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Re: OH Morgan

Postby Mother of an Angel » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:51 pm

I don't blame Morgan, Michael, or KooKoo. I blame Ron C. and Frank V. Their rush to put the OLTL trinity back into One General Life To Live is the issue. They had the three in place on GH with their old identities, and that went up in smoke. Their hurry to re-establish the pairings they had in mind previously and salvage the stories they had planned is doing no one any favors.

We still don't have a clue if Kiki was helping her mother ensnare Morgan with the gambling, or if Ava just manipulated Kiki to get Morgan in over his head. Morgan has only physically known Kiki for a few weeks longer than Michael. Until he was in over his head, they were only recent internet friends. Once Morgan took off from school, he knew Kiki in person all of what, a week?, before Michael met her.

Michael and Morgan get back to PC and share living space with the girl. One conversation with her after Frankentodd's party, and poof, Michael and Kiki can't keep their lips off each other? It's as bad as Carly suddenly knowing how Frodd would think so she knows how to find him, and is compassionate about his well being. It's rushed and makes no sense. But then again, even with characters who have been on screen longer, we don't see the building of relationships as much as we are told what has transpired off screen. It's lazy writing.

Morgan isn't in love with Kiki, he just hates that she's attracted to Michael. He's acting like his father, she's a possession. He's jealous of Michael. I'm not sure he'd go so far if it was another guy.

I don't get Michael's motivation for being so head over heels in a few short meetings, and it's been more than obvious that Kiki is not in love with Morgan, and is acting just as emotionally challenged as Morgan by getting into a marriage she doesn't want.

The only good aspect is that Sonny's going to get it from both sides. Morgan will blast him for not keeping the confidence and telling Connie, and Michael will not see Sonny in a good light for keeping Kiki's lineage secret.

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Re: OH Morgan

Postby ransomha » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:58 pm

Quote shepmajor: Rans, I goota ask you something... From your perspective, why is it that you believe Michael is the one ruining/breaking up Morgan's relationship?

No third party can do that -IF- the relationship is real, secure and genuine.

Should Michael want Kiki? No.

The way *I* see it? Morgan is the one doing the most damage - to himself AND to his relationship with Kiki. Secondary - Kiki is likewise doing more than her fair share of damage by not being honest with him about her true feelings. And by that, I mean she's not fessing up to NOT being in love with him.

I don't think Kiki and Michael are "in love" any more than Kiki and Morgan are. There is attraction between Michael and Kiki - lust maybe, but they've known each other for five minutes, so anything deeper? No, I just don't see it.

Morgan has known her for a few months longer than Michael, so no... he doesn't seem to really know her that well either. And I don't see love from him either. I see desperation. I see a need to control. Smitten he may be, but real love isn't controlling, or deceitful. Real love is about wanting the other person to be happy, even if it's not with you.

That doesn't mean I think he should blithely send Kiki running to Michael, because I don't think either brother should be with her.

But... to place all the blame at Michael's feet? It's just not warranted. The bulk of responsibility lies with Morgan and Kiki - and then Michael - who should have just let them marry and then let the chips fall where they may afterward when she learned the truth.


Kiki is a mother of son's worst nightmare.
She is very much to blame. She's a trouble maker and totally messing with both these kids.

I only wish they would both reject her, both tell her to get lost and go together as brothers and have a beer.


The reason I feel for Morgan is, Kiki was his girlfriend. Probably his first real relationship and sexual experience.
Morgan feels rejected by his family, that Michael was kept and he was discarded. Kiki is his " family: now. He THINKS he's in love. Really thinks he will spend his life with this girl. Crazy, YES but he's a kid who feels alone in the world and had someone who wanted him. Now Kiki picks Michael over him too, like Sonny and Carly. I feel for him.

But, Kiki is very much to blame.
Because Morgan was with her first, in a relationship, Michael should not be looking at her in that way even if she threw herself at him.

he should say, NO, you are with my brother. End of story.

But, I thank you for talking about the show with me, instead of all my terrible faults as a message board poster! :)

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Re: OH Morgan

Postby oltllover » Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:18 pm

Quote ransomha:
Quote shepmajor: Rans, I goota ask you something... From your perspective, why is it that you believe Michael is the one ruining/breaking up Morgan's relationship?

