Jack spoiler!

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Re: Jack spoiler!

Postby Squish » Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:33 pm

Quote countryMomof4:
Quote Kimmd: If the rumors about Sharon are true, and I think they are,let this be a lesson to us. If Phick fans are smart,(so far they have been) leave Faith alone. If the writers want to go there they will, don't try to force the issue.


I'm sorry but the writers are finishing a story THEY started when Summer was conceived and her paternity was left in question. It has nothing to do with pressure being put on them by a fanbase to write a particular story. ~) JM has said in interviews that he always thought Summer was Jack's.


JG was creative consultant in 2006 when Summer was named Nick's daughter he was head writer/executive producer in 2008, if this were his story and his intentions why didn't he do it then? It just doesn't make any sense to say this was always the intentions it does make sense to say that this was always a possibility, just like there's always a possibility they will change Faith's paternity or there's always a chance that Dru will climb back up that cliff.

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Re: Jack spoiler!

Postby babydylon » Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:39 pm

It was always out there that one day Jack would claim his little sweat pear. Hating on him for it is immature .

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Re: Jack spoiler!

Postby babydylon » Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:43 pm

Quote countryMomof4:
Quote Kimmd: If the rumors about Sharon are true, and I think they are,let this be a lesson to us. If Phick fans are smart,(so far they have been) leave Faith alone. If the writers want to go there they will, don't try to force the issue.


I'm sorry but the writers are finishing a story THEY started when Summer was conceived and her paternity was left in question. It has nothing to do with pressure being put on them by a fanbase to write a particular story. ~) JM has said in interviews that he always thought Summer was Jack's.


Totally agree with this post. Fanbases are the farthest from the writers mind.

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Re: Jack spoiler!

Postby edaem1 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:45 pm

Quote Kimmd:
Quote countryMomof4:
Quote Kimmd: If the rumors about Sharon are true, and I think they are,let this be a lesson to us. If Phick fans are smart,(so far they have been) leave Faith alone. If the writers want to go there they will, don't try to force the issue.


I'm sorry but the writers are finishing a story THEY started when Summer was conceived and her paternity was left in question. It has nothing to do with pressure being put on them by a fanbase to write a particular story. ~) JM has said in interviews that he always thought Summer was Jack's.



I know what JM said and he kept saying it because he hoped it would never happen. Both JM and MS said many times over the years that changing Summer's paternity would destroy Nick. So why do it NOW? Now this would make sense if it were a young leading man like Billy or Adam but 60 year old deadbeat Jack Abbott? It might even make some sense if MS were staying on the show. But this lame, incredibly sloppily written mess?


I totally understand that as a fan you are upset with the originial writer finishing off Summer's paternity the way he envisioned it years ago. The story has not come together the way I would have liked which would have meant that it would have been revealed weeks ago but, you roll with it. But it is hard to empathize when you go after Jack's age.

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Re: Jack spoiler!

Postby FL senior fan » Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:51 pm

Did I miss something; is the Spoiler that Jack DOES succumb to his addiction again (because of Phyllis?)???

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Re: Jack spoiler!

Postby babydylon » Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:58 pm

Jack will have lots to celebrate but he won't do it drinking again. Happy Jack & Summer days of reunion is what we will be seeing.

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Re: Jack spoiler!

Postby Joy T » Sun Jul 07, 2013 4:01 pm

Great posts CountryMom! I love Jack's chracter. He is handsome, always dresses very classy. Jack will be a great Dad to Summer as he certainly treated his step-son Nick very well while married to Nicki. After Victor's hateful remarks about Billy being a loser and saying that he's an addict, a loser and Nicki asking him, "What does that make me"? After that, I hope Nicki leaves Victor and goes back to Jack! I would LOVE to see Victor lose granddaughter and wife to Jack!

As far as Sharon goes, I am hoping that she is not involved in this s/l and she and Nick can finally get their happy ending together.

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Re: Jack spoiler!

Postby mswadel » Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:26 pm

I feel sorry for Summer that she is getting a man old enogh to be her grandfather as her dad. Nick is so much better in age and hopefully it will be changed again when a 'legit' dna test is performed at the lab with all involved there. I don't believe in anything that someone just did at home and brought in, especially with someone like Sharon lurking around every damned place in GC.

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Re: Jack spoiler!

Postby Nutty Nancy » Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:36 pm

Quote Joy T: Great posts CountryMom! I love Jack's chracter. He is handsome, always dresses very classy. Jack will be a great Dad to Summer as he certainly treated his step-son Nick very well while married to Nicki. After Victor's hateful remarks about Billy being a loser and saying that he's an addict, a loser and Nicki asking him, "What does that make me"? After that, I hope Nicki leaves Victor and goes back to Jack! I would LOVE to see Victor lose granddaughter and wife to Jack!

As far as Sharon goes, I am hoping that she is not involved in this s/l and she and Nick can finally get their happy ending together.


I would love to see the storyline go this way. Also, I would like for Abby to tell Victor to stop talking bad about her uncle. He hates that HIS daughter is part Abbott.

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Re: Jack spoiler!

Postby countryMomof4 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:00 pm

Quote Squish:
Quote countryMomof4:
Quote Kimmd: If the rumors about Sharon are true, and I think they are,let this be a lesson to us. If Phick fans are smart,(so far they have been) leave Faith alone. If the writers want to go there they will, don't try to force the issue.


I'm sorry but the writers are finishing a story THEY started when Summer was conceived and her paternity was left in question. It has nothing to do with pressure being put on them by a fanbase to write a particular story. ~) JM has said in interviews that he always thought Summer was Jack's.


JG was creative consultant in 2006 when Summer was named Nick's daughter he was head writer/executive producer in 2008, if this were his story and his intentions why didn't he do it then? It just doesn't make any sense to say this was always the intentions it does make sense to say that this was always a possibility, just like there's always a possibility they will change Faith's paternity or there's always a chance that Dru will climb back up that cliff.


This is JG bio as far as work goes on Y&R

Breakdown Writer: July 13, 2006 - October 2006
Creative Consultant: July 7, 2006 - September 2006
Co-Executive Producer: October 2006 - January 28, 2008**
Head writer: December 26, 2007 - April 21, 2008; October 12, 2012 – Present
Executive Producer: January 29, 2008 - October 2, 2008

He was a CO-EP which means decisions are unanimous not unilateral as they were under MAB when she was both.

He was only EP and HW for a few months ( January to April ) IMO, he didn't change the story then because it was not the time.

I am basing MY opinion on what I saw on screen. An open ended paternity story. Only Nick saw those results. He didn't look happy and left town for a few days. Who does that? It all falls into place with how this is being told now. If it was so clear in the first place that he was Summer's father, then why did SO MANY people think he was lying?

Sorry but fanbases complain all the time and TPTB can't/ won't keep one happy over another. It's all about storytelling with the writers.


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