Quote Blue 501
Quote Blue 501: Dobrai Denh! I brought beer, tortilla chips, and two bowls of salsa: hot for me & medium for the rest of you.
And I brought a tidbit of history that thrills me. They have documented the remains of a Spanish fort near Morganton, NC that predates the Lost Colony by 20 years. It was built in 1567. I was aware there was an early Spanish settlement at Georgetown, South Carolina, largely because a friend of mine wrote his history thesis on it but did not know the Spanish had established settlements in NC. They think there may have been six of them but this is the first one they have proved. They think it was wiped out by the Indians. Like the English settlers, the Spanish expected to be fed by the Indians but they ran out of things to trade for food. I imagine they resorted to violence against the Indians, to take what they wanted, and their settlements were destroyed by the Indians. If the colonists had listened to the lessons the Indians tried to teach them, they would have had plenty of food. For instance, the coastal Indians taught the English how to make the nets they used to catch fish in abundance but the English insisted on catching them one at a time on a line. Hard to feed a whole colony like that, even if it was more "fun" to do it that way. Oysters were so abundant you could walk across a lot of rivers at low tide w/o getting your shoes wet by stepping on the oysters. The Indians smoked & dried fish & oysters in the summer & fall. The Europeans could have done that too but they were too busy hunting for gold. Once they had shot & killed some locals, it was hard for them to forage without getting filled with arrows. Poor management!
Love your history stories Blue...The Wampanoags had similar stories here with the settlers....but I'm not as versed in the legends as you. Wish i were.....
I have a small obsession with the North Carolina Indians so I have been studying them for a very long time. As an amateur of course, though I would have enjoyed helping out with digs if my vacation time had been more flexible. I have some family connections to the earliest colonies and, you have probably heard me say before, I feel I have Indian ancestry on at least three separate lines.
It is very tedious work. A friend (sixth cousin) was an archeologist and did some work in Central America. He says he worked for beans, slept in a hammock, & developed an addiction to Kaopectate. He went back to school & went into Pharmacy.
You go over a grid of ground with dental tools, sieves, etc., so you will not miss a single thing. Not so much as a nut hull or seed.
It is thrilling when you finally find some proof though, like a signet ring that can be traced to an early Nobleman. They have been working on the Cuenco settlement & Fort San Juan site for nearly 30 years & finally found the fort itself, usually identified by post marks (usually darker than the surrounding earth).
North Carolina is probably filled with treasures such as this but very hard to get the funds to excavate them, plus they are usually on someone's farm. No telling how many sites have just been paved over. OT, they recently found Richard III's remains under a parking lot in England. (I think it was III, the one who was Duke of Gloucester who was king for a couple of years, during which time his two nephews (the Princes in the Tower) disappeared forever. They were in line for the throne but he had them declared illegitimate. If he is the one who killed them, he might as well have let them live. In a couple of years, he was dead (at Bosworth Field?) & Henry Tudor (Henry VI?) was on the throne. Sorry, too lazy to look everything up & verify it. If anyone wants to correct me, please chime in. I will not be offended in the least.