No third party can do that -IF- the relationship is real, secure and genuine.

Should Michael want Kiki? No.

The way *I* see it? Morgan is the one doing the most damage - to himself AND to his relationship with Kiki. Secondary - Kiki is likewise doing more than her fair share of damage by not being honest with him about her true feelings. And by that, I mean she's not fessing up to NOT being in love with him.

I don't think Kiki and Michael are "in love" any more than Kiki and Morgan are. There is attraction between Michael and Kiki - lust maybe, but they've known each other for five minutes, so anything deeper? No, I just don't see it.

Morgan has known her for a few months longer than Michael, so no... he doesn't seem to really know her that well either. And I don't see love from him either. I see desperation. I see a need to control. Smitten he may be, but real love isn't controlling, or deceitful. Real love is about wanting the other person to be happy, even if it's not with you.

That doesn't mean I think he should blithely send Kiki running to Michael, because I don't think either brother should be with her.

But... to place all the blame at Michael's feet? It's just not warranted. The bulk of responsibility lies with Morgan and Kiki - and then Michael - who should have just let them marry and then let the chips fall where they may afterward when she learned the truth.


Kiki is a mother of son's worst nightmare.
She is very much to blame. She's a trouble maker and totally messing with both these kids.

I only wish they would both reject her, both tell her to get lost and go together as brothers and have a beer.


The reason I feel for Morgan is, Kiki was his girlfriend. Probably his first real relationship and sexual experience.
Morgan feels rejected by his family, that Michael was kept and he was discarded. Kiki is his " family: now. He THINKS he's in love. Really thinks he will spend his life with this girl. Crazy, YES but he's a kid who feels alone in the world and had someone who wanted him. Now Kiki picks Michael over him too, like Sonny and Carly. I feel for him.

But, Kiki is very much to blame.
Because Morgan was with her first, in a relationship, Michael should not be looking at her in that way even if she threw herself at him.

he should say, NO, you are with my brother. End of story.

But, I thank you for talking about the show with me, instead of all my terrible faults as a message board poster! :)


Now that Kiki knows the truth she does need to come clean with Morgan. It sucks that he will be hurt by this but better now then later what I dont understand is why Morgan gets a pass for his behavior because he is young but you think Kiki is some horrible trouble making HO. they are both confused and desperate to make everything work. Besides what fun would a soap be without a little sibling rivalry. People cannot control who they are attracted to IRL maybe michael should back off but this isnt real life. just sayin

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Re: OH Morgan

Postby ransomha » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:02 pm

Quote oltllover:
Quote ransomha:
Quote shepmajor: Rans, I goota ask you something... From your perspective, why is it that you believe Michael is the one ruining/breaking up Morgan's relationship?

No third party can do that -IF- the relationship is real, secure and genuine.

Should Michael want Kiki? No.

The way *I* see it? Morgan is the one doing the most damage - to himself AND to his relationship with Kiki. Secondary - Kiki is likewise doing more than her fair share of damage by not being honest with him about her true feelings. And by that, I mean she's not fessing up to NOT being in love with him.

I don't think Kiki and Michael are "in love" any more than Kiki and Morgan are. There is attraction between Michael and Kiki - lust maybe, but they've known each other for five minutes, so anything deeper? No, I just don't see it.

Morgan has known her for a few months longer than Michael, so no... he doesn't seem to really know her that well either. And I don't see love from him either. I see desperation. I see a need to control. Smitten he may be, but real love isn't controlling, or deceitful. Real love is about wanting the other person to be happy, even if it's not with you.

That doesn't mean I think he should blithely send Kiki running to Michael, because I don't think either brother should be with her.

But... to place all the blame at Michael's feet? It's just not warranted. The bulk of responsibility lies with Morgan and Kiki - and then Michael - who should have just let them marry and then let the chips fall where they may afterward when she learned the truth.


Kiki is a mother of son's worst nightmare.
She is very much to blame. She's a trouble maker and totally messing with both these kids.

I only wish they would both reject her, both tell her to get lost and go together as brothers and have a beer.


