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    Psych treatment

    Started by themama at 2007/02/28 01:46PM
    Latest post: 2007/03/01 09:30AM, Views: 1003, Replies: 39
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    #31   2007/02/28 10:43PM
    Re: Psych treatment
    gommie
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    Quote Watching Since 1973: Years ago I worked with mental health clients and my heart goes out to them. Here facilities are limited. Most just end up in jail or on the street. True medications are getting better, however it can take time to find the right balance. I liked seeing mental health portrayed as part of the story line, however I think the writers could have done with out Nurse Rachet. It's bad enough without adding this stereotype .




    In the old days we used electric shock therapy--every tuesday and thursday they were lined up outside the 'treatment room' -course that was an institution for the mentally insane-that is an experience that stays with you for the rest of your life I guess...

    #32   2007/02/28 11:27PM
    Re: Psych treatment
    Gwendo
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    About laws:

    Every state is different. In California, you can be kept for 72 hours, then a hearing is held where you it is decided if you are a threat to yourself, others, or unable to provide basic needs (shelter, food) to yourself. Then, you can be kept for 14 days. After that, another hearing is held for one more month and that is the max. Period! And it is pretty hard to keep people as sane as Dru for longer than 72 hours.

    I am a nursing student and have been on the hospital psych ward (very nice) and the County Psychiatric Facility (where many patients are inmates who are unable to stand trial) and most are VERY sick. It is a creepy place and there is an "isolation" room where there is a cot w/ restraints bolted to the cement floor in the middle of the room. There are no blankets, nothing in the room at all except video cameras on the ceiling for monitoring. It looks worse than where Dru was. HOWEVER, it is very hard legally to keep someone in there and Y&Rs portrayal is more like a County facility than a hospital. And in the county facilities, there usually isn't someone rational enough to hold a conversation like Dru's "new friend."

    #33   2007/03/01 03:33AM
    Re: Psych treatment
    Kasha
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    Do you know if the patients are allowed to refuse medication that makes them sick??? or like a zombie????



    There is a patient bill of rights which allow each of us as patients certain rights.
    Refusing meds would depend on the situation. For instance, is the patient an imminent danger to others or himself? Is he "out of control" physically--aggressive? Is he an elopement risk? Is he psychotic(out of touch with reality)?

    Or is the patient just complaining about dizziness, which could then be monitored by taking lying/sitting/standing bloodpressures and reassessed as needed? Complaints of nauseau/diarrhea-would again be something objective a health professional can record and reassess. Definitely, not all meds are right for each person--just like bloodpressure meds or any other meds that need tweaking. Side effects exist for all.
    These are being monitored by nurses and doctors and in this particular case more closely so since the person in question is hospitalized. So this patient's subjective and objective behavior is being closely watched.
    My take on yesterday's show--it went way overboard(as dramatic soaps can do!) in portraying Dru butting into a situation where she had no place being(the other patients refusing meds--she really didn't know the person or her history) and the incredible lack of sensitivity and quickness to jump in an make rash judgements of the charge nurse.
    I truly am hoping Y&R is going to change directions with this mental health portrayal and use it's forum to educate the public and not abuse the worst case scenarios out there.

    #34   2007/03/01 03:46AM
    Re: Psych treatment
    CandyLane5
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    THX Kasha for answering my question... I didnt think about the side effects... I was thinking they used people as guinea pigs.... as for any drug you just keep trying till it works for the patient... I know I went through several different blood pressure pills till my DR found the right one for me.. until then I was dizzy and tired, etc...

    BUT as for Dru they had to show 'Nurse Ratchet', the wrong medication for 'Mary', which provoked Dru and the fight or else Dru would already be back home... I think Dru is going to be in there for awhile now....
    Is this Mary... Sheila's daughter?????

    #35   2007/03/01 03:52AM
    Re: Psych treatment
    OspreyGirl
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    Ummm...aren't the Winters well off financial wise? Why wouldn't Neil send Dru to some resort/upscale mental 'refreshment' facility instead? This doesn't make any sense for her to be placed in a hospital ward, she is not a danger to society, Dru is just extremely stressed out, and who wouldn't be after what David Chow has done...this is a dumb storyline. I still don't understand why Dru can't be released by her own husband---she is not a minor, and if she voluntarily checked herself in, why can't she leave on her own free will? This whole straight jacket/psych ward thing is stereotypical of what popular culture has presented mental treatment centers to be, and it's a dang shame that Dru has been put in this setting...tsk tsk tsk...

    #36   2007/03/01 04:09AM
    Re: Psych treatment
    CandyLane5
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    Quote OspreyGirl: Ummm...aren't the Winters well off financial wise? Why wouldn't Neil send Dru to some resort/upscale mental 'refreshment' facility instead? This doesn't make any sense for her to be placed in a hospital ward, she is not a danger to society, Dru is just extremely stressed out, and who wouldn't be after what David Chow has done...this is a dumb storyline. I still don't understand why Dru can't be released by her own husband---she is not a minor, and if she voluntarily checked herself in, why can't she leave on her own free will? This whole straight jacket/psych ward thing is stereotypical of what popular culture has presented mental treatment centers to be, and it's a dang shame that Dru has been put in this setting...tsk tsk tsk...


