Democratic no bash part 2

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Re: Democratic no bash part 2

Postby snakeye » Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:51 pm

Thanks to all U posters, Trump is an evil billionaire who "owns" property everywhere and cheats people everywhere, I'm Smart, yeah right, you are a white supremist wanna be, do you really think your young wife would be with you if you had NO MONEY?????? You are a JOKE. She will get all your wealth after you are gone, she is milking you and you deserve it! Please girls, if you have any self-respect encourage your friends and family to vote AGAINST this bigot :!: :x :roll:

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Re: Democratic no bash part 2

Postby snakeye » Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:53 pm

mollycoddle wrote:So many WTH he is completely out of it moments last night but may favorites were when he admitted he stiffs his employees, says not paying any federal income tax makes him smart and that he has the temperament to be president, rambling incoherently. #OHMYSIDES :lol:

And the SNIFFING :lol: :lol:

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Re: Democratic no bash part 2

Postby snakeye » Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:54 pm

:lol:
shalaydra75 wrote:Hello BoldYoungLady and Happens,

Thanks Happens-your thorough recap have convinced to locate a youtube clip. I want to personally view that whupping.

He got a lashing but he didn't notice between his lying and sniffing :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Democratic no bash part 2

Postby cinderella2 » Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:30 am

snakeye wrote:
cinderella2 wrote:Our girl did great last night! :P :P :P :P

Trump has all these "So Call" great plans to fix America.

America is failing in the worse possible way and I will fix it......

We will have better relations with other nations....

I'm going to build a wall....

NATO is a mess.....

Our trade deals are great for everyone But America....

He sounds great to the Republican's that haven't seen anything get done by there party in years.

But he fails to say HOW he is going to do that and HOW long it will take and get ready for it....WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR IT!

and what about his TAXES!

He is hiding something REAL BIG and he doesn't want anyone to know.

And the thing he is hiding is right in front of us. GIRLS, GO VOTE and dump this white hate-monger He thinks he is above women, latinos, blacks, nature, you name it all that matters to him is his bank account & his walls he is trying to build a wall in Ireland to protect his golf course from rising seas caused by GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE LOL yet he denies CLIMATE CHANGE what a lying POS


Its all out there for ALL to see.

I just don't get why so many Republicans are voting for him. :roll:

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Re: Democratic no bash part 2

Postby mollycoddle » Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:29 am

cinderella2 wrote:
snakeye wrote:
cinderella2 wrote:Our girl did great last night! :P :P :P :P

Trump has all these "So Call" great plans to fix America.

America is failing in the worse possible way and I will fix it......

We will have better relations with other nations....

I'm going to build a wall....

NATO is a mess.....

Our trade deals are great for everyone But America....

He sounds great to the Republican's that haven't seen anything get done by there party in years.

But he fails to say HOW he is going to do that and HOW long it will take and get ready for it....WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR IT!

and what about his TAXES!

He is hiding something REAL BIG and he doesn't want anyone to know.

And the thing he is hiding is right in front of us. GIRLS, GO VOTE and dump this white hate-monger He thinks he is above women, latinos, blacks, nature, you name it all that matters to him is his bank account & his walls he is trying to build a wall in Ireland to protect his golf course from rising seas caused by GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE LOL yet he denies CLIMATE CHANGE what a lying POS


Its all out there for ALL to see.

I just don't get why so many Republicans are voting for him. :roll:



Party before country. And 25 years of fox news brainwashing.

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Re: Democratic no bash part 2

Postby mollycoddle » Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:01 am

Women who support this guy have a degree of self loathing that is pathological.
Women are pigs, dogs and should lose their jobs if they become pregnant or are deemed unattractive. Unquestionably a gleeful misogynist, open with his view of women as second class citizens. Any parent of a daughter who votes for this man to be our president ought to be ashamed.


http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-na-pol-trump-women/
Employees at Trump's California golf course say he wanted to fire women who weren't pretty enough


Donald Trump wanted only the pretty ones, his employees said.

After the Trump National Golf Club in Rancho Palos Verdes opened for play in 2005, its world-famous owner didn’t stop by more than a few times a year to visit the course hugging the coast of the Pacific.


When Trump did visit, the club’s managers went on alert. They scheduled the young, thin, pretty women on staff to work the clubhouse restaurant —because when Trump saw less-attractive women working at his club, according to court records, he wanted them fired.

"I had witnessed Donald Trump tell managers many times while he was visiting the club that restaurant hostesses were 'not pretty enough' and that they should be fired and replaced with more attractive women,” Hayley Strozier, who was director of catering at the club until 2008, said in a sworn declaration.
Initially, Trump gave this command “almost every time” he visited, Strozier said. Managers eventually changed employee schedules “so that the most attractive women were scheduled to work when Mr. Trump was scheduled to be at the club," she said.


