AJ chocking Connie. It's not that serious

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Re: AJ chocking Connie. It's not that serious

Postby stephanie215 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:32 pm

IMO What A.J did was violent and criminal. What Sonny did by coming in with a gun is not criminal. Sonny's house. A.J walked in without permission and started choking Connie. Sonny has every right to stop this at all cost.

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Re: AJ chocking Connie. It's not that serious

Postby Rena54 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:41 pm

AJ is coming apart like he always does - calm down and grow up why do rich kids always have to work for the family company? Get another job - Good Lord ELQ is not the only business in town - Connie did the right thing -

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Re: AJ chocking Connie. It's not that serious

Postby elijahsgotit » Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:44 pm

Quote ransomha:
Quote cardgirl:
Quote ransomha:
Quote elijahsgotit: Chill?? As if no one has the right to be upset about a woman being choked LOL

I do think it is good drama an it's this kind of drama that makes soaps interesting but I also think it's very wrong for a man to lay hands on a woman and it's understandable to be upset by that, especially considering AJ's reason for doing it ~) I remember being outraged when Kiefer was beating Krissy..Not comparing the two completely different situation, just saying that both are wrong.

I believe that viewers can both enjoy the drama and feel the way that they do about a woman being choked. Just because they may not like something that happens on the show doesn't mean they don't still enjoy the drama of it.

Btw, so much for AJ being a changed man ~)
I only wish Elizabeth and Michael could have been there to watch.


EXCELLANT post.

I guess Kristina's abuse was entertaining too.......


Rans, Can I just ask, why do you always take things to the extreme? Liz slapping Tracy was far from senior abuse. It was still wrong but it was not abuse of a senior. If Monica would have slapped her, it still would have been wrong but Monica is a senior now I guess to.

AJ should not have put his hands on Connie.

There's is all kinds of things that happen, it does not make it abuse. What happened to Kristina was abuse. Usually to qualify as abuse it has to be excessive. Which that was.
Liz slapping Tracy was not excessive.
Sonny pulling a gun on AJ was just as violent and criminal as AJ choking Connie.

And yes it is a soap so there are bound to be many degrees of violence. I am not entertained by excessive violence either nor am I entertained by excessive abuse.

And some things like the slap and the choking no matter to what degree are wrong. Not every violent or wrong act that happens on a show has to be appalling. Just because others don't share your outrage over stuff does make them heartless or wrong. EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion with out being belittled or argued with.


If two old people get into it, that's a fait fight but, for a young woman to slap a senior/older woman across her face in her own home is not ok IMO.

I really don't care if others share my opinion or not. They usually don't as you may have noticed.
If you post an opinion and others disagree why do you think that I think they are wrong?If you feel belittled that's on you, i'm afraid.

You may see me as "extreme " , I see myself as passionate.

I have said 100 times, this is MY OPINION or how I SEE something. I really don't worry about how other people watch or enjoy the show. Just glad they do.Voicing an opposite opinion is what makes the boards interesting, I don't considering it arguing.

If people like threads that only want "like" opinions, they should start threads like that.
Otherwise, I think you should expect difference of opinions and debate.


I completely agree on Tracy/Elizabeth. First of all, it was none of Liz's business. Tracy did what she had to do to take back what was STOLEN from her. Let's all not forget what AJ did to get that company in the first place. He stole Tracy's inheritance but no one seems to have any problem with that yet Tracy deserved to be slapped for doing what she had to do?? No, I don't think so. Liz shouldn't have even been there once AJ left and she had no right to slap Tracy. I'm a big fan of both characters but Liz was in the wrong here and she really needs to stop trying to fight AJ's battles for him already, it's getting old.

Also, not to get in between the posting discussion but I'd just like to point something out. We've interacted on this board for a while now, sometimes we agree, sometimes we disagree but as I've stated before, I've never felt offended, disrespected, belittled or whatever you wanna call it. This is supposed to be the fun of debating and for me, it is :D

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Re: AJ chocking Connie. It's not that serious

Postby ngirl26 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:45 pm

Quote oltllover:
Quote ransomha:
Quote oltllover: I haven't seen anyone really saying anything about AJ choking Connie its more about AJ whining about his failed life. a man should never put his hands on a woman but your right this is a soap and this isn't about man on woman violence its about AJ blaming someone else for his problem. If Connie was a man he would have done the same thing.


I don't think so.
AJ wouldn't lay his hand on someone that could actually hit back.



While I love soapy goodness as much as the next person, some things are not entertaining, IMO.

