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Lost Kritters Refuge & Club House/No bash please
Started by Blue 501 at 2011/03/14 12:19PMLatest post: 2013/06/18 09:48AM, Views: 213160, Replies: 10203
annal |
Quote Blue 501: Hi Annal, it is so good to see you posting a little. I guess you are resting up and are feeling better, perhaps? How soon do you have to travel to London? i leave on the 25th of this month for 3 weeks.if things go good after the first week i could leave earlier.but i can be home for my birthday thats always good.
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Blue 501 |
Quote annal: Quote Blue 501: Hi Annal, it is so good to see you posting a little. I guess you are resting up and are feeling better, perhaps? How soon do you have to travel to London? i leave on the 25th of this month for 3 weeks.if things go good after the first week i could leave earlier.but i can be home for my birthday thats always good. Please keep us informed, if possible. A lot of folks will be praying for you. I hope you get to take your little boy to visit a fire house this summer or in the fall. I keep imagining him in a little fire hat & coat. (((Hugs))). |
habbyfan |
I am following you around Blue ... I agree with you and Lucy,the boards are crazy, |
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Blue 501 |
Quote habbyfan: I am following you around Blue ... I agree with you and Lucy,the boards are crazy, I am so sorry to hear about Wombie,I so liked to read her posts.Be well all! I too ... have been busy with an ancestor of my husband's he appears in an 1851 Census of lower Canada,as a servant to a very well known judge,he was 20 years old,born in England,no other information.The problem is there are no immigration records to speak of prior to 1865,since Canada only became a nation in 1867,that whole family are loyalist(easy to find as the U.S has great records) with the exception of this one side, all were soldiers from Britian and Irish immigrants who were fleeing the famine. As my Mama was want to say ("keeps you out of the poolhall darling") Onward and upward! Hi Habby. I wish we were working on some of the same stuff. Do you have any idea what the term "the Highland Clearances" could mean? I ran across the term last night on a Duplin Co, NC msg board. Chick said the town of Wallace was partly settled by Scotsmen who were given land grants from Gov Johnston (18th century) as part of the Highland Clearances. I will try googling it. My guess is that maybe they were trying to relocate some of the Scottish rebels to cut down on the fighting. I remember hearing in grade school that the Scots who settled around Cumberland Co, NC (Fayetteville) had to sign a loyalty oath not to take up arms against the British again, which forced them to be loyalists & fight their new neighbors here. What a predicament. You know they would have loved to jump in on "our side". I think there is a lot of Scottish blood in Southerners & I have no doubt our "rebel yell" would have been recognized in the highlands. I think that is where our fighting spirit came from too. (There is some in me too. Urban Frazer Wilson was my gggf. Lowland perhaps, but there are two Wilson tartans-one old style and one new. I read that the plaid was prohibited for so long that some patterns were forgotten or nearly so). I went to the Highland Games at Grandfather Mountain one summer & had such a good time & one year at the Eno Festival they had a Celtic band playing battlefield type music with mostly bagpipes & big drums. I felt as if every hair on my head was going to stand on end. Really loved it. It was raining but it did not seem to bother the band & I pick rainy days to go. It's a July 4 festival & it's too hot when the sun is out. I used to always go, even the summer of my spinal surgery. The money collected goes to buy up more land along the Eno River for parkland. |
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habbyfan |
Quote Blue 501: Quote habbyfan: I am following you around Blue ... I agree with you and Lucy,the boards are crazy, I am so sorry to hear about Wombie,I so liked to read her posts.Be well all! I too ... have been busy with an ancestor of my husband's he appears in an 1851 Census of lower Canada,as a servant to a very well known judge,he was 20 years old,born in England,no other information.The problem is there are no immigration records to speak of prior to 1865,since Canada only became a nation in 1867,that whole family are loyalist(easy to find as the U.S has great records) with the exception of this one side, all were soldiers from Britian and Irish immigrants who were fleeing the famine. As my Mama was want to say ("keeps you out of the poolhall darling") Onward and upward! Hi Habby. I wish we were working on some of the same stuff. Do you have any idea what the term "the Highland Clearances" could mean? I ran across