's children and Jack's family are treating Nick might help regarding Adam forgiving Chelsea. Plus, he has done his share of things too and that did not stop Chelsea from becoming friends and eventually lovers with him just like her past did not affect Adam. I figure he will want her to forgive him too and they will both have a heart to heart explaining their issues and reasons. Adam will need to explain to Chelsea his issues regarding the need for Victor's love just as Chelsea will need to explain her reasons for the baby lie.

    I noticed that in the spoiler regarding the eye specialist that it says for Chelsea's baby, not Chelsea and Adam's or Chelsea and Dylan's. I am not trying to imply that the baby is not Adam's, because it most certainly is. I think the working of Chelsea's baby is important in the spoiler though, because it does not give away whether Dylan and Adam know the truth at that point, or even who is involved besides Chelsea regarding the eye specialist. It sounds like it will involve a good chunk of money for this eye specialist since the casting call mentioned an upscale eye specialist.

    I guess it could be something done by Adam or Victor as a way of finding out whether Adam is the father, but I am not seeing that as the reasoning. I definitely see the specialist confirming bad news regarding the sight issue.

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    #14393   2013/07/20 10:02PM
    Re: Chadam Fans Only NO BASHING
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    Quote cdhg:
    Quote Ari1: I many ways what Sharon is doing to her kids right now in order to be with Nick as the same thing she did to Faith in order to be with Adam. What kind of mother would hurt Noah and Faith by tearing their lives apart so she can feel loved. When she couldn't have Nick in the past she had to have Adam which caused her to lose her daughter. She never once considered how her daughter might feel when she was older and learned her mom chose to be with her kidnapper instead of her. Now she thinks it's ok to hurt Noah and Faith and Summer so she can have a man in her life. I bring this up bc I don't see Adam or Chelsea ever doing something like this. I see them being fiercely protective parents. Now that Adam has a child of his own I don't think he will ever look at Sharon in the same way. He and Chelsea wanted the Norman Rockwell family and Sharon doesn't fit into that painting.


    I see them being fiercely protective parents too. I have a thought though. If Adam finds out he is the father along the same time he finds out about the sight issue one of the first major decisions they may have to make as parents is a risky eye procedure. I could see them discussing how they figure they would be talking about which toys to buy, but instead having to make a critical decision regarding the health of the child.

    The way people besides Nick's children and Jack's family are treating Nick might help regarding Adam forgiving Chelsea. Plus, he has done his share of things too and that did not stop Chelsea from becoming friends and eventually lovers with him just like her past did not affect Adam. I figure he will want her to forgive him too and they will both have a heart to heart explaining their issues and reasons. Adam will need to explain to Chelsea his issues regarding the need for Victor's love just as Chelsea will need to explain her reasons for the baby lie.

    I noticed that in the spoiler regarding the eye specialist that it says for Chelsea's baby, not Chelsea and Adam's or Chelsea and Dylan's. I am not trying to imply that the baby is not Adam's, because it most certainly is. I think the working of Chelsea's baby is important in the spoiler though, because it does not give away whether Dylan and Adam know the truth at that point, or even who is involved besides Chelsea regarding the eye specialist. It sounds like it will involve a good chunk of money for this eye specialist since the casting call mentioned an upscale eye specialist.

    I guess it could be something done by Adam or Victor as a way of finding out whether Adam is the father, but I am not seeing that as the reasoning. I definitely see the specialist confirming bad news regarding the sight issue.


    I hope they reveal that Adam is the father either before the birth or at the birth. This storyline has already been so unbelievable and irritating as it is that to prolong the reveal past those points would just be infuriating. I think like you Chelsea will either have the baby the same date she told Adam she was pregnant last year or that will be the date he finds out it's his. That leaked script that showed Chelsea going into labor prematurely makes me think something happens to cause it. She and Adam might have a fight causing her to go into labor. I would like something like that to happen so Adam can be there for the birth. Adam might find out for sure the baby is his and confront her which causes her to go into labor.

    #14394   2013/07/20 10:05PM
    Re: Chadam Fans Only NO BASHING
    Ari1
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    He could also find out the baby is his at the birth bc it will be 7 months instead of 5 months. She can't hide the fact that she was further along than she's pretending once the baby is born.