A similar story is told by former Trump employees in court documents filed in 2012 in a broad labor relations lawsuit brought against one of Trump’s development companies in Los Angeles County Superior Court.

The employees’ declarations in support of the lawsuit, which have not been reported in detail until now, show the extent to which they believed Trump, now the Republican presidential nominee, pressured subordinates at one of his businesses to create and enforce a culture of beauty, where female employees’ appearances were prized over their skills.

A Trump Organization attorney, in a statement to The Times, called the allegations “meritless.”

In a 2009 court filing, the company said that any “allegedly wrongful or discriminatory acts” by its employees, if any occurred, would be in violation of company policy and were not authorized.

Employees said in their declarations that the apparent preference for attractive women came from the top.

“Donald Trump always wanted good looking women working at the club,” said Sue Kwiatkowski, a restaurant manager at the club until 2009, in a declaration. "I know this because one time he took me aside and said, ‘I want you to get some good looking hostesses here. People like to see good looking people when they come in.’ ”

As a result, Kwiatkowski said, "I and the other managers always tried to have our most attractive hostesses working when Mr. Trump was in town and going to be on the premises."


Trump has struggled to win the support of female voters as he seeks the nation’s highest office. In the past, he has insulted women’s appearances, sometimes calling them “pigs” or “dogs.”

Trump’s record with women got renewed attention after this week’s presidential debate, when Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton told the story of a former beauty pageant winner who said Trump called her “Miss Piggy” when she gained weight.

Trump has previously defended himself by saying he has “great respect for women” and “will do far more for women” than Clinton. He has also said that “all are impressed with how nicely I have treated women.”

As part of the lawsuit over a lack of meal and rest breaks at Trump’s golf club about 30 miles south of downtown Los Angeles — his largest real estate holding in Southern California — several employees said managers staffed Trump’s clubhouse restaurant with attractive young women rather than more experienced employees in order to please Trump.


All are impressed with how nicely I have treated women.

— Donald Trump

The bulk of the lawsuit was settled in 2013, when golf course management, without admitting any wrongdoing, agreed to pay $475,000 to employees who had complained about break policies. An employee’s claim that she was fired after complaining about the company’s treatment of women was settled separately; its terms remain confidential.

A public relations firm working for the Trump campaign referred questions about the lawsuit to one of the attorneys who represented the Trump National Golf Club in the case.

“We do not engage in discrimination of any kind and have always complied with all wage laws, including by providing our employees with meal and rest breaks,” said the attorney, Jill Martin, assistant general counsel for the Trump Organization.

The former employees’ statements primarily describe the club’s work culture from the mid- to late 2000s. The Times spoke at length to one of the ex-employees, who described in detail the allegations about workplace culture. The person declined to be quoted by name, citing a fear of being sued.

In their sworn declarations, some employees described how Trump, during his stays in Southern California, made inappropriate and patronizing statements to the women working for him.

On one visit, Trump saw “a young, attractive hostess working named Nicole ... and directed that she be brought to a place where he was meeting with a group of men,” former Trump restaurant manager Charles West said in his declaration.

“After this woman had been presented to him, Mr. Trump said to his guests something like, 'See, you don't have to go to Hollywood to find beautiful women,'” West said. “He also turned to Nicole and asked her, ‘Do you like Jewish men?’"

One of the few older people on the wait staff who served Trump, Maral Bolsajian, said she was “uncomfortable” when he visited, calling his behavior toward her “inappropriate.”

"Although I am a grown woman in my forties, Mr. Trump regularly greeted me with expressions like 'how's my favorite girl?'" Bolsajian said in a declaration. "Later, after he learned (by asking me) that I was married — and happily so — he regularly asked, 'are you still happily married?' whenever he saw me."

Trump also asked her to pose for photos with him, said Bolsajian, who added that she felt she “had little recourse given that Donald Trump is not only the head of the company but also one of the most powerful, well-known people in the United States.”

Bolsajian said, “In short, I consistently found Mr. Trump to be overly familiar and unprofessional.”

The lawsuit focused on the course’s high-pressure work culture. Employees said they were not allowed to take the breaks required under California law.

The statements about Trump’s preference for young, attractive employees were filed in support of a separate claim for retaliation, lodged after former restaurant host Lucy Messerschmidt, then 45, contended that she had been fired for complaining about age discrimination.

Jeffrey W. Cowan, a Santa Monica attorney who represented the employees in the lawsuit, said the case targeted Trump’s development company, VH Property Corp., but “the evidence certainly suggested” that the club’s work culture flowed from Trump.

