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Re: JaSam and Sam Spoilers

Postby Taye322 » Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:49 pm

Quote genhospchat:
Quote katie28: so, i have speculation about the whole "car accident" thing. i think that jerry is back, and he was the one in the SUV, and he is actually the one responsible for Claudia's accident...part of a ploy perhaps. but i have a question, how is it that three people on the road do not know if they hit another car, causing it to flip over? i drove over a speed bump the other day, and well, i felt it. and if they swerved in time to miss her car and it flipped, wouldn't you have looked back?? or heard the loud crash. cars aren't as light as feathers. i know, i know...it's a soap. anyway, i still say it was the suv and it was jerry driving. he will teach claudia what it is like to lose a child. eye for an eye kinda thing.


It's the same as when Sam was hit, it could have been Liz or Monica or Nik (wasn't it?) that hit her yet NO ONE remembered doing it yet they ALL had damage to their vehicles and don't know how! The only valid one was Monica because she was drunk and it turned out to be her!

I like the idea that it was Jerry driving BUT did Jerry lose a child? I don't understand the "eye for an eye" statement toward Claudia. I don't see him avenging Claudia by killing her child because of Michael, he doesn't care about Michael except as Jax's stepchild and even THAT wouldn't be enough for him to want to kill Claudia's child over.

I have to wonder if it would be Michael and Claudia loses the baby and he avenges his own shooting (though of course not purposely or knowingly). IF it was Michael, I would hope they would FINALLY give this boy some much needed psychiatric help and jail time and have him realize that he can't keep going around harming people because he's having a bad day and this would show him that the life he wants isn't about killing and gets him AWAY from Sonny and closer with the Q's!


Now Gen you know we cant have that lol. That would mean more screen time for the Q's, a family story, less mob, and Michael learning a lesson from his behavior. Now what kinda of show would that leave us with 8)

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Re: JaSam and Sam Spoilers

Postby Guest » Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:50 pm

Quote genhospchat:
Quote katie28: i would much rather see sam or alexis kill jerry. jason kills people all the time.....BOOOOOOOOOORING!!! :D


Now that I think about it though, Jason killing Jerry makes sense because Jerry caused Jason's father's death, for shooting Robin, all the trouble Jerry's tried to cause in the past with Jason, putting his son in danger when Liz was in the MC hostage situation and the shooting of Michael, so I don't think that Jason killing Jerry is because of Sam but because of all the heartache Jerry caused Jason's family and since this was an opportunity (and valid reason WITH PROOF) for Jason, he took it.


GEN...You've made some great points as to why Jason should be the one to kill Jerry. Jerry has caused A LOT of heartache for Jason and his family.

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Re: JaSam and Sam Spoilers

Postby Guest » Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:52 pm

Quote Taye322: Okay, our thread has been gone long enough, and its not showing up on google. Im going to assume that it no longer exists so this is the "new" spoiler thread.

JaSam...

Kelly was back yesterday and already began taping. (Per Mike Gonzalez Facebook)
a shootout occurs.

Jason witnesses something and assumes both Jerry and Sam are dead.

Sam is taken in Mexico while looking for Michael and Kristina.

Dante goes to get the kids, and Jason searches for Sam.

Jerry...

Jerry takes Kristina before he kidnaps Sam.

The Accident...

The driver isn't anyone suspected. (I'm guessing the SUV that was behind Michael may have caused it)Claudia retaliates before she knows the truth.

Kristina & Michael...

Kiefer knows what happened and has Kristina under her thumb.


Sam gives Alexis a reality check (& shock) concerning Kristina

Alexis lashes out at Sam

Dante goes to get the kids, and Jason searches for Sam

Jason is not back in PC until after finding Sam and shooting it out with Jerry

Jerry is going to get killed off for kidnapping Sam

Kristina returns and Keifer has her under his thumb. He knows what he knows and it gets bad





Could the SUV have possibly been driven by Jerry? ~)

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Re: JaSam and Sam Spoilers

Postby genhospchat » Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:52 pm

Quote Taye322:
Quote genhospchat:
Quote katie28: so, i have speculation about the whole "car accident" thing. i think that jerry is back, and he was the one in the SUV, and he is actually the one responsible for Claudia's accident...part of a ploy perhaps. but i have a question, how is it that three people on the road do not know if they hit another car, causing it to flip over? i drove over a speed bump the other day, and well, i felt it. and if they swerved in time to miss her car and it flipped, wouldn't you have looked back?? or heard the loud crash. cars aren't as light as feathers. i know, i know...it's a soap. anyway, i still say it was the suv and it was jerry driving. he will teach claudia what it is like to lose a child. eye for an eye kinda thing.


