Quote tulip40: They love each other, and that may be strange to you or you might not think so because your a Phyllis fan and think that Phick should be together. What ever your reason is, you could never understand it because you don't like Sharon and you think Phyllis is the way to go, JMHO! Sharon has a good heart and Nick knows that and their marriage wasn't pissed away as you say. They both struggle when Cassie die, not being able to comfort each other and the guilt was too much for Nick so he withdrew and found comfort in the sex and life Phyllis had to offer along with her being preggers for him. What was Sharon suppose to do at that time, beg? I think she did what was best for Nick as she always does, that shows selflessness, something Phyllis is not capable of feeling or doing. I know you'll bite my head off because I disagree with your entire assessment of Shick, but to each their own. Had Summer illness not happen, Shick would be together, but it did and Phick is still here, it's Phick that is more so riding a fence if you ask me, with Nick and Phyllis not being honest enough to let his marriage go or seriously seek help to save it.
Since you are a Sharon/Shick fan I really don't expect you to be able to look at it clearly. When Cassie died I wasn't a fan of anyone and I liked Sharon as a character I thought it was great how she outted Nick over his affair but I also thought she was as much to blame because she was indulging herself in her own relationship with Brad which is what made their break up so believable
I don't bite anyone's head off for stating their opinion. I don't agree with your assessment of Sharon, I don't see her as the selfless, giving person that most of her fans feel like she is but that is okay that is why they have a variety of characters because we aren't all gonna like or hate the same ones.
Excuse me, but I'm quite capable of stating unbias opinions. I can call it as I see it and that has nothing to do with me liking Sharon and disliking Phyllis. If you disagree with me, then that's fine, but don't tell me that I can't see it "clearly". You are a Phyllis fan, so I don't expect you to blame Phyllis for her part in the Shick break up of which in your second sentence you went right into blaming Sharon for what happen to her marriage.
They were both indulging in different people, so why don't you say that. She couldn't turn to Nick, he was in sex land with Phyllis, so that ain't Sharon fault. Nick came back years later and admit to Sharon that when she needed him he was not there and he knows what he gave up with her to be with Phyllis and he regretted that and he did say that also.
First of all let me apologize for the way that first sentence came across, what I was trying to say is that because you were a Sharon/Shick fan before Cassie's death it would play a part in how you viewed them. I tried to edit it but it wouldn't let me the site keeps freezing up and by the time it loaded I couldn't change the wording so it did't sound harsh.
That being said in both of your posts you accuse me of bias because I am a Phyllis fan so I am not sure why you are complaining.
And as to blaming Nick I did, but let's not paint that Sharon picture so rosey she was replacing Nick with Brad for 7 months before Phick ever happened Nick shutting the entire world out doesn't give her a pass to play house with Brad IMO
Apology accepted and yes, I did say that based on your other posts that I've seen on different threads concerning the two characters, so it's not only based on this thread alone. I know that you like Phyllis and dislike Sharon, and the same things you dislike about Sharon, are the same things Phyllis is guilty of 10x over. So, with that said, that is why I said that you are being unbiased(sorry, I wanted to edit the word "unbiased" to bias, I made a mistake when posting and couldn't edit it and thought I'd do it in this one)
, no harm intended though. Now, while I agree with you on Sharon and Brad, because I don't give her a pass with anything, even though she's my fav, I can't honestly say that I blame her for wanting support and compassion. I basically saw Phyllis did the same exact thing when Nick walked out on her and went to Sharon and Phyllis was excused and that was ok by her fans. They all have their wrongs and I can and will admit to that, but some are at more fault than others. Phick should have never happen, especially when Nick and Phyllis knew the situation that was at hand. Nick is to be blamed for that and so is Phyllis, no excuses for that.
Sharon and Nick are to blame for what happened in their marriage they are the ones who quit on it and turned to others. How come there is never any blame placed on Brad who was even more to blame than Nick, Phyllis, or Sharon being the only one who was intentionally trying to undermine the Shick marriage because of his feelings for Sharon.
Yes Phyllis is my favorite but that doesn't mean I can't and don't admit her faults something I don't think many fans consider when they look at the Phick affair is the emotional state Phyllis was also in during that time. She had just gotten Daniel back, gone through the trial, reunited with Jack only to have him hurt her all over again by deliberately blocking the wellness spa project she and Nikki were working on. Nick on the other hand had started coming out of his shell and reaching out to Sharon but by this time she was under Brad's spell. Nick found in Phyllis what Sharon found in Brad.
While I agree that the two of them should have turned to each other, we also know that in a situation such as a death of a child, it's difficult for both parents and it's not unheard of that they shut down or turn to others for compassion etc. That is exactly what happen with the Shick marriage when Cassie died. What I am saying however is that Phyllis knew that they were struggling with this and she pursed Nick. This was a game to her, while a family was being ruined. That responsibility is not only for Nick and Sharon but also rest upon Phyllis shoulders since she choose to barge in the middle of this marriage and set up shop. There is no way to take her out and say it's Shick fault alone. If that is how you want to argue this, then why say that Sharon is at fault for the Phick mess. It should be Phick that is the problem and it's their mess and has nothing to do with Sharon and how many times Sharon and Nick run to each other, same as what Phyllis and Nick did. However, I do notice the Phyllis fans are quick to blame Sharon for the Phick mess, but Phyllis is angel in the Shick break down. Double standards!
Phyllis does not need an emotional state to go after another woman husband, that has been proven on this show from the day she set foot in GC. That is who Phyllis is. She thinks it's a game and that was obvious that she liked it the way she went about doing it. I mean come on, to go to Sharon house, have dinner, while her and Nick have been around town over and over again and at the office behind Sharon back was typical Phyllis style. I'm not excusing her from her behavior, sorry. If you say that Sharon found in Brad what Nick found in Phyllis, then how is it that the out side influences are not to blame? You have to look at the WHOLE and not PART in order to come to the conclusion. Taking pieces out to only leads to partial truths and that's really what this comes down to. Each of them played their parts, and as such, each of them take their share of blames.