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    A BLT At Kelly’s.

    Monday, June 11 2012
    Sam confronts Jason, Spinelli has a lead on Heather and Ewen is released from the hospital.

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    Posted by enad19 at Tuesday, June 12 2012 05:56 AM

    TipseyTess, you said in your post that:
    "Why did you beat John up. That is his job Sam..gee you knew very well what Jason does."

    Actually, no, Sam did not know that Jason's job was to go around beating up a close friend that was showing her the support, generosity and compassion that her husband refused to provide. Last time Sam checked she told Jason that John was a friend, a friend who she could talk to about her situation and one who understood and sympathized with what she was going through. Sam did not and should never expect that her newly diagnosed Neanderthal blockhead husband would have beaten up her friend. So yes, Sam knows what Jason does for a living and accepts what he does, but beating up her friend is NOT it.
    You also said that “Sam you are at fault to as no one told you to go outside”.
    Since blame is being assigned, lets also say that who is to blame for Sam going outside in the first place. Sam was waiting for John to come back and get her and the baby, but he was accosted by Jason’s goons, leading you to say that Sam shouldn’t have left. Jason has a huge part in this baby switch debacle as well, as far as Sam is concerned, her baby is dead and Jason did, whether we want to admit it or not, played an active role in it. Why should he be absolved? Because he is guilty? I’m pretty sure he will make it right, once he starts being the Jason we know and love, but right now, he shares the blame and he should feel guilty.

    Posted by 4myJylli at Tuesday, June 12 2012 06:13 AM

    Hi Enad, I guess I’m having such a hard time with this s/l for many reasons other than it’s been done to death (baby switching) and I find nothing entertaining about a mother thinking her baby is dead while another is raising one that isn’t hers, but dead. What’s so entertaining about that, especially when we’ve have to endure it how many times. I find that while GH is on, I’m busying myself doing other things and there was a time when Soaps and their storytelling couldn’t tear me away or I would rush home to see what happened next. But with the way they are written today, I don’t even care to watch and that’s a testament to how horrible and non-creative TIIC are. When are they going to get it and go back to love in the afternoon, adventures, scheming, comedy, etc. As it is, I find GH to be rather depressing, dull and boring.

    As far as Jason is concerned, him coming to the realization that he could have loved Sam’s baby left me feeling nothing. That he could hold a dead baby and come to that realization was a WTH moment for me along with having to be talked into it (by Carly), was another WTH moment as well. A man should be able to look at his wife and know that any offspring of hers he would willingly love. That he allowed his hatred for Franco to overshadow his love for his wife and his ability to love a child that is part of her and proven to me that when it comes to the words in our marriage wows “for better or for worse” he’s a no-show when the going gets worst. He deserves no forgiveness from Sam anytime soon. He certainly don’t have it from me.

    Posted by enad19 at Tuesday, June 12 2012 06:29 AM

    Well said 4myjylli: What is bewildering to me is that Jason has being written to completely opposite to his true nature that I just cannot wrap my head around the fact that Steve Burton is actually playing the character of Jason Morgan, when I look at Jason these days, I see him as a newly introduced character on the show, not the Jason who was above anyone else, a compassionate and generous man, especially towards Sam. Why I feel this way is that a lot of the people who hate Sam were upset that Jason forgave her for watching Maureen kidnap Jake and did nothing. If Jason could get past that, and be able to love and trust Sam again, I don’t understand this Jason now. The cold unsympathetic, selfish, bitter man who told anyone who would listen, Liz, Carly, Sonny about how Sam LEFT, as if he blamed her, the one who didn’t touch, hug or hold Sam, the one who can only think about his box of pain and disregards his wife’s feelings . When I look at Jason now, I just don’t see the Jason of old, I see him as a Steve Burton, playing a new character who just happens to look like Jason.

    Another thing which I just can’t seem to figure out is how the writers, whatever their names are actually think that is juicy creative storylines, when long time GH viewers are being treated to Lila redux, apart from a few words here and there, TIIC need not even dig too deep to find new material. They can just pick up lines from various soaps and pass it on to Sam and Jason and say, remember in 2002 or whatever year that was, well that whole baby dying storyline is your motivation. Incredibly disappointing. If I was that writer, I would cringe knowing that I’m actually writing such dribble that been done to death and calling it work.

    Posted by 4myJylli at Tuesday, June 12 2012 06:41 AM

    I agree Enad. It’s like the writers are purposely trying to make those of us that love JaSam to dislike them as a couple and not root for them. And if that’s the case, in a way they’re succeeding. Because the Jason that is now on the screen, I don’t recognize and would not wish him on any woman right now. That whole scene with Sam yesterday left me feeling nothing for him. There wasn’t one moment where I felt that Sam should openly welcome his apology because to me he was not convincing at all and if he wasn’t able to convince me, I’m glad that Sam wasn’t so easily convinced either.

    I agree with those who found the Liz/Ewen kiss on the “lackluster side”. I guess I'm just not feeling the Liz/Ewen pairing. To me he has not personality. I think they may have delayed a bit too long developing whatever is suppose to happen between these two because I'm not getting them. Their scenes along with the ridiculousness that is NuKristina were ff’d-worthy for me. Scrimmage like your new name for NuKristina “NUKE”. I’m down with that.

    I could have also done without the soliloquy of how Heather was able to obtain and switch Sam’s DNA results. After watching it, I found that we could have done without it since it was an embarrassment for any hospital that would leave a laboratory unlocked and would be so lacked with their security that someone like Heather can change test results in what is supposed to be a highly secured and password protected system. And then to have a technician openly leaving a message to a doctor about lab results in this day of email and texting was also an insult to the technological advances we’ve achieved.