It's the same as when Sam was hit, it could have been Liz or Monica or Nik (wasn't it?) that hit her yet NO ONE remembered doing it yet they ALL had damage to their vehicles and don't know how! The only valid one was Monica because she was drunk and it turned out to be her!

I like the idea that it was Jerry driving BUT did Jerry lose a child? I don't understand the "eye for an eye" statement toward Claudia. I don't see him avenging Claudia by killing her child because of Michael, he doesn't care about Michael except as Jax's stepchild and even THAT wouldn't be enough for him to want to kill Claudia's child over.

I have to wonder if it would be Michael and Claudia loses the baby and he avenges his own shooting (though of course not purposely or knowingly). IF it was Michael, I would hope they would FINALLY give this boy some much needed psychiatric help and jail time and have him realize that he can't keep going around harming people because he's having a bad day and this would show him that the life he wants isn't about killing and gets him AWAY from Sonny and closer with the Q's!


Now Gen you know we cant have that lol. That would mean more screen time for the Q's, a family story, less mob, and Michael learning a lesson from his behavior. Now what kinda of show would that leave us with 8)


*smack myself on the forehead* You are SO RIGHT Taye, WHATEVER was I thinking, I forgot this is NOT the GH that it used to be. This answers your question though, of what show it WOULD be had this happened, the GH of MANY YEARS ago...when it was good and made sense!

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Re: JaSam and Sam Spoilers

Postby Guest » Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:54 pm

Quote genhospchat:
Quote katie28: so, i have speculation about the whole "car accident" thing. i think that jerry is back, and he was the one in the SUV, and he is actually the one responsible for Claudia's accident...part of a ploy perhaps. but i have a question, how is it that three people on the road do not know if they hit another car, causing it to flip over? i drove over a speed bump the other day, and well, i felt it. and if they swerved in time to miss her car and it flipped, wouldn't you have looked back?? or heard the loud crash. cars aren't as light as feathers. i know, i know...it's a soap. anyway, i still say it was the suv and it was jerry driving. he will teach claudia what it is like to lose a child. eye for an eye kinda thing.


It's the same as when Sam was hit, it could have been Liz or Monica or Nik (wasn't it?) that hit her yet NO ONE remembered doing it yet they ALL had damage to their vehicles and don't know how! The only valid one was Monica because she was drunk and it turned out to be her!

I like the idea that it was Jerry driving BUT did Jerry lose a child? I don't understand the "eye for an eye" statement toward Claudia. I don't see him avenging Claudia by killing her child because of Michael, he doesn't care about Michael except as Jax's stepchild and even THAT wouldn't be enough for him to want to kill Claudia's child over.

I have to wonder if it would be Michael and Claudia loses the baby and he avenges his own shooting (though of course not purposely or knowingly). IF it was Michael, I would hope they would FINALLY give this boy some much needed psychiatric help and jail time and have him realize that he can't keep going around harming people because he's having a bad day and this would show him that the life he wants isn't about killing and gets him AWAY from Sonny and closer with the Q's!


i think that jerry feels somewhat responsible for what happened to michael, but i think that he does it to make everyone else think they did it, ya know? the spoilers are saying that jerry goes after kristina and michael. well, maybe it is part of his plan. i know there are holes in my theories, but i still think it's possible. maybe it is more about michael and less about claudia??

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Re: JaSam and Sam Spoilers

Postby genhospchat » Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:07 pm

Quote katie28:
Quote genhospchat:
Quote katie28: so, i have speculation about the whole "car accident" thing. i think that jerry is back, and he was the one in the SUV, and he is actually the one responsible for Claudia's accident...part of a ploy perhaps. but i have a question, how is it that three people on the road do not know if they hit another car, causing it to flip over? i drove over a speed bump the other day, and well, i felt it. and if they swerved in time to miss her car and it flipped, wouldn't you have looked back?? or heard the loud crash. cars aren't as light as feathers. i know, i know...it's a soap. anyway, i still say it was the suv and it was jerry driving. he will teach claudia what it is like to lose a child. eye for an eye kinda thing.


It's the same as when Sam was hit, it could have been Liz or Monica or Nik (wasn't it?) that hit her yet NO ONE remembered doing it yet they ALL had damage to their vehicles and don't know how! The only valid one was Monica because she was drunk and it turned out to be her!

I like the idea that it was Jerry driving BUT did Jerry lose a child? I don't understand the "eye for an eye" statement toward Claudia. I don't see him avenging Claudia by killing her child because of Michael, he doesn't care about Michael except as Jax's stepchild and even THAT wouldn't be enough for him to want to kill Claudia's child over.

