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Re: Enough with the pity

Postby Rollina » Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:40 pm

txwildcat wrote:
stargaze wrote:
JayCee_II wrote:That's Steffy. She has no problem breaking up other people's relationships, but it's the end of the world when it happens to her. IMO, she hasn't suffered enough. Looking forward to her humiliation when others find out what she did.
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So far we have only seen Wyatt being supportive of Liam. Katie understands why Steffy and Bill connected when Steffy felt that Liam betrayed her. Now for those of you who want to say it was only a kiss, Liam is the one that stated he had betrayed his vows. It was only a couple of kisses because that was all time and being buried under a pile of rubble permitted. When Steffy and Bill found them and Steffy was hugging him he was focused on Sally and not his wife.

Liam knew that he had been putting Sally before Steffy for months. But of course Liam knows that Steffy is use to this behavior from him so to him he just saw this as a simple thing that Steffy has forgiven him for before so all he has to say is you are the one that I want.


Exactly. Enough said.


I totally agree...

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Re: Enough with the pity

Postby happens » Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:18 pm

txwildcat wrote:
stargaze wrote:
JayCee_II wrote:That's Steffy. She has no problem breaking up other people's relationships, but it's the end of the world when it happens to her. IMO, she hasn't suffered enough. Looking forward to her humiliation when others find out what she did.
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So far we have only seen Wyatt being supportive of Liam. Katie understands why Steffy and Bill connected when Steffy felt that Liam betrayed her. Now for those of you who want to say it was only a kiss, Liam is the one that stated he had betrayed his vows. It was only a couple of kisses because that was all time and being buried under a pile of rubble permitted. When Steffy and Bill found them and Steffy was hugging him he was focused on Sally and not his wife.

Liam knew that he had been putting Sally before Steffy for months. But of course Liam knows that Steffy is use to this behavior from him so to him he just saw this as a simple thing that Steffy has forgiven him for before so all he has to say is you are the one that I want.


Exactly. Enough said.

Absolutely good post stargaze!!!! :D

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Re: Enough with the pity

Postby JayCee_II » Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:24 pm

Lady Jana wrote:I am not happy with the way Liam has treated Steffy. Not saying Steffy didn't make a mistake, but her's she was vulnerable and Bill smoozed her ad she was angry and she listened to his blandisments. BUT she realized immediately afterwards that she did wrong. At this point the baby has been proven to be Liam's, so Steffy already was probably pregnant when she succumbed to Bill. Part of her getting upset and listening to Bill may have been due to raging hormones! Steffy wasn't her normal self and she STILL isn't acting like she usually does!

The fact that Liam is saying that by saying a marriage re-vow made his emotional affair with Sally FORGIVABLE, but Steffy's ONS with Bill UNFORGIVABLE is total crap!! Liam KNOWS he stepped over emotional lines with Sally, thought about it, and felt that "Vow Renewal" would be a good way to weasel out of his transgressions! I think one of the reasons that Liam is being so Hard Nosed about giving Steffy an inch is because Liam is secretly still panting to get together with Sally!!! That is why he is saying that the "Vow Renewal" removes HIS faults but not Steff's!! I think Liam would have found some other excuse to walk away from Steffy, pregnant or not, if this transgression hadn't popped up and given him the perfect out! Boy, wait till he finds out Hope is here too and ready to give him "sympathy" also!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Wait a minute! Steffy realized immediately AFTERWARDS that she did wrong? How about BEFORE? She knew she was wrong at the first kiss. She knew she was wrong before her clothes started coming off. She knew she was wrong when she gave Bill the green light. She crossed a few well-defined lines before she got to the ultimate line. Can't blame it on alcohol or drugs so blame it on hormones? She still said 'yes' at every point where she had a chance to say 'no'.

Also, on the night of the vow renewal, Liam had no idea there was anything for him to forgive. He thought he had the most wonderful and perfect wife who had the good grace to forgive him and make a fresh start. She said those vows with a grievous lie in her heart. They had make up sex with the stink of his father still on her. That's a lot to forgive. Liam is the injured party and should be able to take his time with it.