The reason I feel for Morgan is, Kiki was his girlfriend. Probably his first real relationship and sexual experience.
Morgan feels rejected by his family, that Michael was kept and he was discarded. Kiki is his " family: now. He THINKS he's in love. Really thinks he will spend his life with this girl. Crazy, YES but he's a kid who feels alone in the world and had someone who wanted him. Now Kiki picks Michael over him too, like Sonny and Carly. I feel for him.

But, Kiki is very much to blame.
Because Morgan was with her first, in a relationship, Michael should not be looking at her in that way even if she threw herself at him.

he should say, NO, you are with my brother. End of story.

But, I thank you for talking about the show with me, instead of all my terrible faults as a message board poster! :)


Now that Kiki knows the truth she does need to come clean with Morgan. It sucks that he will be hurt by this but better now then later what I dont understand is why Morgan gets a pass for his behavior because he is young but you think Kiki is some horrible trouble making HO. they are both confused and desperate to make everything work. Besides what fun would a soap be without a little sibling rivalry. People cannot control who they are attracted to IRL maybe michael should back off but this isnt real life. just sayin


Morgan is not off the hook for his gambling or using Michael's card. He's 100% wrong for that.

I really don't blame him for his out of control actions concerning Kiki.He's a drowning man. He sees marriage is a way to "keep" the woman he loves. I'm sure he never imagined when he crashed at his brother's place that his own brother would be his competition for his girlfriend. We tend to trust our family.
I see Morgan as a kid in love. He's had no experience to draw from. He and Kiki were happy , enters Michael, now they're not.

Yes he's going about everything all wrong but, who can he turn to? Everyone loves Michael, he's the child they kept. Morgan had someone that loved HIM, now she too has feelings for Michael.

That's why i'm more lenient towards Morgan, I feel sorry for him.

And while people can't control who they are attracted to, they can control what they do about it. IMO, Kiki should have been 100% off limits because she was Morgans girlfriend.

Yes it is a soap and sibling rivalry n is staple but, I was hoping for a cool brother relationship. Those are cool tool.

Loved Bobbie and Luke always taking care of each other, and Molly and her sisters. Liked Nic and Lucky when they were on good terms and the love Dante has for his new found siblings.

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Re: OH Morgan

Postby oltlforever31 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:12 pm

Quote ransomha:
Quote oltllover:
Quote ransomha:
Quote shepmajor: Rans, I goota ask you something... From your perspective, why is it that you believe Michael is the one ruining/breaking up Morgan's relationship?

No third party can do that -IF- the relationship is real, secure and genuine.

Should Michael want Kiki? No.

The way *I* see it? Morgan is the one doing the most damage - to himself AND to his relationship with Kiki. Secondary - Kiki is likewise doing more than her fair share of damage by not being honest with him about her true feelings. And by that, I mean she's not fessing up to NOT being in love with him.

I don't think Kiki and Michael are "in love" any more than Kiki and Morgan are. There is attraction between Michael and Kiki - lust maybe, but they've known each other for five minutes, so anything deeper? No, I just don't see it.

Morgan has known her for a few months longer than Michael, so no... he doesn't seem to really know her that well either. And I don't see love from him either. I see desperation. I see a need to control. Smitten he may be, but real love isn't controlling, or deceitful. Real love is about wanting the other person to be happy, even if it's not with you.

That doesn't mean I think he should blithely send Kiki running to Michael, because I don't think either brother should be with her.

But... to place all the blame at Michael's feet? It's just not warranted. The bulk of responsibility lies with Morgan and Kiki - and then Michael - who should have just let them marry and then let the chips fall where they may afterward when she learned the truth.


Kiki is a mother of son's worst nightmare.
She is very much to blame. She's a trouble maker and totally messing with both these kids.

I only wish they would both reject her, both tell her to get lost and go together as brothers and have a beer.


The reason I feel for Morgan is, Kiki was his girlfriend. Probably his first real relationship and sexual experience.
Morgan feels rejected by his family, that Michael was kept and he was discarded. Kiki is his " family: now. He THINKS he's in love. Really thinks he will spend his life with this girl. Crazy, YES but he's a kid who feels alone in the world and had someone who wanted him. Now Kiki picks Michael over him too, like Sonny and Carly. I feel for him.