Although Trump was mostly absent from the course he purchased in 2002, workers said his company maintained a rigorous work environment that often left workers exhausted.

Employees said managers urged them to hurry through brief meal breaks, sometimes even expressing impatience with bathroom breaks.

"My manager insisted that because this was Trump's golf course, it had to be top-notch," one employee said in a declaration. "He was concerned that if Trump observed employees eating or resting, Trump would not be pleased."


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Another employee said his manager “seemed obsessed with the fact that this was Donald Trump's golf course,” believing that “Mr. Trump wouldn't like it if he saw employees sitting around because he would think the golf course was inefficient and overstaffed." A valet described a stretch where “someone got fired every week.”

One busboy said in a declaration that he took up smoking so that he would have an excuse for going outside for a break.

In response, Trump’s company filed declarations from more than a dozen other employees who said they regularly were offered lunch breaks of at least 30 minutes for every five-hour shift, and were counseled by managers if they didn’t take them.

Lili Amini, general manager, said in a declaration that the company implemented a firm policy about such breaks in 2009.

Employees said managers started instituting breaks after the class-action lawsuit was filed.

Female employees said they faced additional pressures.

Strozier, the former catering director, said Vincent Stellio — a former Trump bodyguard who had risen to become a Trump Organization vice president — approached her in 2003 about an employee that Strozier thought was talented.

Stellio wanted the employee fired because she was overweight, Strozier said in her legal filing.

"Mr. Stellio told me to do this because 'Mr. Trump doesn't like fat people' and that he would not like seeing [the employee] when he was on the premises,” wrote Strozier, who said she refused the request. (Stellio died in 2010.)

A year later, Mike van der Goes — a golf pro who had been promoted to be Trump National’s general manager — made a similar request to fire the same overweight employee, Strozier said.

“Mr. van der Goes told me that he wanted me to do this because of [the employee's] appearance and the fact that Mr. Trump didn't like people that looked like her,” Strozier wrote.

When Strozier protested, Van der Goes returned a week later “and announced he had a plan of hiding [the employee] whenever Mr. Trump was on the premises,” Strozier wrote.

West, who worked as a restaurant manager at the club until 2008, wrote that Van der Goes ordered him “to hire young, attractive women to be hostesses.” West also said Van der Goes insisted that he “would need to meet all such job applicants first to determine if they were sufficiently pretty."

Van der Goes, who worked at the club until 2008, did not respond to requests for comment, though he defended Trump in a February interview with the Santa Clarita Gazette.

“He’s not a racist. He’s not a bigot,” said Van der Goes, who called Trump “an astute businessman and a marketing genius.”

Employees said several women quit or were fired because they were perceived as unattractive.

A server, John Marlo, recalled seeing a co-worker crying in 2007. The woman had wanted to be promoted to server.


The hostesses that were the youngest and the prettiest always got the best shifts.

— Gail Doner

"She told me that she was upset because a manager had told her that she couldn’t be a server because of she had acne on her face,” Marlo said in a declaration. “According to her, she was qualified for the job and wanted it, but couldn't get it solely because of her acne."

The woman quit soon after, Marlo wrote.

Messerschmidt, the employee who said she was fired in retaliation for complaining about age discrimination, said in 2008 that one of her managers, Brian Wolbers, changed her schedule to give her time off during one of Trump’s visits because Trump "likes to see fresh faces" and "young girls."

Wolbers did not respond to a request for comment.

Gail Doner, who worked as a food server from 2007 to 2011, wrote that she was 60 and had often been frustrated by the inefficiency of the restaurant’s young, inexperienced hostesses, who “usually were not competent but were kept anyway.”

“The hostesses that were the youngest and the prettiest always got the best shifts,” Doner wrote.

Meanwhile, Doner — who had 20 years of experience working for wine vendors, and was at “the top of [her] game” while working for Trump National — said managers slowly cut back her shifts until they stopped scheduling her at all, “effectively firing [her].”

“It did not appear to me that this reduction in shifts was happening to any of the younger, more attractive female food servers," Doner said. She added: “I chose not to fight to get my job back because by that point I was fed up with the toxic environment and the way that I was treated.”

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Re: Democratic no bash part 2

Postby happens » Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:19 pm

YoungBoldLady50 wrote:
happens wrote:Seems evident by the local news coverage that we do not want Donald Trump here in Flint for his photo op. Celebrities such as Cher, although not as rich as Trump, sent us semis full of water. Did Trump send water? I think if he did it would have been all over the news so I'm guessing he didn't. We would prefer he present us with his tax returns and medical report and stay away from our city.