the term last night on a Duplin Co, NC msg board. Chick said the town of Wallace was partly settled by Scotsmen who were given land grants from Gov Johnston (18th century) as part of the Highland Clearances. I will try googling it. My guess is that maybe they were trying to relocate some of the Scottish rebels to cut down on the fighting. I remember hearing in grade school that the Scots who settled around Cumberland Co, NC (Fayetteville) had to sign a loyalty oath not to take up arms against the British again, which forced them to be loyalists & fight their new neighbors here. What a predicament. You know they would have loved to jump in on "our side". I think there is a lot of Scottish blood in Southerners & I have no doubt our "rebel yell" would have been recognized in the highlands. I think that is where our fighting spirit came from too. (There is some in me too. Urban Frazer Wilson was my gggf. Lowland perhaps, but there are two Wilson tartans-one old style and one new. I read that the plaid was prohibited for so long that some patterns were forgotten or nearly so). I went to the Highland Games at Grandfather Mountain one summer & had such a good time & one year at the Eno Festival they had a Celtic band playing battlefield type music with mostly bagpipes & big drums. I felt as if every hair on my head was going to stand on end. Really loved it. It was raining but it did not seem to bother the band & I pick rainy days to go. It's a July 4 festival & it's too hot when the sun is out. I used to always go, even the summer of my spinal surgery. The money collected goes to buy up more land along the Eno River for parkland. Blue ... strange you should bring this up,my daughter and I were discussing this last weekend.As I told you this was the heritage of my late husband therefore her bloodline and not my own.I began this research for my children who knew nothing of their paternal history,the scotish soldiers came to Canada as part of the British defense of Canada from the U.S.A in the late 1700s after the revolution.The British had fallen back to Canada. Upon completion of service they were given land to farm in Canada,they were not wanted back in Britian. the clearances went on in Scotland for hundreds of years,sometimes whole villages were burned and murdered to clear the land for the landowners.At times young children were rounded up and sold to landowners in the US as indentured servants,they worked the tobacco farms for a period of years and if they survived X number of years they would be freed.The Scots were sent to Ireland to keep Ireland true to King and Country,these were all ways of ridding Britian of a problem.That is what the Scots were to the British. When I was telling her of the family of soldiers and the amount of land they owned 44 acres of farmland,she brought up the clearances and how it was all tied together. |
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Blue 501 |
Quote habbyfan: Quote Blue 501: Quote habbyfan: I am following you around Blue ... I agree with you and Lucy,the boards are crazy, I am so sorry to hear about Wombie,I so liked to read her posts.Be well all! I too ... have been busy with an ancestor of my husband's he appears in an 1851 Census of lower Canada,as a servant to a very well known judge,he was 20 years old,born in England,no other information.The problem is there are no immigration records to speak of prior to 1865,since Canada only became a nation in 1867,that whole family are loyalist(easy to find as the U.S has great records) with the exception of this one side, all were soldiers from Britian and Irish immigrants who were fleeing the famine. As my Mama was want to say ("keeps you out of the poolhall darling") Onward and upward! Hi Habby. I wish we were working on some of the same stuff. Do you have any idea what the term "the Highland Clearances" could mean? I ran across the term last night on a Duplin Co, NC msg board. Chick said the town of Wallace was partly settled by Scotsmen who were given land grants from Gov Johnston (18th century) as part of the Highland Clearances. I will try googling it. My guess is that maybe they were trying to relocate some of the Scottish rebels to cut down on the fighting. I remember hearing in grade school that the Scots who settled around Cumberland Co, NC (Fayetteville) had to sign a loyalty oath not to take up arms against the British again, which forced them to be loyalists & fight their new neighbors here. What a predicament. You know they would have loved to jump in on "our side". I think there is a lot of Scottish blood in Southerners & I have no doubt our "rebel yell" would have been recognized in the highlands. I think that is where our fighting spirit came from too. (There is some in me too. Urban Frazer Wilson was my gggf. Lowland perhaps, but there are two Wilson tartans-one old style and one new. I read that the plaid was