But, Kiki is very much to blame.
Because Morgan was with her first, in a relationship, Michael should not be looking at her in that way even if she threw herself at him.

he should say, NO, you are with my brother. End of story.

But, I thank you for talking about the show with me, instead of all my terrible faults as a message board poster! :)


Now that Kiki knows the truth she does need to come clean with Morgan. It sucks that he will be hurt by this but better now then later what I dont understand is why Morgan gets a pass for his behavior because he is young but you think Kiki is some horrible trouble making HO. they are both confused and desperate to make everything work. Besides what fun would a soap be without a little sibling rivalry. People cannot control who they are attracted to IRL maybe michael should back off but this isnt real life. just sayin


Morgan is not off the hook for his gambling or using Michael's card. He's 100% wrong for that.

I really don't blame him for his out of control actions concerning Kiki.He's a drowning man. He sees marriage is a way to "keep" the woman he loves. I'm sure he never imagined when he crashed at his brother's place that his own brother would be his competition for his girlfriend. We tend to trust our family.
I see Morgan as a kid in love. He's had no experience to draw from. He and Kiki were happy , enters Michael, now they're not.

Yes he's going about everything all wrong but, who can he turn to? Everyone loves Michael, he's the child they kept. Morgan had someone that loved HIM, now she too has feelings for Michael.

That's why i'm more lenient towards Morgan, I feel sorry for him.

And while people can't control who they are attracted to, they can control what they do about it. IMO, Kiki should have been 100% off limits because she was Morgans girlfriend.

Yes it is a soap and sibling rivalry n is staple but, I was hoping for a cool brother relationship. Those are cool tool.

Loved Bobbie and Luke always taking care of each other, and Molly and her sisters. Liked Nic and Lucky when they were on good terms and the love Dante has for his new found siblings.



I feel that way too. (Hi Rans!) I think Morgan is wrong for his dishonesty, but I think Michael and Kiki are worse for what they have been doing. I know people can't help how they feel, but come on, Michael you are seriously violating the bro code. You don't go after your brothers girl, and they hardly even know each other. When have they actually even spent any real quality time together? They had like 2 meaningful conversations, and boom they can't stay away from each other? The whole thing felt rushed, and as a result, I really don't like the pairing. I actually enjoyed Kiki and Morgan much better, now I don't care either way. I am ready for this story to end.

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Re: OH Morgan

Postby ransomha » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:18 pm

Quote oltlforever31:
Quote ransomha:
Quote oltllover:
Quote ransomha:
Quote shepmajor: Rans, I goota ask you something... From your perspective, why is it that you believe Michael is the one ruining/breaking up Morgan's relationship?

No third party can do that -IF- the relationship is real, secure and genuine.

Should Michael want Kiki? No.

The way *I* see it? Morgan is the one doing the most damage - to himself AND to his relationship with Kiki. Secondary - Kiki is likewise doing more than her fair share of damage by not being honest with him about her true feelings. And by that, I mean she's not fessing up to NOT being in love with him.

I don't think Kiki and Michael are "in love" any more than Kiki and Morgan are. There is attraction between Michael and Kiki - lust maybe, but they've known each other for five minutes, so anything deeper? No, I just don't see it.

Morgan has known her for a few months longer than Michael, so no... he doesn't seem to really know her that well either. And I don't see love from him either. I see desperation. I see a need to control. Smitten he may be, but real love isn't controlling, or deceitful. Real love is about wanting the other person to be happy, even if it's not with you.

That doesn't mean I think he should blithely send Kiki running to Michael, because I don't think either brother should be with her.

But... to place all the blame at Michael's feet? It's just not warranted. The bulk of responsibility lies with Morgan and Kiki - and then Michael - who should have just let them marry and then let the chips fall where they may afterward when she learned the truth.


Kiki is a mother of son's worst nightmare.
She is very much to blame. She's a trouble maker and totally messing with both these kids.

I only wish they would both reject her, both tell her to get lost and go together as brothers and have a beer.


The reason I feel for Morgan is, Kiki was his girlfriend. Probably his first real relationship and sexual experience.
Morgan feels rejected by his family, that Michael was kept and he was discarded. Kiki is his " family: now. He THINKS he's in love. Really thinks he will spend his life with this girl. Crazy, YES but he's a kid who feels alone in the world and had someone who wanted him. Now Kiki picks Michael over him too, like Sonny and Carly. I feel for him.

