Quote alanadz:Quote YR2013:Quote JRTA:Quote YR2013:Quote alanadz: No one comes before his kids. He said and he lived it. I remember when he and Phyllis first got married, she moved out of her big beautiful penthouse and into that tiny tack house, so that Nick could see Noah EVERY DAY. It was a very smart move on her part.
Another bait thread? How many do put up a day? Nick isn't father of the year and Phyllis wasn't mother of the year. They ALL have their faults and some good too, but don't try to paint it like their are so GREAT because they aren't. ~)
Glad I am not the only one that sees it.
As to previous comments, it's got nothing to do with a "bad marriage". If that was the case, Nick should never have been with Phyllis because that was a train wreck from the start. And before you go blaming Sharon, sorry but it's on NICK. Sharon couldn't have been in his marriage to Phyllis, if he didn't want her there.
Nick has always been about himself. That has never and will never change. Being a good father is even about Nick, because he needs to look like a better father then his own, and needs to feel superior to all.
Nick is all wonderful and awesome now because he's Summer's father but I'm going to wait to see what he is next week. :D Nick is a tool, he was during his marriage to Sharon when he cheated on her and he was a tool during his marriage to Phyllis when he cheated on her too. I don't think any character on the show has a good marriage because if they are happy and blissful today, by next week the writers have them cheating and lying to each.
Maybe you don't understand what the thread is about. It's about GOOD FATHERS. I didn't say anything about Nick being a good HUSBAND to Sharon or Phyllis.
I understand, and if you're telling me to stay on topic, then you should do the same. I wouldn't call Nick or Billy good fathers because the things they do, the decisions they make, "good fathers" don't do. Good fathers think about their kids, their homes, their marriages, and their responsibilities before they make decisions that will affect their children's lives. IF Nick was such a great dad, or good dad as you put it, he would have been responsible and do a proper DNA test in the first place for Summer. He wouldn't have waited 18 long years later to do one because his hand was forced. HE and HE alone has turned his child's life up side down and yes, you can blame it ALL on Sharon because some how that absolves Nick of all responsibilities but it doesn't. IF Nick was a good father, he would never have married his daughter aunt, but that's good now because at least he's not with Sharon right? How does a father marrying his child's aunt make him a good dad? If Billy boy was a good dad he wouldn't buy a baby on the black market for his spoiled brat wife. What will these children have to live with when they grow up? What consequences will their children face because of the decisions their "good father" made?