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Re: Trump banning transgenders

Postby mollycoddle » Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:12 am

YoungBoldLady50 wrote:I posted something on this topic in the Democratic Thread. :geek: But to add the Berating Cowardly Bully in Chief possibly may have banned Transgenders serving in the military as Political pawns to appease a segment of his bigoted base to get the votes/funding to build his one billion dolloar stupid wall that Mexico will pay for. :roll: The military by the way pays more for Viagra ®/Cialis®, than the medical needs of Transgender military personnel. :o Trump is despicable. :evil:



Here is the WAPO article about that neat little factoid.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/07/26/the-military-spends-five-times-as-much-on-viagra-as-it-would-on-transgender-troops-medical-care/?utm_term=.b3f41b4e0371

So, 84 million a year for guys who can't stay hard.
Almost as much as Trump spends on golf.

But medical care for transgendered people at 8.4 million a year is too spendy. Hm. :lol:

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Re: Trump banning transgenders

Postby mollycoddle » Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:19 am

GeauxTigers wrote:
mollycoddle wrote:
GeauxTigers wrote:Gee, so some think that all Presidents except for President Obama have been "bigots" because they don't want we taxpayers to fund an Addadictomy or a Takadicfromy for those who join the military.

The military is there to protect our freedom; wars are to kill people and break things, not for social experimentation. If one wants to serve in the United States Military, the greatest on earth, serve as the gender you were born with; then do your own think when you are discharged.



Who said that?

These people who are willing to stand up and serve are far better than me.
And worlds better than Trump.

Before during and after transition.


Obozo said that. He is the only President who has issued an executive order saying that transgenders are welcome in the military. If you have a directive from another President in our history, quote or link it.

Flat footed people may be willing to stand up and serve but they aren't allowed in the military either.
And there are other qualifications:
having a felony conviction is out of the question, but so are some tattoos, gauged earlobes, and taking hyperactivity medication. The Pentagon says 71 percent of America’s 34 million 17-24 year old population would fail to qualify for enlistment.

The U.S. Army’s major enlistment requirements include:
Ages between 17 and 34 years old
Must be U.S. citizen or legal foreign national
Must have high school diploma or equivalent
Minimum 33 score on Armed Forces Qualification Test
No tattoos on fingers, neck or face
No ear gauges
No ADHD medication win the past 12 months
No felony convictions
No persistent illegal drug use
No insulin-dependent diabetes
Meet height & weight requirements
The biggest single reason for failing to meet the requirements is obesity. Maj, Gen. Allen Batschelet, commander of the U.S. Army Recruiting Command, says obesity is becoming a national security issue.

So you see, social experimentation or diet doesn't just rubber stamp one into the military.


Obama said all other presidents were bigots? :lol: Thats what I was asking.


Let us not pretend this is about money or any physical issue.

Ear gauges big NO but erectile dysfunction to the tune of 84 MILLION dollars annually to treat that medical condition that is A-OK?

This is about the bigotry of a segment of our society who are largely content to sit on their asses stateside and wave flags.

IOW, Trumps base.

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Re: Trump banning transgenders

Postby loveridge » Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:29 am

mollycoddle wrote:
loveridge wrote:He should be happy that they would love to serve their country not to many people are signing up to join the military since he has been in office my cousin was going to serve but changed his mind thank the lord he did



My nephew is a marine and he is getting out as soon as his time is up and that is all down to Trump and the mess he is making of this country and our place in the world.

We can't wait until he comes home.
I dont blame your nephew he needs to get out as soon as his time is up

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Re: Trump banning transgenders

Postby loveridge » Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:34 am

mollycoddle wrote:
YoungBoldLady50 wrote:I posted something on this topic in the Democratic Thread. :geek: But to add the Berating Cowardly Bully in Chief possibly may have banned Transgenders serving in the military as Political pawns to appease a segment of his bigoted base to get the votes/funding to build his one billion dolloar stupid wall that Mexico will pay for. :roll: The military by the way pays more for Viagra ®/Cialis®, than the medical needs of Transgender military personnel. :o Trump is despicable. :evil:



Here is the WAPO article about that neat little factoid.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/07/26/the-military-spends-five-times-as-much-on-viagra-as-it-would-on-transgender-troops-medical-care/?utm_term=.b3f41b4e0371

So, 84 million a year for guys who can't stay hard.
Almost as much as Trump spends on golf.

But medical care for transgendered people at 8.4 million a year is too spendy. Hm. :lol:
Exactly my question mollycoddle why do people always like to throw up obama obama has went on with his life and enjoying it I might add after all of the hell he has caught trump is president now not obama so bringing up obama is not going to change a darn thing what these people need to do is focus on trump not obama obama is gone

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Re: Trump banning transgenders

Postby mollycoddle » Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:35 am

loveridge wrote:
mollycoddle wrote:
loveridge wrote:He should be happy that they would love to serve their country not to many people are signing up to join the military since he has been in office my cousin was going to serve but changed his mind thank the lord he did



My nephew is a marine and he is getting out as soon as his time is up and that is all down to Trump and the mess he is making of this country and our place in the world.