Hillary has been here several times even sitting down with our mayor to develop an action plan accompanied by various agencies which began being implemented almost immediately. Albeit things are moving much too slowly thanks to our corrupt governor and the slugs in Congress.

I guess they'll have to bus folks in from Grand Rapids to welcome Trump.



Hello Happens, :) Hope all is well. Thanks so much for your update of what's going on in Flint. I'm pleased to hear that he isn't wanted. This is a shameless attempt to appear that he is concerned but rather it's just a blatant attempt to grab votes. So glad that the good people of Flint, Michigan aren't buying it. He doesn't give a rat's....about the drinking water or the people in Flint. In January he wouldn't comment on it....yet 54 days before the election it's a now a issue. It is documented that Hillary Clinton has visited Flint, Michigan. HillaryClinton has been to Flint numerous times, because she DOES care. Not ala Trump just to be a photo op. SMH.....He is a life long New Yorker and he can't win his state, that should speak volumes to the rest of the nation. Tomorrow this guy is going on the Dr Oz show to talk about his health.....just release the report, and release his taxes while he's at it. Then have his wife have the promised press conference about her immigration. While he's at apologize for the vile remarks he made a 911 amongst many other disgusting remarks.....Colin Powell is correct Trump is an international pariah and a National Discrace. No to Putin loving Comrade Trump. :evil: Take care, and please keep us updated from a local perspective. Thanks, have a great day. 8-) .


Hi YBL50, you got that right. I don't know if you saw the Flint follow up but Trump chose this church because it was Wednesday and every Wednesday this Church congregation and the pastor volunteer their time serving the community by handing out water. (Other churches do it other days) They were told Trump wanted to thank them for their service. However instead of thanking them he tried giving a speech insulting Hillary. The pastor was having none of that so after about 5 min Trump left. I noticed there were cases of water stacked behind the podium. I doubt Trump stacked that himself I'm guessing the members of the congregation carried the cases on their own time and stacked it there for him for his photo op. What an unwelcome disruption to the community he was. They were probably there late into the night making up for all the lost time, not to mention all the folks lined up to get their water that couldn't get anywhere near the church because of Trump's visit. The next day Trump had the nerve to go on Fox News and insult the pastor saying she was a nervous mess. Imagine that, this selfless, charitable giving woman (pastor) being insulted instead of being heralded by Trump!!!

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Re: Democratic no bash part 2

Postby cinderella2 » Fri Sep 30, 2016 8:12 am

snakeye wrote:
cinderella2 wrote:Our girl did great last night! :P :P :P :P

Trump has all these "So Call" great plans to fix America.

America is failing in the worse possible way and I will fix it......

We will have better relations with other nations....

I'm going to build a wall....

NATO is a mess.....

Our trade deals are great for everyone But America....

He sounds great to the Republican's that haven't seen anything get done by there party in years.

But he fails to say HOW he is going to do that and HOW long it will take and get ready for it....WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR IT!

and what about his TAXES!

He is hiding something REAL BIG and he doesn't want anyone to know.

And the thing he is hiding is right in front of us. GIRLS, GO VOTE and dump this white hate-monger He thinks he is above women, latinos, blacks, nature, you name it all that matters to him is his bank account & his walls he is trying to build a wall in Ireland to protect his golf course from rising seas caused by GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE LOL yet he denies CLIMATE CHANGE what a lying POS


Trump has been like this for years.

I remember in the 80s when he was in the papers all the time when he was cheating on his first wife with Marla Maples. :roll:

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Re: Democratic no bash part 2

Postby clicquot1 » Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:02 am

Yes, Donald trump seems to believe that ALL a woman has to offer is her looks & when those start to fade or she gains weight than she is no longer good to him or good for business!



So sad but this is the entitled view of a billionaire who has been catered to all his life!

This type of blatant discrimination should not be tolerated in a person who runs for the office of presiden of the United States & doesn't even have a basic understanding of human rights, the Constitution, FREEDOM of Reliogion & what that ACTUALLY MEANS & how that helped shape this country, and basic civility!

Yes, Hillary Clinton was very good during the debate & she was the one who appeared fresh & with lots of stamina!


I love it that he keeps digging himself into a hole with all the bashing of women.......slowly women are actually "seeing" & hearing what he actually thinks ofus..............& it ain't pretty!


And look at DT, Newt Gingrich, & Rudy Gilliani all throwing stones at Bill Clinton & his women.......when these men have 9 marriages between the three of them!

They are trying to blame Hillary for past Bill's behavior when he was running 4 president & when he was president!

This is NOT going to win them the female vote...................& it will actually make him lose more female voters! ;)


Looking forward to the VP debate!


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