Sam's "rape", Michael's rape, a younger woman slapping a senior, a man strangling a woman...... wouldn't want to see a pedophile s/l and many others but, to each their own.


then why do you even watch. Soaps are not wine and roses, rapes, murders, kidnappings etc. is part of the story telling no one is glorifying it. and AJ was pretty pissed I think he would have gone after a guy the same way this is not a story about violence against women its about AJ's insecurities and uncontrollable rage. Connie was just the easy excuse for him. I never said I like watching violence but I except that sometimes it is necessary for the story. you know like when sonny the mobster does his thing.


True. However, when these things occur, the perpetrators of these acts are usually jailed or killed off...eventually. Aj probably won't even get a slap on the wrist. You're right, Aj is doing his typical blame game, but I still have to wonder what Liz (a victim of rape) will have to say about his response to Connie.

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Re: AJ chocking Connie. It's not that serious

Postby elijahsgotit » Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:47 pm

Quote stephanie215: IMO What A.J did was violent and criminal. What Sonny did by coming in with a gun is not criminal. Sonny's house. A.J walked in without permission and started choking Connie. Sonny has every right to stop this at all cost.


I completely agree. Sonny has every right to go in there, all guns blazing. AJ broke into Sonny's home and physically assaulted the woman he loves. What was he supposed to just let him do it?? I think not.

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Re: AJ chocking Connie. It's not that serious

Postby ransomha » Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:58 pm

Quote elijahsgotit:
Quote ransomha:
Quote cardgirl:
Quote ransomha:
Quote elijahsgotit: Chill?? As if no one has the right to be upset about a woman being choked LOL

I do think it is good drama an it's this kind of drama that makes soaps interesting but I also think it's very wrong for a man to lay hands on a woman and it's understandable to be upset by that, especially considering AJ's reason for doing it ~) I remember being outraged when Kiefer was beating Krissy..Not comparing the two completely different situation, just saying that both are wrong.

I believe that viewers can both enjoy the drama and feel the way that they do about a woman being choked. Just because they may not like something that happens on the show doesn't mean they don't still enjoy the drama of it.

Btw, so much for AJ being a changed man ~)
I only wish Elizabeth and Michael could have been there to watch.


EXCELLANT post.

I guess Kristina's abuse was entertaining too.......


Rans, Can I just ask, why do you always take things to the extreme? Liz slapping Tracy was far from senior abuse. It was still wrong but it was not abuse of a senior. If Monica would have slapped her, it still would have been wrong but Monica is a senior now I guess to.

AJ should not have put his hands on Connie.

There's is all kinds of things that happen, it does not make it abuse. What happened to Kristina was abuse. Usually to qualify as abuse it has to be excessive. Which that was.
Liz slapping Tracy was not excessive.
Sonny pulling a gun on AJ was just as violent and criminal as AJ choking Connie.

And yes it is a soap so there are bound to be many degrees of violence. I am not entertained by excessive violence either nor am I entertained by excessive abuse.

And some things like the slap and the choking no matter to what degree are wrong. Not every violent or wrong act that happens on a show has to be appalling. Just because others don't share your outrage over stuff does make them heartless or wrong. EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion with out being belittled or argued with.


If two old people get into it, that's a fait fight but, for a young woman to slap a senior/older woman across her face in her own home is not ok IMO.

I really don't care if others share my opinion or not. They usually don't as you may have noticed.
If you post an opinion and others disagree why do you think that I think they are wrong?If you feel belittled that's on you, i'm afraid.

You may see me as "extreme " , I see myself as passionate.

I have said 100 times, this is MY OPINION or how I SEE something. I really don't worry about how other people watch or enjoy the show. Just glad they do.Voicing an opposite opinion is what makes the boards interesting, I don't considering it arguing.

If people like threads that only want "like" opinions, they should start threads like that.
Otherwise, I think you should expect difference of opinions and debate.


I completely agree on Tracy/Elizabeth. First of all, it was none of Liz's business. Tracy did what she had to do to take back what was STOLEN from her. Let's all not forget what AJ did to get that company in the first place. He stole Tracy's inheritance but no one seems to have any problem with that yet Tracy deserved to be slapped for doing what she had to do?? No, I don't think so. Liz shouldn't have even been there once AJ left and she had no right to slap Tracy. I'm a big fan of both characters but Liz was in the wrong here and she really needs to stop trying to fight AJ's battles for him already, it's getting old.

Also, not to get in between the posting discussion but I'd just like to point something out. We've interacted on this board for a while now, sometimes we agree, sometimes we disagree but as I've stated before, I've never felt offended, disrespected, belittled or whatever you wanna call it. This is supposed to be the fun of debating and for me, it is :D


I sincerely thank you for that post. Now...let the debating begin!