prohibited for so long that some patterns were forgotten or nearly so). I went to the Highland Games at Grandfather Mountain one summer & had such a good time & one year at the Eno Festival they had a Celtic band playing battlefield type music with mostly bagpipes & big drums. I felt as if every hair on my head was going to stand on end. Really loved it. It was raining but it did not seem to bother the band & I pick rainy days to go. It's a July 4 festival & it's too hot when the sun is out. I used to always go, even the summer of my spinal surgery. The money collected goes to buy up more land along the Eno River for parkland. Blue ... strange you should bring this up,my daughter and I were discussing this last weekend.As I told you this was the heritage of my late husband therefore her bloodline and not my own.I began this research for my children who knew nothing of their paternal history,the scotish soldiers came to Canada as part of the British defense of Canada from the U.S.A in the late 1700s after the revolution.The British had fallen back to Canada. Upon completion of service they were given land to farm in Canada,they were not wanted back in Britian. the clearances went on in Scotland for hundreds of years,sometimes whole villages were burned and murdered to clear the land for the landowners.At times young children were rounded up and sold to landowners in the US as indentured servants,they worked the tobacco farms for a period of years and if they survived X number of years they would be freed.The Scots were sent to Ireland to keep Ireland true to King and Country,these were all ways of ridding Britian of a problem.That is what the Scots were to the British. When I was telling her of the family of soldiers and the amount of land they owned 44 acres of farmland,she brought up the clearances and how it was all tied together. Thanks. I had a feeling you would know. Much worse than I thought. It gives me a cold chill. I guess Braveheart & the other movie about the Scots, the one with Liam Neeson, were not so far off the mark at all. There has been so much suffering thru the ages. A lot of us have fairly nice lives now but the ordinary people sometimes suffered terribly in the past (and some still do. It hurts my heart to know that 1/5 of the children in North Carolina sometimes go hungry). Life for the common folk seems to have been particularly bad in countries where nearly all the land was owned by the aristocracy. I hope we never see that in our country. Or never again. The indentured servants were sometimes treated brutally. I read a court case in Virginia where an old man was beaten with a dried bull pizzle so severely that he died of his injuries and it was for "stealing" a biscuit from the kitchen. His last name was one of my family surnames but it is a common one. However, one of my known relatives was a juror on a case where a female indentured servant accused her "master" of raping her & not giving her any clothes or shoes to wear so that she had to work outside in freezing conditions barely clad. My ancestor advised her to drop the charges b/c based on past experience, she would not be believed and "it will go the worst for ye". The rapist & the one who beat the old man to death were the same man, know as "the meanest man on the Eastern Shore". I really got an eyeful from some of those 17th century court cases. |
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Blue 501 |
To make it even worse, women who had illegitimate children were usually punished for it, sometimes by whipping. The kind of whipping that can cut a back all to pieces. How could the woman avoid getting pregnant if it was the land owner to whom she was indentured who raped her? What choice did she have? Sometimes the man, if his identity was known, was whipped too but more often, he just paid a fine & he was off the hook, especially if he was a wealthy land owner. |
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habbyfan |
Yes Blue,I always tell people when they ask about my interest in Ancestry,you don't always like what you find.I also tell my children "Don't Shoot the Messenger" Me. |
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Blue 501 |
Quote habbyfan: Yes Blue,I always tell people when they ask about my interest in Ancestry,you don't always like what you find.I also tell my children "Don't Shoot the Messenger" Me. You are so right times were so brutal.We are very fortunate. I wish you were close by so we could compare. So do I. A bunch of friends I knew only from the internet got together 7 or 8 years ago & we went to Salt Lake City for a week. It was a lot of fun & I came back with reams of new stuff. And, we still speak to one another. 
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grammylove |
Blue & Habby, I so love the ancestry posts. Please continue. |
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