But, Kiki is very much to blame.
Because Morgan was with her first, in a relationship, Michael should not be looking at her in that way even if she threw herself at him.

he should say, NO, you are with my brother. End of story.

But, I thank you for talking about the show with me, instead of all my terrible faults as a message board poster! :)


Now that Kiki knows the truth she does need to come clean with Morgan. It sucks that he will be hurt by this but better now then later what I dont understand is why Morgan gets a pass for his behavior because he is young but you think Kiki is some horrible trouble making HO. they are both confused and desperate to make everything work. Besides what fun would a soap be without a little sibling rivalry. People cannot control who they are attracted to IRL maybe michael should back off but this isnt real life. just sayin


Morgan is not off the hook for his gambling or using Michael's card. He's 100% wrong for that.

I really don't blame him for his out of control actions concerning Kiki.He's a drowning man. He sees marriage is a way to "keep" the woman he loves. I'm sure he never imagined when he crashed at his brother's place that his own brother would be his competition for his girlfriend. We tend to trust our family.
I see Morgan as a kid in love. He's had no experience to draw from. He and Kiki were happy , enters Michael, now they're not.

Yes he's going about everything all wrong but, who can he turn to? Everyone loves Michael, he's the child they kept. Morgan had someone that loved HIM, now she too has feelings for Michael.

That's why i'm more lenient towards Morgan, I feel sorry for him.

And while people can't control who they are attracted to, they can control what they do about it. IMO, Kiki should have been 100% off limits because she was Morgans girlfriend.

Yes it is a soap and sibling rivalry n is staple but, I was hoping for a cool brother relationship. Those are cool tool.

Loved Bobbie and Luke always taking care of each other, and Molly and her sisters. Liked Nic and Lucky when they were on good terms and the love Dante has for his new found siblings.



I feel that way too. (Hi Rans!) I think Morgan is wrong for his dishonesty, but I think Michael and Kiki are worse for what they have been doing. I know people can't help how they feel, but come on, Michael you are seriously violating the bro code. You don't go after your brothers girl, and they hardly even know each other. When have they actually even spent any real quality time together? They had like 2 meaningful conversations, and boom they can't stay away from each other? The whole thing felt rushed, and as a result, I really don't like the pairing. I actually enjoyed Kiki and Morgan much better, now I don't care either way. I am ready for this story to end.


Hi to you! Where ya' been?

That's my take too.

Can you please post more often?

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Re: OH Morgan

Postby oltlforever31 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:22 pm

Quote ransomha:
Quote oltlforever31:
Quote ransomha:
Quote oltllover:
Quote ransomha:
Quote shepmajor: Rans, I goota ask you something... From your perspective, why is it that you believe Michael is the one ruining/breaking up Morgan's relationship?

No third party can do that -IF- the relationship is real, secure and genuine.

Should Michael want Kiki? No.

The way *I* see it? Morgan is the one doing the most damage - to himself AND to his relationship with Kiki. Secondary - Kiki is likewise doing more than her fair share of damage by not being honest with him about her true feelings. And by that, I mean she's not fessing up to NOT being in love with him.

I don't think Kiki and Michael are "in love" any more than Kiki and Morgan are. There is attraction between Michael and Kiki - lust maybe, but they've known each other for five minutes, so anything deeper? No, I just don't see it.

Morgan has known her for a few months longer than Michael, so no... he doesn't seem to really know her that well either. And I don't see love from him either. I see desperation. I see a need to control. Smitten he may be, but real love isn't controlling, or deceitful. Real love is about wanting the other person to be happy, even if it's not with you.

That doesn't mean I think he should blithely send Kiki running to Michael, because I don't think either brother should be with her.

But... to place all the blame at Michael's feet? It's just not warranted. The bulk of responsibility lies with Morgan and Kiki - and then Michael - who should have just let them marry and then let the chips fall where they may afterward when she learned the truth.


Kiki is a mother of son's worst nightmare.
She is very much to blame. She's a trouble maker and totally messing with both these kids.

I only wish they would both reject her, both tell her to get lost and go together as brothers and have a beer.