BTW, we never saw Liam panting to get together with Sally. In fact, more than once, he made it very clear to Sally that he is married and loves his wife. And, if he were so eager to get with Sally, why did he give her the brush off when she followed him to the hotel?
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Re: Enough with the pity

Postby Stubby » Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:04 pm

I so agree with you ladies.

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Re: Enough with the pity

Postby tiga » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:59 pm

JayCee_II wrote:
Lady Jana wrote:I am not happy with the way Liam has treated Steffy. Not saying Steffy didn't make a mistake, but her's she was vulnerable and Bill smoozed her ad she was angry and she listened to his blandisments. BUT she realized immediately afterwards that she did wrong. At this point the baby has been proven to be Liam's, so Steffy already was probably pregnant when she succumbed to Bill. Part of her getting upset and listening to Bill may have been due to raging hormones! Steffy wasn't her normal self and she STILL isn't acting like she usually does!

The fact that Liam is saying that by saying a marriage re-vow made his emotional affair with Sally FORGIVABLE, but Steffy's ONS with Bill UNFORGIVABLE is total crap!! Liam KNOWS he stepped over emotional lines with Sally, thought about it, and felt that "Vow Renewal" would be a good way to weasel out of his transgressions! I think one of the reasons that Liam is being so Hard Nosed about giving Steffy an inch is because Liam is secretly still panting to get together with Sally!!! That is why he is saying that the "Vow Renewal" removes HIS faults but not Steff's!! I think Liam would have found some other excuse to walk away from Steffy, pregnant or not, if this transgression hadn't popped up and given him the perfect out! Boy, wait till he finds out Hope is here too and ready to give him "sympathy" also!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Wait a minute! Steffy realized immediately AFTERWARDS that she did wrong? How about BEFORE? She knew she was wrong at the first kiss. She knew she was wrong before her clothes started coming off. She knew she was wrong when she gave Bill the green light. She crossed a few well-defined lines before she got to the ultimate line. Can't blame it on alcohol or drugs so blame it on hormones? She still said 'yes' at every point where she had a chance to say 'no'.

Also, on the night of the vow renewal, Liam had no idea there was anything for him to forgive. He thought he had the most wonderful and perfect wife who had the good grace to forgive him and make a fresh start. She said those vows with a grievous lie in her heart. They had make up sex with the stink of his father still on her. That's a lot to forgive. Liam is the injured party and should be able to take his time with it.

BTW, we never saw Liam panting to get together with Sally. In fact, more than once, he made it very clear to Sally that he is married and loves his wife. And, if he were so eager to get with Sally, why did he give her the brush off when she followed him to the hotel?
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spot on JAYCEE :D

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Re: Enough with the pity

Postby Johnlives » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:21 pm

JayCee_II wrote:
stargaze wrote:
JayCee_II wrote:That's Steffy. She has no problem breaking up other people's relationships, but it's the end of the world when it happens to her. IMO, she hasn't suffered enough. Looking forward to her humiliation when others find out what she did.
'



So far we have only seen Wyatt being supportive of Liam. Katie understands why Steffy and Bill connected when Steffy felt that Liam betrayed her. Now for those of you who want to say it was only a kiss, Liam is the one that stated he had betrayed his vows. It was only a couple of kisses because that was all time and being buried under a pile of rubble permitted. When Steffy and Bill found them and Steffy was hugging him he was focused on Sally and not his wife.

Liam knew that he had been putting Sally before Steffy for months. But of course Liam knows that Steffy is use to this behavior from him so to him he just saw this as a simple thing that Steffy has forgiven him for before so all he has to say is you are the one that I want.

Well, none of this excuses or justifies Steffy banging Liam's father. That's what ended her marriage. That's why she's on the couch wrapped in a blanket blowing snot.