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Re: AJ chocking Connie. It's not that serious

Postby stephanie215 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:04 pm

Quote ransomha:
Quote elijahsgotit:
Quote ransomha:
Quote cardgirl:
Quote ransomha:
Quote elijahsgotit: Chill?? As if no one has the right to be upset about a woman being choked LOL

I do think it is good drama an it's this kind of drama that makes soaps interesting but I also think it's very wrong for a man to lay hands on a woman and it's understandable to be upset by that, especially considering AJ's reason for doing it ~) I remember being outraged when Kiefer was beating Krissy..Not comparing the two completely different situation, just saying that both are wrong.

I believe that viewers can both enjoy the drama and feel the way that they do about a woman being choked. Just because they may not like something that happens on the show doesn't mean they don't still enjoy the drama of it.

Btw, so much for AJ being a changed man ~)
I only wish Elizabeth and Michael could have been there to watch.


EXCELLANT post.

I guess Kristina's abuse was entertaining too.......


Rans, Can I just ask, why do you always take things to the extreme? Liz slapping Tracy was far from senior abuse. It was still wrong but it was not abuse of a senior. If Monica would have slapped her, it still would have been wrong but Monica is a senior now I guess to.

AJ should not have put his hands on Connie.

There's is all kinds of things that happen, it does not make it abuse. What happened to Kristina was abuse. Usually to qualify as abuse it has to be excessive. Which that was.
Liz slapping Tracy was not excessive.
Sonny pulling a gun on AJ was just as violent and criminal as AJ choking Connie.

And yes it is a soap so there are bound to be many degrees of violence. I am not entertained by excessive violence either nor am I entertained by excessive abuse.

And some things like the slap and the choking no matter to what degree are wrong. Not every violent or wrong act that happens on a show has to be appalling. Just because others don't share your outrage over stuff does make them heartless or wrong. EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion with out being belittled or argued with.


If two old people get into it, that's a fait fight but, for a young woman to slap a senior/older woman across her face in her own home is not ok IMO.

I really don't care if others share my opinion or not. They usually don't as you may have noticed.
If you post an opinion and others disagree why do you think that I think they are wrong?If you feel belittled that's on you, i'm afraid.

You may see me as "extreme " , I see myself as passionate.

I have said 100 times, this is MY OPINION or how I SEE something. I really don't worry about how other people watch or enjoy the show. Just glad they do.Voicing an opposite opinion is what makes the boards interesting, I don't considering it arguing.

If people like threads that only want "like" opinions, they should start threads like that.
Otherwise, I think you should expect difference of opinions and debate.


I completely agree on Tracy/Elizabeth. First of all, it was none of Liz's business. Tracy did what she had to do to take back what was STOLEN from her. Let's all not forget what AJ did to get that company in the first place. He stole Tracy's inheritance but no one seems to have any problem with that yet Tracy deserved to be slapped for doing what she had to do?? No, I don't think so. Liz shouldn't have even been there once AJ left and she had no right to slap Tracy. I'm a big fan of both characters but Liz was in the wrong here and she really needs to stop trying to fight AJ's battles for him already, it's getting old.

Also, not to get in between the posting discussion but I'd just like to point something out. We've interacted on this board for a while now, sometimes we agree, sometimes we disagree but as I've stated before, I've never felt offended, disrespected, belittled or whatever you wanna call it. This is supposed to be the fun of debating and for me, it is :D


I sincerely thank you for that post. Now...let the debating begin!


Great Post, ITA, everybody has a right to there opinion. There is no right or wrong. It's everybody's opinion!

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Re: AJ chocking Connie. It's not that serious

Postby elijahsgotit » Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:38 pm

Quote stephanie215:
Quote ransomha:
Quote elijahsgotit:
Quote ransomha:
Quote cardgirl:
Quote ransomha:
Quote elijahsgotit: Chill?? As if no one has the right to be upset about a woman being choked LOL

I do think it is good drama an it's this kind of drama that makes soaps interesting but I also think it's very wrong for a man to lay hands on a woman and it's understandable to be upset by that, especially considering AJ's reason for doing it ~) I remember being outraged when Kiefer was beating Krissy..Not comparing the two completely different situation, just saying that both are wrong.

I believe that viewers can both enjoy the drama and feel the way that they do about a woman being choked. Just because they may not like something that happens on the show doesn't mean they don't still enjoy the drama of it.

Btw, so much for AJ being a changed man ~)
I only wish Elizabeth and Michael could have been there to watch.


EXCELLANT post.