The reason I feel for Morgan is, Kiki was his girlfriend. Probably his first real relationship and sexual experience.
Morgan feels rejected by his family, that Michael was kept and he was discarded. Kiki is his " family: now. He THINKS he's in love. Really thinks he will spend his life with this girl. Crazy, YES but he's a kid who feels alone in the world and had someone who wanted him. Now Kiki picks Michael over him too, like Sonny and Carly. I feel for him.

But, Kiki is very much to blame.
Because Morgan was with her first, in a relationship, Michael should not be looking at her in that way even if she threw herself at him.

he should say, NO, you are with my brother. End of story.

But, I thank you for talking about the show with me, instead of all my terrible faults as a message board poster! :)


Now that Kiki knows the truth she does need to come clean with Morgan. It sucks that he will be hurt by this but better now then later what I dont understand is why Morgan gets a pass for his behavior because he is young but you think Kiki is some horrible trouble making HO. they are both confused and desperate to make everything work. Besides what fun would a soap be without a little sibling rivalry. People cannot control who they are attracted to IRL maybe michael should back off but this isnt real life. just sayin


Morgan is not off the hook for his gambling or using Michael's card. He's 100% wrong for that.

I really don't blame him for his out of control actions concerning Kiki.He's a drowning man. He sees marriage is a way to "keep" the woman he loves. I'm sure he never imagined when he crashed at his brother's place that his own brother would be his competition for his girlfriend. We tend to trust our family.
I see Morgan as a kid in love. He's had no experience to draw from. He and Kiki were happy , enters Michael, now they're not.

Yes he's going about everything all wrong but, who can he turn to? Everyone loves Michael, he's the child they kept. Morgan had someone that loved HIM, now she too has feelings for Michael.

That's why i'm more lenient towards Morgan, I feel sorry for him.

And while people can't control who they are attracted to, they can control what they do about it. IMO, Kiki should have been 100% off limits because she was Morgans girlfriend.

Yes it is a soap and sibling rivalry n is staple but, I was hoping for a cool brother relationship. Those are cool tool.

Loved Bobbie and Luke always taking care of each other, and Molly and her sisters. Liked Nic and Lucky when they were on good terms and the love Dante has for his new found siblings.



I feel that way too. (Hi Rans!) I think Morgan is wrong for his dishonesty, but I think Michael and Kiki are worse for what they have been doing. I know people can't help how they feel, but come on, Michael you are seriously violating the bro code. You don't go after your brothers girl, and they hardly even know each other. When have they actually even spent any real quality time together? They had like 2 meaningful conversations, and boom they can't stay away from each other? The whole thing felt rushed, and as a result, I really don't like the pairing. I actually enjoyed Kiki and Morgan much better, now I don't care either way. I am ready for this story to end.


Hi to you! Where ya' been?

That's my take too.

Can you please post more often?



I've been lurking around, but haven't felt much like posting lately. I've also been busy this summer, and have been getting a little behind on show, but so far this week, I've stayed caught up. I really enjoyed today's show! I will try to post more often! :) :)

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Re: OH Morgan

Postby Bizlet » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:33 pm

Quote ransomha:
Quote oltllover:
Quote ransomha:
Quote shepmajor: Rans, I goota ask you something... From your perspective, why is it that you believe Michael is the one ruining/breaking up Morgan's relationship?

No third party can do that -IF- the relationship is real, secure and genuine.

Should Michael want Kiki? No.

The way *I* see it? Morgan is the one doing the most damage - to himself AND to his relationship with Kiki. Secondary - Kiki is likewise doing more than her fair share of damage by not being honest with him about her true feelings. And by that, I mean she's not fessing up to NOT being in love with him.

I don't think Kiki and Michael are "in love" any more than Kiki and Morgan are. There is attraction between Michael and Kiki - lust maybe, but they've known each other for five minutes, so anything deeper? No, I just don't see it.

Morgan has known her for a few months longer than Michael, so no... he doesn't seem to really know her that well either. And I don't see love from him either. I see desperation. I see a need to control. Smitten he may be, but real love isn't controlling, or deceitful. Real love is about wanting the other person to be happy, even if it's not with you.

That doesn't mean I think he should blithely send Kiki running to Michael, because I don't think either brother should be with her.