We can't wait until he comes home.
I dont blame your nephew he needs to get out as soon as his time is up


Next December. We are all counting down.

Its a shame because he loves it, but he tells us he isn't alone in getting out asap for the same reason.

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Re: Trump banning transgenders

Postby mollycoddle » Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:37 am

loveridge wrote:
mollycoddle wrote:
YoungBoldLady50 wrote:I posted something on this topic in the Democratic Thread. :geek: But to add the Berating Cowardly Bully in Chief possibly may have banned Transgenders serving in the military as Political pawns to appease a segment of his bigoted base to get the votes/funding to build his one billion dolloar stupid wall that Mexico will pay for. :roll: The military by the way pays more for Viagra ®/Cialis®, than the medical needs of Transgender military personnel. :o Trump is despicable. :evil:



Here is the WAPO article about that neat little factoid.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/07/26/the-military-spends-five-times-as-much-on-viagra-as-it-would-on-transgender-troops-medical-care/?utm_term=.b3f41b4e0371

So, 84 million a year for guys who can't stay hard.
Almost as much as Trump spends on golf.

But medical care for transgendered people at 8.4 million a year is too spendy. Hm. :lol:
Exactly my question mollycoddle why do people always like to throw up obama obama has went on with his life and enjoying it I might add after all of the hell he has caught trump is president now not obama so bringing up obama is not going to change a darn thing what these people need to do is focus on trump not obama obama is gone



Deflect to Hillary and Obama because Trump is a never ending dumpster fire.

He has no beliefs, no policies and no plans.
He wants and is driven by the desire for two things.

Complete adoration and devotion and to stay out of jail.
Those are the reasons he does everything he does.

The good of the country or even the people who blindly support him doesn't matter at all.

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Re: Trump banning transgenders

Postby GeauxTigers » Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:52 am

mollycoddle wrote:
GeauxTigers wrote:
GeauxTigers wrote:Gee, so some think that all Presidents except for President Obama have been "bigots" because they don't want we taxpayers to fund an Addadictomy or a Takadicfromy for those who join the military.

The military is there to protect our freedom; wars are to kill people and break things, not for social experimentation. If one wants to serve in the United States Military, the greatest on earth, serve as the gender you were born with; then do your own think when you are discharged.





Obozo said that. He is the only President who has issued an executive order saying that transgenders are welcome in the military. If you have a directive from another President in our history, quote or link it.

Flat footed people may be willing to stand up and serve but they aren't allowed in the military either.
And there are other qualifications:
having a felony conviction is out of the question, but so are some tattoos, gauged earlobes, and taking hyperactivity medication. The Pentagon says 71 percent of America’s 34 million 17-24 year old population would fail to qualify for enlistment.

The U.S. Army’s major enlistment requirements include:
Ages between 17 and 34 years old
Must be U.S. citizen or legal foreign national
Must have high school diploma or equivalent
Minimum 33 score on Armed Forces Qualification Test
No tattoos on fingers, neck or face
No ear gauges
No ADHD medication win the past 12 months
No felony convictions
No persistent illegal drug use
No insulin-dependent diabetes
Meet height & weight requirements
The biggest single reason for failing to meet the requirements is obesity. Maj, Gen. Allen Batschelet, commander of the U.S. Army Recruiting Command, says obesity is becoming a national security issue.

So you see, social experimentation or diet doesn't just rubber stamp one into the military.


Obama said all other presidents were bigots? :lol: Thats what I was asking.


Let us not pretend this is about money or any physical issue.

Ear gauges big NO but erectile dysfunction to the tune of 84 MILLION dollars annually to treat that medical condition that is A-OK?

This is about the bigotry of a segment of our society who are largely content to sit on their asses stateside and wave flags.

IOW, Trumps base.


Obama didn't say that, but those who talk about Trump's base being bigoted must remember that We the People elected both Obama and Trump, and to label either "base" as bigoted is unpatriotic. You may have sour grapes that your dishonest or socialist candidate lost, but they did.

And FYI, Trump's base work and provide more of the taxpayer revenue to government than many of Obama's base who are taking rather than giving.

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Re: Trump banning transgenders

Postby mollycoddle » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:15 am

GeauxTigers wrote:
Obama didn't say that, but those who talk about Trump's base being bigoted must remember that We the People elected both Obama and Trump, and to label either "base" as bigoted is unpatriotic. You may have sour grapes that your dishonest or socialist candidate lost, but they did.

And FYI, Trump's base work and provide more of the taxpayer revenue to government than many of Obama's base who are taking rather than giving.


The dem candidate most closely resembling a socialist never made it out of the primary.

I live in Kentucky, redder than blood and one of the biggest welfare states in the country.
The welfare peeps here? Trump voters, most of them white as me. :)
Let us not pretend that it isn't the cities that pay the way of the red states.
Thats where the numbers are, that is where the money is.
Louisville and Lexington here bring the revenue. Both blue.
Without them this state would be up a creek literally.
Its the same all over the country.