    #14395   2013/07/20 10:07PM
    Re: Chadam Fans Only NO BASHING
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    Quote Ari1: I many ways what Sharon is doing to her kids right now in order to be with Nick as the same thing she did to Faith in order to be with Adam. What kind of mother would hurt Noah and Faith by tearing their lives apart so she can feel loved. When she couldn't have Nick in the past she had to have Adam which caused her to lose her daughter. She never once considered how her daughter might feel when she was older and learned her mom chose to be with her kidnapper instead of her. Now she thinks it's ok to hurt Noah and Faith and Summer so she can have a man in her life. I bring this up bc I don't see Adam or Chelsea ever doing something like this. I see them being fiercely protective parents. Now that Adam has a child of his own I don't think he will ever look at Sharon in the same way. He and Chelsea wanted the Norman Rockwell family and Sharon doesn't fit into that painting.


    Of course, Nick's decision was wrong too, with the possibility of affecting so many people. Assuming the second paternity test was accurate before Sharon changed it, Sharon is taking a sister away from Noah and Faith, while keeping a potential couple apart in Kyle and Summer. She is also making Jack believe he is a father, and causing Nick a lot of grief. Then add the grief she is causing Summer and not to mention others.

    The parallel here between Chadam and Shick here is this. Nick emotionally and eventually physically abandoned Sharon after Cassie's death. Besides Faith's paternity lie, Sharon is doing something that is hurting Nick regarding a paternity issue, trying to win him back. This will backfire.

    Adam abandoned Chelsea in a similar way. Now, Chelsea is lying about the paternity. Adam is hurt over the situation, which Chelsea is not trying to intentionally hurt Adam but is afraid of losing the baby. She is not trying to win Adam back. What she is attempting regarding Dylan will backfire. However, her and Adam will end up together. Still, Chelsea is not realizing the effects of the lie.

    In some ways, Dylan is like Nick regarding wanting something to be his, without questioning the truth of the matter.

    The bad thing for Adam and especially for Chelsea they do not have some built in mental excuse or tragic excuse as the others. With Dylan and Sharon we have the PTSD and Bi-Polar card and Nick we have the loss of Cassie card.

    #14396   2013/07/20 10:18PM
    Re: Chadam Fans Only NO BASHING
    Ari1
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    Quote cdhg:
    Quote Ari1: I many ways what Sharon is doing to her kids right now in order to be with Nick as the same thing she did to Faith in order to be with Adam. What kind of mother would hurt Noah and Faith by tearing their lives apart so she can feel loved. When she couldn't have Nick in the past she had to have Adam which caused her to lose her daughter. She never once considered how her daughter might feel when she was older and learned her mom chose to be with her kidnapper instead of her. Now she thinks it's ok to hurt Noah and Faith and Summer so she can have a man in her life. I bring this up bc I don't see Adam or Chelsea ever doing something like this. I see them being fiercely protective parents. Now that Adam has a child of his own I don't think he will ever look at Sharon in the same way. He and Chelsea wanted the Norman Rockwell family and Sharon doesn't fit into that painting.


    Of course, Nick's decision was wrong too, with the possibility of affecting so many people. Assuming the second paternity test was accurate before Sharon changed it, Sharon is taking a sister away from Noah and Faith, while keeping a potential couple apart in Kyle and Summer. She is also making Jack believe he is a father, and causing Nick a lot of grief. Then add the grief she is causing Summer and not to mention others.

    The parallel here between Chadam and Shick here is this. Nick emotionally and eventually physically abandoned Sharon after Cassie's death. Besides Faith's paternity lie, Sharon is doing something that is hurting Nick regarding a paternity issue, trying to win him back. This will backfire.

    Adam abandoned Chelsea in a similar way. Now, Chelsea is lying about the paternity. Adam is hurt over the situation, which Chelsea is not trying to intentionally hurt Adam but is afraid of losing the baby. She is not trying to win Adam back. What she is attempting regarding Dylan will backfire. However, her and Adam will end up together. Still, Chelsea is not realizing the effects of the lie.

    In some ways, Dylan is like Nick regarding wanting something to be his, without questioning the truth of the matter.

    The bad thing for Adam and especially for Chelsea they do not have some built in mental excuse or tragic excuse as the others. With Dylan and Sharon we have the PTSD and Bi-Polar card and Nick we have the loss of Cassie card.


    I think they can use the excuse of losing the first baby. After the miscarriage they both went into a tail spin. Adam buried himself in work and is still doing this. It's obvious that he hasn't ever gotten over it. It's also his excuse for staying away from Chelsea. I remember him telling Sharon that he thought the miscarriage was karma for his past sins. I think he's keeping his distance bc he doesn't want his karma to hurt this baby. Chelsea's excuse is a bit weak. I think she doesn't think Adam wants her bc he pretty much abandoned her so she's just trying to make the best out of the situation.