    That's extremely true ..about the upscale home they could have taken her to... but I think they didnt know this could happen, and they wanted her to be close to her therapist whom she has been seeing since last year....
    But I dont know.. I am speaking to you from Floor 13, Room 6, and Bed 3....

    #37   2007/03/01 07:17AM
    Re: Psych treatment
    gommie
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    Quote CandyLane5:
    Quote OspreyGirl: Ummm...aren't the Winters well off financial wise? Why wouldn't Neil send Dru to some resort/upscale mental 'refreshment' facility instead? This doesn't make any sense for her to be placed in a hospital ward, she is not a danger to society, Dru is just extremely stressed out, and who wouldn't be after what David Chow has done...this is a dumb storyline. I still don't understand why Dru can't be released by her own husband---she is not a minor, and if she voluntarily checked herself in, why can't she leave on her own free will? This whole straight jacket/psych ward thing is stereotypical of what popular culture has presented mental treatment centers to be, and it's a dang shame that Dru has been put in this setting...tsk tsk tsk...


    That's extremely true ..about the upscale home they could have taken her to... but I think they didnt know this could happen, and they wanted her to be close to her therapist whom she has been seeing since last year....LOL


    Ah yes,the engaging dr.lynch


    But I dont know.. I am speaking to you from Floor 13, Room 6, and Bed 3....


    LOL LOL figures..LOL

    #38   2007/03/01 07:37AM
    Re: Psych treatment
    Bellydancing...
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    Quote gommie:
    Quote Watching Since 1973: Years ago I worked with mental health clients and my heart goes out to them. Here facilities are limited. Most just end up in jail or on the street. True medications are getting better, however it can take time to find the right balance. I liked seeing mental health portrayed as part of the story line, however I think the writers could have done with out Nurse Rachet. It's bad enough without adding this stereotype .




    In the old days we used electric shock therapy--every tuesday and thursday they were lined up outside the 'treatment room' -course that was an institution for the mentally insane-that is an experience that stays with you for the rest of your life I guess...


    I am just glad they don't do lobotomies(sp) anymore!@

    I feel for Dru so much!It seems every move she makes lately is a mistake, including agreeing to be voluntarily committed. It almost seemed like her Dr. was very eager for this to happen as well. I wish Neil would have seen the Carmen look alike a day earlier I hope this isnt the way the writers plan to see VR off, even though her acting has been supberb. Her eyes look so lost and defeated. It makes you realize how quickly something like that could happen to even you, if the stress level was out of control.

    #39   2007/03/01 08:18AM
    Re: Psych treatment
    nurse_magoo
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    Quote CandyLane5:
    Quote themama: I don't know what state CandyLane5 lives in, but most states have you sign in for a 72 hr. evaluation. Then they
    decide if you need to stay longer or go home. They very rarely keep anyone more that a couple of weeks unless they remain a danger to themselves or others. Once a patient petitions for release, they must be heard in court for disposition within 5 days. The goal is always safety, and patient dignity is very important. The last resort is transfer to a state hospital for a matter of weeks til they can be managed as an outpatient. Knowledge is so important here. And of course the proper medication and therapy. Thanks for listening.



    In answer to your question.. In TEXAS when you check yourself in or are committed... you have to stay there for 7 days... after the 7 days THEY (the state) decide if you can leave or not...if not you go to the State Hospital for 6 months, then THEY decide if you can leave then or not... NOW about Dru ..Neil tried to get her out, then she attemped to leave on her own, then got into another's patients business concerning medication...that's 3 attempts... If they let Dru leave in 72 hours I will be surprised... the Gumby Suit... was because she is a flight risk... and because of the fight...but that is TEXAS....I am sure that the writers did their research before starting this story line...


    Wow ! I don't know what part of Texas you are from but this is not true in AUSTIN Texas. If you voluntarily sign yourself in you are under observation for 72 hours. 2nd you would never be turned into a committed patient unless there was a hearing with you having the right to representation. 3rd no way would anyone be placed in that jacket! They are not legal in this state. If you need to be restrained there are soft mechanical restraints that are used on the wrist and the ankles and these CANNOT be used without a doctors order. Next if you do get an order often times it is for arms only or legs only or 1 of each. Very very rarely do you get all 4. Next you have to release that person every hour for bathroom privledges and also to allow them to move the extremities. You are so right in the fact that knowledge is important and often times the lack there of is unacceptable.

    #40   2007/03/01 09:30AM
    Re: Psych treatment
    Brendasue
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    Quote nyaccent: I wonder if it is a TRUE fact that if you voluntarily sign yourself into a mental institution, you may not be able to sign yourself out. If so that is VERY SCARY.


    mkes me wonder too and ya its scary thought

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