Trumps base is comprised of bigots, I will happily say it, nothing unpatriotic about free speech in this country. Yet.

If you vote for someone who supports bigoted policies, you endorse those ideals, its as simple as that.

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Re: Trump banning transgenders

Postby GeauxTigers » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:52 am

mollycoddle wrote:
GeauxTigers wrote:
Obama didn't say that, but those who talk about Trump's base being bigoted must remember that We the People elected both Obama and Trump, and to label either "base" as bigoted is unpatriotic. You may have sour grapes that your dishonest or socialist candidate lost, but they did.

And FYI, Trump's base work and provide more of the taxpayer revenue to government than many of Obama's base who are taking rather than giving.


The dem candidate most closely resembling a socialist never made it out of the primary.

I live in Kentucky, redder than blood and one of the biggest welfare states in the country.
The welfare peeps here? Trump voters, most of them white as me. :)
Let us not pretend that it isn't the cities that pay the way of the red states.
Thats where the numbers are, that is where the money is.
Louisville and Lexington here bring the revenue. Both blue.
Without them this state would be up a creek literally.
Its the same all over the country.

Trumps base is comprised of bigots, I will happily say it, nothing unpatriotic about free speech in this country. Yet.

If you vote for someone who supports bigoted policies, you endorse those ideals, its as simple as that.


You and I are both entitled to our free speech opinion. Debbie Blabbermouth Schultz used hers to get herself ousted from the DNC when her "chosen" primary candidate, Hillary Clinton, was pre-selected and pre-determined to get the nomination over Bernie Sanders. Pathetic and sad for the Democrats.
Now shifty Debbie and her assistant are in all kinds of well deserved hot water for her shenanigans. She and disgraced Donna Brazile along with Hillary are three of the most dishonest politicians and commentators and elected Congressmen in the history of our great country.

And when one characterizes a group as being "bigots", that opinion doesn't make it true, as there are Democrat, Republican and Independent bigots. The KKK was made up of Democrats, founded in Tennessee and Kentucky.

You just called the base voters who put Trump over the top in states he flipped from Obama -- including Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania ---bigots. I'm sure those union voters who disagreed with your voting choice would disagree with you. And welfare goes to people in all 50 states, of all colors. On taxes, We the People pay the taxes in all the cities and in all the rural areas. Louisville and Lexington don't determine red or blue, the whole state does....Civics 101.

Get rid of McConnell, he is useless.

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Re: Trump banning transgenders

Postby mollycoddle » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:58 am

GeauxTigers wrote:
mollycoddle wrote:
GeauxTigers wrote:
Obama didn't say that, but those who talk about Trump's base being bigoted must remember that We the People elected both Obama and Trump, and to label either "base" as bigoted is unpatriotic. You may have sour grapes that your dishonest or socialist candidate lost, but they did.

And FYI, Trump's base work and provide more of the taxpayer revenue to government than many of Obama's base who are taking rather than giving.


The dem candidate most closely resembling a socialist never made it out of the primary.

I live in Kentucky, redder than blood and one of the biggest welfare states in the country.
The welfare peeps here? Trump voters, most of them white as me. :)
Let us not pretend that it isn't the cities that pay the way of the red states.
Thats where the numbers are, that is where the money is.
Louisville and Lexington here bring the revenue. Both blue.
Without them this state would be up a creek literally.
Its the same all over the country.

Trumps base is comprised of bigots, I will happily say it, nothing unpatriotic about free speech in this country. Yet.

If you vote for someone who supports bigoted policies, you endorse those ideals, its as simple as that.


You and I are both entitled to our free speech opinion. Debbie Blabbermouth Schultz used hers to get herself ousted from the DNC when her "chosen" primary candidate, Hillary Clinton, was pre-selected and pre-determined to get the nomination over Bernie Sanders. Pathetic and sad for the Democrats.
Now shifty Debbie and her assistant are in all kinds of well deserved hot water for her shenanigans. She and disgraced Donna Brazile along with Hillary are three of the most dishonest politicians and commentators and elected Congressmen in the history of our great country.

And when one characterizes a group as being "bigots", that opinion doesn't make it true, as there are Democrat, Republican and Independent bigots. The KKK was made up of Democrats, founded in Tennessee and Kentucky.

You just called the base voters who put Trump over the top in states he flipped from Obama -- including Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania ---bigots. I'm sure those union voters who disagreed with your voting choice would disagree with you. And welfare goes to people in all 50 states, of all colors. On taxes, We the People pay the taxes in all the cities and in all the rural areas. Louisville and Lexington don't determine red or blue, the whole state does....Civics 101.

Get rid of McConnell, he is useless.


Well aware of civics, the discussion was economic, you said Trumps base provide more taxpayer revenue. Trumps base is not only a minority, but its primarily rural. Neither of these support their providing more revenue to the federal government. The opposite.


As for the rest, I don't have the time for whataboutism, sorry.


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