But, if we're talking background, let's go back a little further. If Steffy hadn't succeeded in breaking up Sally's relationship with Thomas, there would have been no reason for Liam to step into the breach to help Sally. Steffy thought she was so slick because she accomplished her mission. Well, say hello unintended consequences. She brought all of this on herself. This is perfect karma for Steffy.
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It is karma, but I feel very sorry for her.

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Re: Enough with the pity

Postby happens » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:32 pm

JayCee_II wrote:
Lady Jana wrote:I am not happy with the way Liam has treated Steffy. Not saying Steffy didn't make a mistake, but her's she was vulnerable and Bill smoozed her ad she was angry and she listened to his blandisments. BUT she realized immediately afterwards that she did wrong. At this point the baby has been proven to be Liam's, so Steffy already was probably pregnant when she succumbed to Bill. Part of her getting upset and listening to Bill may have been due to raging hormones! Steffy wasn't her normal self and she STILL isn't acting like she usually does!

The fact that Liam is saying that by saying a marriage re-vow made his emotional affair with Sally FORGIVABLE, but Steffy's ONS with Bill UNFORGIVABLE is total crap!! Liam KNOWS he stepped over emotional lines with Sally, thought about it, and felt that "Vow Renewal" would be a good way to weasel out of his transgressions! I think one of the reasons that Liam is being so Hard Nosed about giving Steffy an inch is because Liam is secretly still panting to get together with Sally!!! That is why he is saying that the "Vow Renewal" removes HIS faults but not Steff's!! I think Liam would have found some other excuse to walk away from Steffy, pregnant or not, if this transgression hadn't popped up and given him the perfect out! Boy, wait till he finds out Hope is here too and ready to give him "sympathy" also!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Wait a minute! Steffy realized immediately AFTERWARDS that she did wrong? How about BEFORE? She knew she was wrong at the first kiss. She knew she was wrong before her clothes started coming off. She knew she was wrong when she gave Bill the green light. She crossed a few well-defined lines before she got to the ultimate line. Can't blame it on alcohol or drugs so blame it on hormones? She still said 'yes' at every point where she had a chance to say 'no'.

Also, on the night of the vow renewal, Liam had no idea there was anything for him to forgive. He thought he had the most wonderful and perfect wife who had the good grace to forgive him and make a fresh start. She said those vows with a grievous lie in her heart. They had make up sex with the stink of his father still on her. That's a lot to forgive. Liam is the injured party and should be able to take his time with it.

BTW, we never saw Liam panting to get together with Sally. In fact, more than once, he made it very clear to Sally that he is married and loves his wife. And, if he were so eager to get with Sally, why did he give her the brush off when she followed him to the hotel?
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Yes Liam made it crystal clear to Sally he was in love with his wife while he was popping open the champagne on the private jet ride where he was gifting her an additional 13 mil in architects. He also made it crystal clear when he was smiling ear to ear telling her he was gifting her a 50 mil building. He also made it crystal clear how much he loved his wife when he laid down his life for Sally then kissed her in the rubble. Liam's words don't match his actions. No one said he was eager to get with Sally, just that he laid down his life for her. Liam didn't have sex with Hope after the dating game even while they were engaged so Liam's used to going without sex. Just give him a couch, a Bob Hope movie, a damsel in distress and he's all set. Liam is the injured party my behind. He would have been injured or dead preferably had Steffy not saved his azz when he threw himself into the middle of an implosion.

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Re: Enough with the pity

Postby dew drops » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:16 pm

JayCee_II wrote:
stargaze wrote:
JayCee_II wrote:That's Steffy. She has no problem breaking up other people's relationships, but it's the end of the world when it happens to her. IMO, she hasn't suffered enough. Looking forward to her humiliation when others find out what she did.
'



So far we have only seen Wyatt being supportive of Liam. Katie understands why Steffy and Bill connected when Steffy felt that Liam betrayed her. Now for those of you who want to say it was only a kiss, Liam is the one that stated he had betrayed his vows. It was only a couple of kisses because that was all time and being buried under a pile of rubble permitted. When Steffy and Bill found them and Steffy was hugging him he was focused on Sally and not his wife.