I have to wonder if it would be Michael and Claudia loses the baby and he avenges his own shooting (though of course not purposely or knowingly). IF it was Michael, I would hope they would FINALLY give this boy some much needed psychiatric help and jail time and have him realize that he can't keep going around harming people because he's having a bad day and this would show him that the life he wants isn't about killing and gets him AWAY from Sonny and closer with the Q's!


i think that jerry feels somewhat responsible for what happened to michael, but i think that he does it to make everyone else think they did it, ya know? the spoilers are saying that jerry goes after kristina and michael. well, maybe it is part of his plan. i know there are holes in my theories, but i still think it's possible. maybe it is more about michael and less about claudia??


If Jerry were doing this because he feels bad about Michael, he wouldn't allow Michael to think he did it. Perhaps he takes Michael and Kristina away so that THEY don't get in trouble for it? OR this is all just another plot point to have Jason and Sam in a scene together and NONE OF IT will make sense or there will be NO reasoning for it!

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Re: JaSam and Sam Spoilers

Postby Guest » Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:16 pm

Quote genhospchat:
Quote Taye322:
Quote genhospchat: SERIOUSLY??? Jerry gets killed off for kidnapping Sam? Never mind what he did during the MC hostage situation (shooting Robin, causing Alan's heart attack and subsequent death), or that he hired Devlin to shoot Sonny and Devlin missed and hit Michael BUT BECAUSE he kidnapped Sam for the second time?


Hi Gen :-)

Lol, you make a good point. Jerry has been doing terrible things to PC since he docked and this is his final curtain call?. Dont get me wrong, I love that Jason avenges Sam but you're right, Jerry should have been dead after Allan died from the stress of bieng held hostage. Chalk it up to the writers finally running out of story for the character and using that to further the JaSam story.(i know you hate that, sorry)


Hi Taye! No need to be sorry, that's how you feel BUT the fact that they did NOTHING to avenge Alan's death (since that's the point of Jerry's demise is avenging Sam's kidnapping AGAIN) who is a vet to the show and was killed off because of Jerry, I find it sad that Sam is the reason for Jerry's demise.

Couldn't they have done something else to have JaSam scenes BESIDES THIS??!! Heck, if these two are suppose to be around each other, does it ALWAYS have to be in an adventure and someone getting killed? I mean no offense to Sam fans but why if Sam is SUCH a strong, independent, kick a$$ character does it always have to be Jason rescuing her in situations that she gets HERSELF into? How are non-Sam fans suppose to feel sympathy for her when she gets herself in trouble and needs someone else to get her out of these situations all the time? To me, this isn't a great love story being told, this is a story of a woman who can't mind her business (in this case yes it's her sister but this story has been told SO MANY times, it's dull) and SOMEONE (Jason) has to CONSTANTLY save her because she can't seem to save herself EVER.

Where's the love in THAT story? The first time around, JaSam showed love building and then they just went on adventures and the love part disappeared to see two people running around with guns and AGAIN we see that again. If they want people to believe that Jason and Sam should be together, then how about them CREATE a relationship, not run around in shoot em ups JUST to give them scenes together (which is why I don't believe they are meant to be because rescuing a woman is NOT love but just Jason's way with ALL women, men and children).

Again, I mean no disrespect to you Taye or any Sam fan but adventure and rescue isn't love.


GEN...I have a question for you. I have only been watching GH for a little over 7 years now and of course, there are lots of things from the past that I don't really know, but didn't Luke and Laura's love story revolve around adventure and rescue? Like I said, I didn't watch during that time (I was only a few years old then), so I could be wrong. Also, you mentioned Sam always needing Jason's help, but I remember when Jason and Sam were a couple, Elizabeth would always seek out Jason's help in various situations. I know that you have a strong opinion regarding your love of Liason and your disdain for JaSam (which is fine, because we all have our own opinions and likes/dislikes of characters/couples), so please don't think that I am trying to antagonize you. I just want you and I to be able to converse on this MB in a civil manner and I PROMISE to do my part to keep our discussions from turning ugly. :) I would just like your opinion and the facts since you have been watching longer than I have. I realized from reading posts by long time viewers, that their opinions are usually different than mine, but like I said, I have only been watching for 7 years and I can only base my opinions on what I have witnessed for the past 7 years, like for example, A LOT of people don't like the mob scene and they remember when it used to not be an integral part of GH, but ever since I have been watching, the mob scenes are what I am pretty much used to. Heck, I personally like the mob scenes. I just don't like them when a child is involved in ANY way, like when Michael was shot. I thought that TPTB messed up royally with that storyline. I NEVER like to see a child get hurt, abused, shot at, or killed just to have a storyline. I personally think that is when the writers take the show to the extreme. Sorry GEN, for the long post. I'll try to do better next time. And I also want to apologize for any bad things that were said to you from me in the past. I've learned that arguing on this MB does no good. Everyone has their own opinions, and neither I nor anyone else can change those opinions, so what is the point of arguing and character (or poster) bashing. It really is uncalled for and I have finally realized the error of my ways. So, please except my heartfelt apology. :]