    #14397   2013/07/20 10:28PM
    Re: Chadam Fans Only NO BASHING
    Ari1
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    I also think Chelsea thinks Adam chose the dysfunctional Newman family over her and their Norman Rockwell family.

    #14398   2013/07/20 10:51PM
    Re: Chadam Fans Only NO BASHING
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    I am thinking Dylan will not be that loving towards Chelsea after finding out the truth, which is something that I know many of us concur on. Now, Chelsea may pull away from him on her own after childbirth and having different feelings, but I see Dylan being upset since he will not know if anything that she told him regarding her feelings was even true. He may think everything was a lie and will be disappointed he stayed in town and bought a warehouse and business while squandering his father's money. His financial issues will get to him as well. He will not like being married based on a lie.

    Some of this stuff he has told Avery about keeping secret for protection, plus the way he opened up to Chelsea with her keeping such a big secret and continuing the lie to protect it, just will not sit well with him. He is already being affected by opening up and is become more defensive and unhappy.

    Adam, on the other hand, will be more understanding over time. It may take him some time to process things. His overcoming the lie and forgiving it, will be part of the reasoning for the reunite. I do not blame him for being upset and letting Chelsea having it after the birth. If Adam finds out or is told about being the father due to the eye gene/sight issue, he may feel he was told only because the lie could no longer be kept, and thus be upset. He will be upset by the lengths Chelsea went to for someone else and to go against him, but based on things he has done, he will not be that upset for too long IMO.

    Adam has been choosing his daddy for a while, while Chelsea has been choosing a different baby daddy for a while.

    Now, if Dylan does end up with Sharon next, when she is guilty of lying too, then that will be interesting regarding how that is reconciled and justified by Dylan. I guess the excuse of mental issues triumph.

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    #14399   2013/07/21 06:39AM
    Re: Chadam Fans Only NO BASHING
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    I've been watching old Chelsea/Chadam clips. When she gave up Johnny, she told the babe that she wanted him not to be used and to always feel love. Chelsea was used by Victor...well paid. Could her entire motivation be about keeping this baby free of Victor and Adam's groveling to daddy. There was a scene where Victoria told Chels that Adam will want to use their baby to garner more of Victor's good graces. Could this fake baby daddy thing be that simple?


    Problem with that is the Summer reveal will reinforce that fear in Chelsea rather than open her eyes. The Newmans will come across as all users. With Phyllis being incapacitated, there is less of a likelihood of Chelsea seeing Summer and what a daddy lies does to her.

    I think our best hope will be Victoria spilling the beans to daddy dearest. In my mind Adam is 95% sure that child is his, but he won't upset Chelsea in fear of her losing this one. So my guess is Victor goes on the warpath, and Adam tries to prevent it.

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    #14400   2013/07/21 07:08AM
    Re: Chadam Fans Only NO BASHING
    Ari1
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    Quote gardengal: I've been watching old Chelsea/Chadam clips. When she gave up Johnny, she told the babe that she wanted him not to be used and to always feel love. Chelsea was used by Victor...well paid. Could her entire motivation be about keeping this baby free of Victor and Adam's groveling to daddy. There was a scene where Victoria told Chels that Adam will want to use their baby to garner more of Victor's good graces. Could this fake baby daddy thing be that simple?


    Problem with that is the Summer reveal will reinforce that fear in Chelsea rather than open her eyes. The Newmans will come across as all users. With Phyllis being incapacitated, there is less of a likelihood of Chelsea seeing Summer and what a daddy lies does to her.

    I think our best hope will be Victoria spilling the beans to daddy dearest. In my mind Adam is 95% sure that child is his, but he won't upset Chelsea in fear of her losing this one. So my guess is Victor goes on the warpath, and Adam tries to prevent it.



    I just thought of a reason why she might think Adam would take the baby. Maybe she thinks Victor will try and influence him into taking the baby. I can see him saying " you don't want that two bit con raising your child." Remember how Vicky promised Chelsea that she could be a part of Johnny's life and she hasn't thus far let her. She knows what a strong hold Victor has over his children. Adam was not in the family fold when they got together so maybe now that he is, she thinks they'll try and cut her out of the baby's life just like they did Johnny's.

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