Why did Nick not want to have a baby with Sharon

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Re: Why did Nick not want to have a baby with Sharon

Postby bukopandan » Mon May 20, 2013 1:37 pm

Quote go2girl: Guilt...he was responsible for her child having a tragic accident. He felt shame from Sharon.

BTW...can you explain how Nick went to a DNA lab and got tested regarding Summer's paternity without a sample from Phyllis? It seems she would know the lab if she submitted a sample for comparison...



G2G, why bother with these posts set up to serve as outlets for Phyl worship and any question asked is just rhetorical! There is no interest in anyone's input. Any replies get trashed. (Yet there's always the getting away with the baiting. Don't get that. It's been nice though not to see the actor's real-life child's pic in avis lately). Every little thing about Sharon is trashed and every little thing about that phreak is praised, and it's to the point of searching for something, anything, to post. Now it's the matter of Nick saying that he simply did not want to have another child at a particular time. So what if a couple or one person in a couple decides to hold off on having a baby--the same thing happens in many thousands of marriages every day! ~)

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Re: Why did Nick not want to have a baby with Sharon

Postby habbyfan » Mon May 20, 2013 1:38 pm

Quote TxRangerFan:
Quote LucySnowe: It doesn't really matter any more what happened on what date. Summer is soon to be revealed as Jack's and, according to JM's interview, his motivation (and he's seen and played the scripts) in claiming the child was his when he wasn't positive it was is because having this baby "kept him sane" after the death of Cassie. He didn't mention Phyllis as a factor in the interview.

I find the argument that he didn't want to have a baby with Sharon a bit weak. Summer was a "miracle" pregnancy. Phyllis was supposed to be unable to conceive. If she did and if it was by Nick he could both validate the sordid affair by telling himself another beautiful child came of it and he could further hide from his grief for his beloved Cassie.


the whole story has not been told

you might want to tighten your seatbelt!! this is just the beginning of a 13 week arc!

hang on! it is going to get real bumpy!


WOW!!! this is so interesting.

Do you work for The Y&R now ... you always know what is coming as well as what is past.

I was watching the show at the time but I do not have dates at my disposal as you have. Just curious.

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Re: Why did Nick not want to have a baby with Sharon

Postby lovinthesoaps » Mon May 20, 2013 1:39 pm

Nick wasnt looking to have a child with Sharon because he was too busy having an affair with Phyllis. He loved Sharon but they had been through alot. What happened with Cassie destroyed them and they were not ready to bounce back. Its irrelevant though because when he found out she was pregnant with Faith while he was still with Phyllis he was elated to have another child with Sharon.

I dont think Nick is going to come out as bad as some think. I think people are going to remember the place Nick was in when Summer was conceived. I also think that both Phyllis and Sharon will forgive him. He is the father to their children and he loves them. I also think that Nick WILL be determined as the father but Jack will be angry that he left the results inconclusive for so long.

I really just cant wait to have this whole thing resolved once and for all, lol.

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Re: Why did Nick not want to have a baby with Sharon

Postby Squish » Mon May 20, 2013 1:46 pm

To answer the original question

Why did Nick not want to have a baby with Sharon?

When the original story aired Nick had just learned that Phyllis was pregnant and that he may be the father so it's my opinion that he didn't totally reject the idea of having a baby with Sharon so much as he wanted Phyllis and her baby. He was completely torn between two women one whom he shared a past and one he couldn't get out of his blood, I think he let the baby take the decision out of his hands he decided to claim the baby so he could have both women and a baby. This new story can't change what happened on screen originally and neither can all the "adjustments" along the way from the various other writing regimes. Phick was spontaneous, intense, and healing to both Nick and Phyllis...they were both in a place where they needed love and devotion. Call it a "shrink with benefits" if you want but isn't that what every relationship is? Don't we pair up with other people to have someone to share our pain, to brighten our future, and help us get through this thing we call life.

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Re: Why did Nick not want to have a baby with Sharon

Postby chancegirl » Mon May 20, 2013 1:49 pm

Quote Squish: To answer the original question

Why did Nick not want to have a baby with Sharon?

When the original story aired Nick had just learned that Phyllis was pregnant and that he may be the father so it's my opinion that he didn't totally reject the idea of having a baby with Sharon so much as he wanted Phyllis and her baby. He was completely torn between two women one whom he shared a past and one he couldn't get out of his blood, I think he let the baby take the decision out of his hands he decided to claim the baby so he could have both women and a baby. This new story can't change what happened on screen originally and neither can all the "adjustments" along the way from the various other writing regimes. Phick was spontaneous, intense, and healing to both Nick and Phyllis...they were both in a place where they needed love and devotion. Call it a "shrink with benefits" if you want but isn't that what every relationship is? Don't we pair up with other people to have someone to share our pain, to brighten our future, and help us get through this thing we call life.