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Re: JaSam and Sam Spoilers

Postby Guest » Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:18 pm

Quote LEVIC: Okay I am sick and tried of Jerry causing Sam trouble for 2 years now. We thought he died in the explosion but he didn't while I was hoping he was plus I don't like Jerry at all. Well, if he brings Jason and Sam together then I will like him for that. Now, if Jerry is really going to die why don't Jason shoot 3 times in the head, shoot 3 times in the heart, and possiably break his neck. Can't wait for JaSam. When are they going to kiss????


Hopefully soon!!! :D

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Re: JaSam and Sam Spoilers

Postby Guest » Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:20 pm

Quote genhospchat:
Quote katie28:
Quote genhospchat:
Quote katie28: so, i have speculation about the whole "car accident" thing. i think that jerry is back, and he was the one in the SUV, and he is actually the one responsible for Claudia's accident...part of a ploy perhaps. but i have a question, how is it that three people on the road do not know if they hit another car, causing it to flip over? i drove over a speed bump the other day, and well, i felt it. and if they swerved in time to miss her car and it flipped, wouldn't you have looked back?? or heard the loud crash. cars aren't as light as feathers. i know, i know...it's a soap. anyway, i still say it was the suv and it was jerry driving. he will teach claudia what it is like to lose a child. eye for an eye kinda thing.


It's the same as when Sam was hit, it could have been Liz or Monica or Nik (wasn't it?) that hit her yet NO ONE remembered doing it yet they ALL had damage to their vehicles and don't know how! The only valid one was Monica because she was drunk and it turned out to be her!

I like the idea that it was Jerry driving BUT did Jerry lose a child? I don't understand the "eye for an eye" statement toward Claudia. I don't see him avenging Claudia by killing her child because of Michael, he doesn't care about Michael except as Jax's stepchild and even THAT wouldn't be enough for him to want to kill Claudia's child over.

I have to wonder if it would be Michael and Claudia loses the baby and he avenges his own shooting (though of course not purposely or knowingly). IF it was Michael, I would hope they would FINALLY give this boy some much needed psychiatric help and jail time and have him realize that he can't keep going around harming people because he's having a bad day and this would show him that the life he wants isn't about killing and gets him AWAY from Sonny and closer with the Q's!


i think that jerry feels somewhat responsible for what happened to michael, but i think that he does it to make everyone else think they did it, ya know? the spoilers are saying that jerry goes after kristina and michael. well, maybe it is part of his plan. i know there are holes in my theories, but i still think it's possible. maybe it is more about michael and less about claudia??


If Jerry were doing this because he feels bad about Michael, he wouldn't allow Michael to think he did it. Perhaps he takes Michael and Kristina away so that THEY don't get in trouble for it? OR this is all just another plot point to have Jason and Sam in a scene together and NONE OF IT will make sense or there will be NO reasoning for it!


i think it is more about michael, and yes, probably sam and jason as well. and not feeling bad for mike. there were rumors that jerry tries to use mike against jason

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Re: JaSam and Sam Spoilers

Postby Guest » Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:33 pm

Quote genhospchat:
Quote katie28:
Quote Taye322: I think Sam and Liz could take Jerry out no problem, and it would be a change of pace for GH......we can only wish


i would love to see liz kick some serious booooooty! :D
ya know, even spinelli, but he would probably cry about it or something


How about Monica? For what Jerry did her family (took away the love of her life), I'd like to see her get some of her old spunk back and give it to him!

It would be nice if it was a non-mob related reason BUT I guess Jason's reasons are personal to his family as well!


Oh yeah, Monica would be a good person to get revenge on Jerry for what he did to Alan and Emily. I really hated that the writers felt that they had to kill Alan off. It was a stupid move on their part. As much as I love "Alan the Ghost," I do miss Alan as a real living person. Well, I guess since Stuart Damon is joining ATWT now, we won't see Alan's ghost anymore. %(


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