I wish I could smack that smug look off Liz's fac.

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Re: I wish I could smack that smug look off Liz's fac.

Postby Monkey Mama » Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:25 pm

Quote genhospchat:
Quote oltllover: I agree Liz had no choice if she was subpoenaed, but I don't understand why Diane didn't question her all she had to do was ask Liz if she thought that past bad deeds justified taking away a child and since Liz has been no angel and certainly would never want her children taken away from her because of a long list of things she has done then her answer would be NO a mother should have her child and that would be be that.


Liz was called as a witness, her opinion doesn't matter to the care. This is about facts, not what witnesses think. Now what Diane should have done was asked Liz her relationship with Maxie now and how Liz feels about Maxie now, to try to show change in Maxie.


Exactly! It would be different if Liz saw Maxie being abusive towards this baby or even any baby. But to be a bad person & taking a break-up very VERY poorly 10 years ago has NOTHING to do with Maxie being a Mother NOW.

If that's the case Maxie can argue that Lulu is a baby killer & Connie is in danger if she becomes an inconvenience to Lulu.

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Re: I wish I could smack that smug look off Liz's fac.

Postby melirose » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:21 pm

Quote Monkey Mama:
Quote genhospchat:
Quote oltllover: I agree Liz had no choice if she was subpoenaed, but I don't understand why Diane didn't question her all she had to do was ask Liz if she thought that past bad deeds justified taking away a child and since Liz has been no angel and certainly would never want her children taken away from her because of a long list of things she has done then her answer would be NO a mother should have her child and that would be be that.


Liz was called as a witness, her opinion doesn't matter to the care. This is about facts, not what witnesses think. Now what Diane should have done was asked Liz her relationship with Maxie now and how Liz feels about Maxie now, to try to show change in Maxie.


Exactly! It would be different if Liz saw Maxie being abusive towards this baby or even any baby. But to be a bad person & taking a break-up very VERY poorly 10 years ago has NOTHING to do with Maxie being a Mother NOW.

If that's the case Maxie can argue that Lulu is a baby killer & Connie is in danger if she becomes an inconvenience to Lulu.


I'm all for Maxie getting custody of their baby. HOWEVER i don't agree with some of the comments on here pretty much saying that Lulu is a baby killer and that should be used in court. I remember that storyline very clearly and Lulu is far from a baby killer. Let's not forget at the time Lulu was still 16 and dealing with the fact that she needed to make such a hard decision at a young age. I also remember thinking that GH was trying to focus on a very sensitive issue. THAT should not be an argument in court about why Lulu is not fit.

AS far a Lulu actions, judging from last night's episode it seems that Lulu is going to use Robin's death as another example of carelessness is also f*cked up. That's unfair and disrespectful of the "dead" who loved Maxie as her little sister. Maxie went through a lot to get over the fact Robin's death was not her fault. Plus Robin would have NEVER agreed with Maxie that her "death" is Maxie's fault.

Unfortunately this is going to get even uglier and who knows if their friendship will ever be repaired after this.

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Re: I wish I could smack that smug look off Liz's fac.

Postby Insxx » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:32 pm

Quote ransomha: Liz actually looked pained to testify. I saw no joy in her face at all. And everything she said was true.

When another woman gives your husband drugs, sleeps with him , then fakes a pregnancy, it doesn't matter what she's done in her life, that is still something she would never forgive or forget.

I'm on Maxie's side but, if Liz was subpoenaed , she had no choice.


Suppose no one ever forgave Liz?She did the same thing that Maxie did when Lucky was married to someone else, except she checked herself in the mental ward. In the time all that was going down, Liz was bust trapping Jason. At the time she was all about getting another man. Of all the people to call Liz was a joke.ITA she is annoying and dumb and she acts as if PC men owe her something because she have lived there for a while. With that outfit she had on I have no ideal she would try to be prissy.She helped with drugs for Lucky also(he was Married)but of course she favor words, we have history and I know him. Girl, the world is round, and they have planes,trains and etc.

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Re: I wish I could smack that smug look off Liz's fac.

Postby Insxx » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:34 pm

Quote jl4ever: Liz did not look in the least bit happy that she was in the courtroom and only responded to Alexis question. As to why Liz was not cross examined by Diane, that's on the HW and not the character.


She never looks happy. She always look like she smell something unpleasant.I seen nothing different in the way she usually look,like she smell something and that probably herself.

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Re: I wish I could smack that smug look off Liz's fac.

Postby texas beauty » Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:00 pm

Quote fairygirl69: Her character is so annoying prissy and holier than thou! How dare she judge after all the wrong she's done?! And why isn't Maxie allowed to defend herself. In a court of law both parties would be allowed to have their say!


I,m new on soaps, but I do watch gh, I totally agree, I cannot stand liz

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Re: I wish I could smack that smug look off Liz's fac.

Postby texas beauty » Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:02 pm

I agree 100 percent. liz is so fakey,

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Re: I wish I could smack that smug look off Liz's fac.

Postby jl4ever » Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:37 pm

Alexis could not call Lucky to the stand since he's snotting his way across Ireland or is it Africa these days? So, Liz was ordered to testify what Maxie did to her and Lucky's marriage. Maxie then confirmed that she DID indeed destroyed LnL666's marriage and family with Cam.

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Re: I wish I could smack that smug look off Liz's fac.

Postby bellasmema » Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:02 pm

I don't understand why Diane is doing anything!!! Lulu and Liz should also be thrown under the bus!!!

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Re: I wish I could smack that smug look off Liz's fac.

Postby bellasmema » Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:05 pm

When she lied on the adoption papers she was basically declared an UNFIT PARENT!!! so why should they be able to have someone else's baby????

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Re: I wish I could smack that smug look off Liz's fac.

Postby genhospchat » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:54 am

Quote oltllover:
Quote genhospchat:
Quote oltllover: I agree Liz had no choice if she was subpoenaed, but I don't understand why Diane didn't question her all she had to do was ask Liz if she thought that past bad deeds justified taking away a child and since Liz has been no angel and certainly would never want her children taken away from her because of a long list of things she has done then her answer would be NO a mother should have her child and that would be be that.


Liz was called as a witness, her opinion doesn't matter to the care. This is about facts, not what witnesses think. Now what Diane should have done was asked Liz her relationship with Maxie now and how Liz feels about Maxie now, to try to show change in Maxie.


on the one hand you say that "her opinion doesn't matter" and then you say that Diane should have asked Liz how she FEELS about Maxie now, that would be OPINION. but regardless this is a family court not criminal and in these types of cases opinions do matter and a judge can take them into consideration.


No I said what is Liz's relationship with Maxie now, after all that Maxie did to Liz, that in no way is asking her opinion of how she thinks Maxie would be as a mother.

Liz could say "I forgave her and we have been there for each other through some hard times since." She's not giving an opinion but showing that Maxie's past deeds have changed her and she shouldn't be judged on them.

I worked in Family Law for many years (big reason I like to debate...that is a joke I use to have with some friends on here) and no, the judge does not care about Liz's opinion as to if she thinks Maxie would be a good mom.


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