    Posted by Scrimmage at Tuesday, June 12 2012 07:00 AM

    Okay, Sam’s reaction to Jason having McBattered um… battered, is perfectly understandable from HER perspective, but let’s not get carried away here. McBain is NOT “a close friend” of Sam’s. He’s a total stranger with an obviously questionable agenda. He’s a cop with an admitted personal grudge against Sonny, Jason’s boss, who has a stated goal of bringing him down, and he said he plans to use Jason to do it. THAT’S why Jason sent him the message to get out of town – not because he was sniffing around Sam.

    Sam knew damn well it would further complicate her relationship with her husband if she continued to encourage an inappropriate (considering Jason’s line of work) friendship with a cop by involving him in their personal life. If she hadn’t, and stayed with her husband or with her mother like a normal person would, then she would not have put herself in the position of only having McBat to rely on when she needed help. His encounter with Jason’s “business associates” would not have had any effect on her at all if she hadn’t continually turned to him, and ONLY him, instead of a friend like Spinelli or her family.

    Yes, Jason definitely let Sam down, but she purposely and repeatedly looked to the wrong person for support, which didn’t help matters. Just because Sam is the primary victim in all this doesn’t mean she has no responsibility for the consequences of her own poor decisions.

    Posted by enad19 at Tuesday, June 12 2012 07:15 AM

    Scrimmage: How does one get to become a close friend? From the number of years that you know each other, from the shared personal experiences? From the level of trust and understanding that you have with that person? Everything that is going on with Sam and everything that Sam currently views as important to her she shares with John. Sure, she is not inviting him to family dinners and he doesn’t stop by to play mah jong, and Jason may hate his guts and Sam may not have met him in 1982, but come on, do you really think that Sam views him as a mere acquaintance, her agony aunt or someone she runs into and spontaneously spills her guts to? Sam is a very private person; she wouldn’t share such intimate details with just anyone and certainly not someone who she didn’t consider to be a close friend. Yes, when they initially met, he was a stranger, but even then, she felt a close connection with him and when Jason accused John of tipping off the papers about their honeymoon fiasco, Sam instinctively knew that John wouldn’t do that and she reassured John that she believed him. That is a close friendship, they may not know every single detail about each other, but she likes, trusts and respects him, so yeah, even without the baby switch, I’m sure that Sam would still be upset with Jason for beating up her close friend.

    Posted by sladest38 at Tuesday, June 12 2012 07:38 AM

    ITA with you enad19,Sam when meeting John,immediately felt a connection that went well beyond a mere chance meeting with a stranger.She felt a closeness that she hadn't felt with anyone not even Jason.No "romantic sparkled connection" just a pure platonic friendship akin to a brother who was not a brother but a brother in harmony.Yes granted she should have Jason what was going on but the info she obtained from looney tunes Heather threw her a major curve ball and John seeing that she needed a friend came forward in spades.Yes John has an agenda but that comes way second after his immediate attraction to Sam.That weird I think I know you in a another life vibe made him feel that Sam is destined to be a friend and John in heroic cape swept in to protect his friend when he felt she was in danger. Sam saw this and when Jason objected it brought out Sam's independence.She feels like How dare he(Jason)act like this,ummmm doesn't Jason feel the same way with Saint Carly? So yes even if Sam didn't loose the baby.Jason's resistance and bully actions has still left a permanent mark on her soul.Will she forgive only time will tell,but if the old Sam is still around it will be along time.

    Posted by enad19 at Tuesday, June 12 2012 07:45 AM

    Sam, prolonging confiding in Alexis could have been based on past experiences where somehow Alexis falls apart and Sam ends up being the one who has to do the consoling. Admittedly, it looked like Alexis was about to truly help Sam, but look what happened the minute that Alexis found out about Sam, she barely had time to console her daughter, before something as serious and tragic as rape became second fiddle to that twit Kristina and the mess that she created when she showed up with a camera crew.
    I concede that Sam has made some very questionable choices including opening the paternity tests with John instead of Jason and yes, going to live in some motel versus staying closer to town or the hospital; although leaving the penthouse is definitely not one of them, and you do have a point in that Sam should have stayed with Alexis, at least giving birth with a stranger pointing a camera directly in front of your lady parts would have been preferable to giving birth in a motel room with a NOT close friend. At least Sam would have had her baby to hold, never mind breastfeeding in front of potentially millions of rabid viewers.

    Posted by Scrimmage at Tuesday, June 12 2012 07:48 AM

    Enad19 wrote: “…do you really think that Sam views him as a mere acquaintance, her agony aunt or someone she runs into and spontaneously spills her guts to?”

    I choose #3, which is the way the writers set it up. Sam should’ve shut the door on McBat’s face at Alexis’ house after she found out he was a cop, but she didn’t. That was HER decision. They weren’t friends, they barely know each other, and they should’ve never grown close in the first place. NOW McBat knows her as intimately as someone can, and that’s all on Sam too. It’s not like he’s the only person in the world she could’ve talked to.

    Would YOU be friends with someone who had it in for your husband, or was trying to send him to prison, or at the very least, ruin his business, even if they were the most caring and supportive person you had ever met? What’s the point of wedding vows where you pledge that your spouse comes before all others? I think that still applies even when that spouse is being a butthole.


    Posted by sladest38 at Tuesday, June 12 2012 07:52 AM

    enad19-Sam mentioning last night on how clingy and overly sentimental her Mother sisters are,shows that she`s very uncomfortable with `non romantic`closeness all that touchy feely overtures goes against her independence.John doesn`t do that and that only makes him more trustworthy to Sam.

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