Great post

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Re: Why did Nick not want to have a baby with Sharon

Postby Squish » Mon May 20, 2013 1:54 pm

Quote chancegirl:
Quote Squish: To answer the original question

Why did Nick not want to have a baby with Sharon?

When the original story aired Nick had just learned that Phyllis was pregnant and that he may be the father so it's my opinion that he didn't totally reject the idea of having a baby with Sharon so much as he wanted Phyllis and her baby. He was completely torn between two women one whom he shared a past and one he couldn't get out of his blood, I think he let the baby take the decision out of his hands he decided to claim the baby so he could have both women and a baby. This new story can't change what happened on screen originally and neither can all the "adjustments" along the way from the various other writing regimes. Phick was spontaneous, intense, and healing to both Nick and Phyllis...they were both in a place where they needed love and devotion. Call it a "shrink with benefits" if you want but isn't that what every relationship is? Don't we pair up with other people to have someone to share our pain, to brighten our future, and help us get through this thing we call life.


Great post


Thanks 3)

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Re: Why did Nick not want to have a baby with Sharon

Postby JRTA » Mon May 20, 2013 2:13 pm

It's how funny that two people can view the same thing and take such a different interpretation of it. (Although I'm not obsessive about the need to be right)

I remember Nick telling Sharon now was not a good time, not that he didn't want another baby with her. Their marriage was still rocky, he was still lusting for Phyllis, and some of those conversations DID happen after he knew that Phyllis was pregnant.

I also remember that Nick had NUMEROUS outs. If he wanted to be with Phyllis, he could have left Sharon, but he didn't. Even after she exposed his affair, he wanted to stay with her and rebuild their marriage and family. Even when Nick lied about the paternity test (lie by omission is still a lie), he wanted to stay with Sharon and raise the baby. It was only when his ego was bruised by seeing Sharon had run to Brad, that he finally gave up fighting for her.

He never had to fight for Phyllis, cause she threw herself at Nick at every chance. Including manipulating him telling him she'd raise the baby alone.

If Summer is Jack's, I will be happy. If Summer is Nick's, no skin off my back. Still doesn't change that his entire marriage to Phyllis, Nick could never get Sharon out of his system.

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Re: Why did Nick not want to have a baby with Sharon

Postby Grendel » Mon May 20, 2013 2:18 pm

Nick had a easy out. He could have said the baby is Jack's and then gone home to his wife and baby. That would have been the end of him and Phyllis. Then he and Sharon could have rebuilt their marriage and had a new baby. But he didn't. Nick could have bad 3 babies with Sharon if he wanted another child. I am not letting him off the hook. I also have serious doubts about his love for Phyllis' sister!

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Re: Why did Nick not want to have a baby with Sharon

Postby edaem1 » Mon May 20, 2013 2:18 pm

Quote JRTA: It's how funny that two people can view the same thing and take such a different interpretation of it. (Although I'm not obsessive about the need to be right)

I remember Nick telling Sharon now was not a good time, not that he didn't want another baby with her. Their marriage was still rocky, he was still lusting for Phyllis, and some of those conversations DID happen after he knew that Phyllis was pregnant.

I also remember that Nick had NUMEROUS outs. If he wanted to be with Phyllis, he could have left Sharon, but he didn't. Even after she exposed his affair, he wanted to stay with her and rebuild their marriage and family. Even when Nick lied about the paternity test (lie by omission is still a lie), he wanted to stay with Sharon and raise the baby. It was only when his ego was bruised by seeing Sharon had run to Brad, that he finally gave up fighting for her.

He never had to fight for Phyllis, cause she threw herself at Nick at every chance. Including manipulating him telling him she'd raise the baby alone.

If Summer is Jack's, I will be happy. If Summer is Nick's, no skin off my back. Still doesn't change that his entire marriage to Phyllis, Nick could never get Sharon out of his system.


JRTA, great post and exactly the way I remember it.

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Re: Why did Nick not want to have a baby with Sharon

Postby Grendel » Mon May 20, 2013 2:20 pm

I really believe this is going to be the end of Shick. Sharon would have to be pretty stupid to believe that Nick didn't chose Phyllis over her after she finds out about this. This is even worse that what Adam did.


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