I guess Kristina's abuse was entertaining too.......


Rans, Can I just ask, why do you always take things to the extreme? Liz slapping Tracy was far from senior abuse. It was still wrong but it was not abuse of a senior. If Monica would have slapped her, it still would have been wrong but Monica is a senior now I guess to.

AJ should not have put his hands on Connie.

There's is all kinds of things that happen, it does not make it abuse. What happened to Kristina was abuse. Usually to qualify as abuse it has to be excessive. Which that was.
Liz slapping Tracy was not excessive.
Sonny pulling a gun on AJ was just as violent and criminal as AJ choking Connie.

And yes it is a soap so there are bound to be many degrees of violence. I am not entertained by excessive violence either nor am I entertained by excessive abuse.

And some things like the slap and the choking no matter to what degree are wrong. Not every violent or wrong act that happens on a show has to be appalling. Just because others don't share your outrage over stuff does make them heartless or wrong. EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion with out being belittled or argued with.


If two old people get into it, that's a fait fight but, for a young woman to slap a senior/older woman across her face in her own home is not ok IMO.

I really don't care if others share my opinion or not. They usually don't as you may have noticed.
If you post an opinion and others disagree why do you think that I think they are wrong?If you feel belittled that's on you, i'm afraid.

You may see me as "extreme " , I see myself as passionate.

I have said 100 times, this is MY OPINION or how I SEE something. I really don't worry about how other people watch or enjoy the show. Just glad they do.Voicing an opposite opinion is what makes the boards interesting, I don't considering it arguing.

If people like threads that only want "like" opinions, they should start threads like that.
Otherwise, I think you should expect difference of opinions and debate.


I completely agree on Tracy/Elizabeth. First of all, it was none of Liz's business. Tracy did what she had to do to take back what was STOLEN from her. Let's all not forget what AJ did to get that company in the first place. He stole Tracy's inheritance but no one seems to have any problem with that yet Tracy deserved to be slapped for doing what she had to do?? No, I don't think so. Liz shouldn't have even been there once AJ left and she had no right to slap Tracy. I'm a big fan of both characters but Liz was in the wrong here and she really needs to stop trying to fight AJ's battles for him already, it's getting old.

Also, not to get in between the posting discussion but I'd just like to point something out. We've interacted on this board for a while now, sometimes we agree, sometimes we disagree but as I've stated before, I've never felt offended, disrespected, belittled or whatever you wanna call it. This is supposed to be the fun of debating and for me, it is :D


I sincerely thank you for that post. Now...let the debating begin!


Great Post, ITA, everybody has a right to there opinion. There is no right or wrong. It's everybody's opinion!


Exactly. That's why it's called an "opinion" :-) LOL

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Re: AJ chocking Connie. It's not that serious

Postby bella jasam » Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:56 pm

The choking was totally unnecessary. Violence is not AJ's thing. That is Sonny's job.

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Re: AJ chocking Connie. It's not that serious

Postby JLiz » Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:55 pm

I Think that the writers just needed to screw around with A.J.
One more time,it seems to me that anyone with that name always
Seems to lose, I'm glad I don't have that name,LOL.

With that being said, I mad at A.J.For striking at Connie, but
Remember when Sonny, tied up and held Connie in his warehouse,
Over what happened to someone's fiance' and daughter (Code:
For not mentioning their names, because Prospect Park), that
Was wrong, too. 1993, became the year that Soaps glorified

What Gangsters do, they commit crimes, but when a honest
Man, makes a big mistake, we condemn them. I'm so disappointed in Frank and Ron for wasting a very good talk
From beyond between Alan and A.J. That was a big waste of

Time for nothing,now Alan has to just give up on him, ages
Ago, A.J. Never stood a chance! Not with Carly, Hannah,
Courtney, Rachael, Liz, the man keep a woman, a job, nothing! I know, it's just a Soap, chill, right.

But I hate, when they bring a character back and try to
Change them into a good person, then turn them back, bad,
Boy, was I fool to think that for once, this show would
Not just revolve around Sonny, Carly, Ava, Connie, but it

Has, it's ashame, but I should have stopped watching, when
Sonny first came right into town, he's like the devil, LOL
I can't stand him and his marry band of mobsters, Kill him
Off,write it, where he nearly chokes someone like Carly,Or
Connie, then have A.J., Shawn, or Michael come in, and pull

A Gun on him? Why does he always have to be right? It really
Burns my Canoli, I'm taking a week off from watching, and
Only watch, Sam, Silas, Rafe, Molly, Alexis, Wells, scenes,
I just can't stand Mr. God's Gift to Women and the world 101!


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