Princessrose17 wrote: shuby wrote:
Princessrose17 wrote:Two totally different situations. Hope and Wyatt were in a relationship. Liam constantly pursued Hope until she finally decided to date brothers ultimately choosing Liam. As soon as Liam got Hope he turned back into jerk mode having tempertantrums when she wouldn't do what he wanted. Hope asked him to show up at a certain place and time so they can start there life. He had no intention of showing up. He had to be talked into it by Ivy and Ally. He left at the very last possible minute to get there without letting Hope know he was on the way. Wyatt told her Liam not showing up proved she deserved better and convinced her he was the better man for her. She excepted his proposal and married him. No way the same as cheating on your husband with his father.
Hope didn't know Ivy and Ally had to talk Liam into meeting her and realistically a norman person would have at least waited the next day to see if Liam was going to show other posters do say that Hope has the mind of a teenager, there you go
Not knowing Ivy and Ally had to talk Liam into going had nothing to do with it. Why would she wait? Her and Liam were having problems because she was not doing what he wanted. She gave him an ultimatum to show up at a certain place and time so they could start there life together. Waiting isn't an ultimatum. He chose to drag his feet and had to be forced to go. He left on the very last fight that would get him there on time. He should have called Hope and told her he was on the way but he didn't. He had plenty of time to get there if he would have left right away. He didn't because he was pouting like a child. Hope had zero reason to believe he was on the way. Like always Liam believed his actions wouldn't have consequences. He was wrong.
When Liam came home from Australia he told Steffy that they were done. Steffy believing that he was still upset over Ivy said that she didn't accept that they were done. Steffy spend days calling and texting Liam. While Liam was away Steffy and Wyatt became close friends but that was all. Steffy said that she couldn't move on until she heard Liam tell her again that it was really over as she wasn't accepting his text. Wyatt had been saying the same things to Steffy that he had said to Hope about their relationship with Liam. Steffy continued to believe that Liam would return to her, Hope had no such faith in his love for her. She allowed herself to be talked out of even making an attempt to contact Liam. But this wasn't the first time that Hope was suppose to start a life with Liam but instead of talking to the man she supposedly loves so very much, she runs off with Wyatt both times. The second time she decides to marry Wyatt.
Let's look at Steffy again. Her supposedly committed husband who has been going overboard gifting Sally with riches beyond her dreams. Steffy warns Liam that Sally may look at his generosity and misinterpret its meaning but Liam just continues on his merry way totally disregarding what his wife has to say. Then Liam decides to stage a sit in and once again Steffy tells his that this is a very dangerous think to do. When Liam didn't show up for Hope at least he was trying to save a life. This time Liam was trying to save a dream not a life. Bill offered Spectra Fashions a life just not at the location of dream. This wasn't good enough for Liam. After sacrificing his life for Sally's dream location he turns around and in the spirit of complete honesty tells his wife that Sally told him that she loved him and that they kissed twice. Yes the kisses did upset Steffy but it was the thought that he was kissing her while Steffy had been risking her life to locate her husband in a pile of unstable rubble but her husband was not even thinking about her at all because he was busy kissing a woman who had just declared her love for him. Then Mr. Complete Honesty can't tell his wife that he has no loving feelings for Sally and that he is not becoming involved with her. She leaves saying she can't be with a man that doesn't put her first and she doesn't want to be sharing him again. (Oh how I wish she would remember that feeling right now.) One might say that Steffy was giving Liam an ultimatum and he fell short of the mark.
Bill takes the time to track her down. Liam could track Hope all the way to a hotel room in Hawaii but he couldn't locate his wife. I guess this time the difference was Steffy let him know why she was leaving but Hope didn't bother to tell him.
Hope marries the brother, has on going sex and makes a baby. Steffy has sex once with the Father. They both gave up faith in Liam's love but at least in Steffy's case there was another woman involved.
The one thing that we both agree on is that Liam does not believe that there should be consequences for his actions. Liam has taken zero responsibility for the sorry state of his marriage. He has place the total blame on Steffy and she has accepted that blame without ever once reminding Liam of the role that he played in her making the mistake of seeking comfort in the arms of a man that said she comes first.