Quote alanadz:Quote YR2013:Quote JRTA:Quote alanadz:Quote YR2013:Quote JRTA:Quote YR2013:Quote alanadz: No one comes before his kids. He said and he lived it. I remember when he and Phyllis first got married, she moved out of her big beautiful penthouse and into that tiny tack house, so that Nick could see Noah EVERY DAY. It was a very smart move on her part.
Another bait thread? How many do put up a day? Nick isn't father of the year and Phyllis wasn't mother of the year. They ALL have their faults and some good too, but don't try to paint it like their are so GREAT because they aren't. ~)
Glad I am not the only one that sees it.
As to previous comments, it's got nothing to do with a "bad marriage". If that was the case, Nick should never have been with Phyllis because that was a train wreck from the start. And before you go blaming Sharon, sorry but it's on NICK. Sharon couldn't have been in his marriage to Phyllis, if he didn't want her there.
Nick has always been about himself. That has never and will never change. Being a good father is even about Nick, because he needs to look like a better father then his own, and needs to feel superior to all.
Nick is all wonderful and awesome now because he's Summer's father but I'm going to wait to see what he is next week. :D Nick is a tool, he was during his marriage to Sharon when he cheated on her and he was a tool during his marriage to Phyllis when he cheated on her too. I don't think any character on the show has a good marriage because if they are happy and blissful today, by next week the writers have them cheating and lying to each.
Maybe you don't understand what the thread is about. It's about GOOD FATHERS. I didn't say anything about Nick being a good HUSBAND to Sharon or Phyllis.
You were the one that brought marriage into it. Saying that Nick getting out of a "bad marriage" doesn't make him a bad father. But having affairs, jumping from woman to woman, playing those women against each other, does make him a bad father.
No matter how you brush it, Sharon was in Phick's marriage because Nick allowed it and wanted it. Just like Phyllis was in Shick's because Nick wanted it. He's a selfish @$$ who thinks only of #1 first, and that will always be Nick. Painting him as anything but is pure and utter BS.
Bravo, thank you for an awesome post that gets to the point.
I will say it again (and JM said it too) Nick is a great father, and a lousy husband. People can walk and chew gum at the same time.
Sorry, regardless of what JM thinks, this does not make Nick a good father. A good father puts his child first. He does not jump from woman to woman. He does not lie and cheat. He sets an example of how to do things right, not how to do everything wrong.
Nick may not be the worse there is, but he is not the wonderful father you want to paint him as.