Liam knew that he had been putting Sally before Steffy for months. But of course Liam knows that Steffy is use to this behavior from him so to him he just saw this as a simple thing that Steffy has forgiven him for before so all he has to say is you are the one that I want.

Well, none of this excuses or justifies Steffy banging Liam's father. That's what ended her marriage. That's why she's on the couch wrapped in a blanket blowing snot.

But, if we're talking background, let's go back a little further. If Steffy hadn't succeeded in breaking up Sally's relationship with Thomas, there would have been no reason for Liam to step into the breach to help Sally. Steffy thought she was so slick because she accomplished her mission. Well, say hello unintended consequences. She brought all of this on herself. This is perfect karma for Steffy.
'


you have said it all :!:

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Re: Enough with the pity

Postby tiga » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:30 pm

Liam knows he behaved like a jerk and i still feel it was sally who kissed liam despite what he said

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Re: Enough with the pity

Postby stargaze » Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:33 am

JayCee_II wrote:
Lady Jana wrote:I am not happy with the way Liam has treated Steffy. Not saying Steffy didn't make a mistake, but her's she was vulnerable and Bill smoozed her ad she was angry and she listened to his blandisments. BUT she realized immediately afterwards that she did wrong. At this point the baby has been proven to be Liam's, so Steffy already was probably pregnant when she succumbed to Bill. Part of her getting upset and listening to Bill may have been due to raging hormones! Steffy wasn't her normal self and she STILL isn't acting like she usually does!

The fact that Liam is saying that by saying a marriage re-vow made his emotional affair with Sally FORGIVABLE, but Steffy's ONS with Bill UNFORGIVABLE is total crap!! Liam KNOWS he stepped over emotional lines with Sally, thought about it, and felt that "Vow Renewal" would be a good way to weasel out of his transgressions! I think one of the reasons that Liam is being so Hard Nosed about giving Steffy an inch is because Liam is secretly still panting to get together with Sally!!! That is why he is saying that the "Vow Renewal" removes HIS faults but not Steff's!! I think Liam would have found some other excuse to walk away from Steffy, pregnant or not, if this transgression hadn't popped up and given him the perfect out! Boy, wait till he finds out Hope is here too and ready to give him "sympathy" also!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Wait a minute! Steffy realized immediately AFTERWARDS that she did wrong? How about BEFORE? She knew she was wrong at the first kiss. She knew she was wrong before her clothes started coming off. She knew she was wrong when she gave Bill the green light. She crossed a few well-defined lines before she got to the ultimate line. Can't blame it on alcohol or drugs so blame it on hormones? She still said 'yes' at every point where she had a chance to say 'no'.

Also, on the night of the vow renewal, Liam had no idea there was anything for him to forgive. He thought he had the most wonderful and perfect wife who had the good grace to forgive him and make a fresh start. She said those vows with a grievous lie in her heart. They had make up sex with the stink of his father still on her. That's a lot to forgive. Liam is the injured party and should be able to take his time with it.

BTW, we never saw Liam panting to get together with Sally. In fact, more than once, he made it very clear to Sally that he is married and loves his wife. And, if he were so eager to get with Sally, why did he give her the brush off when she followed him to the hotel?
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Steffy came home with the intention of telling Liam what she did. Liam could see that she was having trouble telling him what had happened to her. Liam was just so glad that she was able to forgive his transgressions that he kept shutting her down when she was still working up the courage to tell him why she was able to forgive. There may have been a part of Liam that knew that he wouldn't like what she had to say so he just kept saying that it wasn't important. Liam knows that Steffy prefers to not talk about anything she has done wrong and because he doesn't really want to hear about it he just keeps talking about them forgiving each other and starting fresh by renewing their vows.

Why does Liam brush off Sally? Well Steffy slept with Bill while still married to Liam, so Liam wants to make sure that he is not guilty of committing the same sin. Instead Liam goes to an attorney to have annulment papers drawn up which is the fastest way out of the marriage.


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