But... to place all the blame at Michael's feet? It's just not warranted. The bulk of responsibility lies with Morgan and Kiki - and then Michael - who should have just let them marry and then let the chips fall where they may afterward when she learned the truth.


Kiki is a mother of son's worst nightmare.
She is very much to blame. She's a trouble maker and totally messing with both these kids.

I only wish they would both reject her, both tell her to get lost and go together as brothers and have a beer.


The reason I feel for Morgan is, Kiki was his girlfriend. Probably his first real relationship and sexual experience.
Morgan feels rejected by his family, that Michael was kept and he was discarded. Kiki is his " family: now. He THINKS he's in love. Really thinks he will spend his life with this girl. Crazy, YES but he's a kid who feels alone in the world and had someone who wanted him. Now Kiki picks Michael over him too, like Sonny and Carly. I feel for him.

But, Kiki is very much to blame.
Because Morgan was with her first, in a relationship, Michael should not be looking at her in that way even if she threw herself at him.

he should say, NO, you are with my brother. End of story.

But, I thank you for talking about the show with me, instead of all my terrible faults as a message board poster! :)


Now that Kiki knows the truth she does need to come clean with Morgan. It sucks that he will be hurt by this but better now then later what I dont understand is why Morgan gets a pass for his behavior because he is young but you think Kiki is some horrible trouble making HO. they are both confused and desperate to make everything work. Besides what fun would a soap be without a little sibling rivalry. People cannot control who they are attracted to IRL maybe michael should back off but this isnt real life. just sayin


Morgan is not off the hook for his gambling or using Michael's card. He's 100% wrong for that.

I really don't blame him for his out of control actions concerning Kiki.He's a drowning man. He sees marriage is a way to "keep" the woman he loves. I'm sure he never imagined when he crashed at his brother's place that his own brother would be his competition for his girlfriend. We tend to trust our family.
I see Morgan as a kid in love. He's had no experience to draw from. He and Kiki were happy , enters Michael, now they're not.

Yes he's going about everything all wrong but, who can he turn to? Everyone loves Michael, he's the child they kept. Morgan had someone that loved HIM, now she too has feelings for Michael.

That's why i'm more lenient towards Morgan, I feel sorry for him.

And while people can't control who they are attracted to, they can control what they do about it. IMO, Kiki should have been 100% off limits because she was Morgans girlfriend.

Yes it is a soap and sibling rivalry n is staple but, I was hoping for a cool brother relationship. Those are cool tool.

Loved Bobbie and Luke always taking care of each other, and Molly and her sisters. Liked Nic and Lucky when they were on good terms and the love Dante has for his new found siblings.


Probably should not include Nik and Lucky in your example there. One of Liz's many paternity tests Aiden. I don't they have spoken much since then. Lucky found out that Aiden was his and shipped off to Afica anyway.

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Re: OH Morgan

Postby oltllover » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:39 pm

I will say this, I think tptb went WAY to fast with this s/l.
Maybe if we had the chance to see that what morgan and kiki had was just fun times as opposed to real love and then through a series of well place scenarios where michael and kiki ended up together like stranded in a snowstorm or some other soap staple it would have played much better. that being said morgan being young and desperate doesnt excuse him lying to kiki and michael asked kiki if she loved morgan if she had said yes maybe then he should back off but she didnt. I actually hated that tptb went this direction from the beginning, either make KA play someone else that michael could be with or keep her spunky like she was when she first came on and let her and morgan be the wild trouble making couple.

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Re: OH Morgan

Postby oltlforever31 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:46 pm

Quote oltllover: I will say this, I think tptb went WAY to fast with this s/l.
Maybe if we had the chance to see that what morgan and kiki had was just fun times as opposed to real love and then through a series of well place scenarios where michael and kiki ended up together like stranded in a snowstorm or some other soap staple it would have played much better. that being said morgan being young and desperate doesnt excuse him lying to kiki and michael asked kiki if she loved morgan if she had said yes maybe then he should back off but she didnt. I actually hated that tptb went this direction from the beginning, either make KA play someone else that michael could be with or keep her spunky like she was when she first came on and let her and morgan be the wild trouble making couple.



Well said! That's how I feel too!


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