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    Sonny catching Kate and Johnny in the act

    Started by Axl Rose at 2012/04/23 03:51PM
    Latest post: 2012/04/24 06:00PM, Views: 1839, Replies: 69
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    #61   2012/04/24 10:27AM
    Re: Sonny catching Kate and Johnny in the act
    Axl Rose
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    Johnny Boy, I love Johnny as much as the next guy, believe me I do but after yesterday's episode, he went as low as you can go, taking advantage of Kate/Connie by having sex with her in that bed and all to get back at Sonny. There are better ways of getting back at Sonny rather than resorting to having sex with Kate who is mentally unstable, she has DID, she wasn't in her right frame of mind, so in a way Johnny did take advantage of Kate much like how Ford took advantage of Jessica Buchanan on One Life to Live

    Johnny and Ford what they did is exactly similar

    Because Johnny knew that Kate had DID, he was aware of her mental instability but yet he still slept with her and all just to get one over on Sonny

    That's low even for Johnny, to take advantage of someone who is mentally ill

    #62   2012/04/24 11:26AM
    Re: Sonny catching Kate and Johnny in the act
    shepmajor
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    Quote AdrianeG: Just read this at another site and had to bring it here

    This poster talked to her brother who is a laywer, about the situation.

    My brother, a lawyer, has handled all matters of adult and child abuse issues. After reading this thread, I was mentioning about this rape stuff.... I told him, over cake and coffee, about the deal with Kate/Connie..His comments:

    Even if someone was somewhat crazy, a psychiatric evaluation would be done and if the woman/either personality, has common sense and knows right from wrong and all that long legal stuff he was saying, it would not be considered rape and no charges could even be brought.. And he said ''if the law says not, then it is not.


    +++++++++++
    C/K is a smart woman. Each one of her personalites is totally able to make decisions.


    First of all - said brother/lawyer would have to be given the FACTS before making any legal pronouncements. Like, for instance YOU are going by the premise that Kate was refusing to seek further treatment - that is NOT true. Kate agreed to commit herself to Shadybrook - she just asked to go tell Sonny face-to-face what was going on. So you're wrong to say that Kate knowingly refused any further help. Connie took over before Kate could tell Sonny anything. Kate was HELPLESS at that point. Completely incapabale of consenting to a glass of iced tea, let alone sex. THAT is the very definition of rape. Johnny was fully aware of this and so, yes, he completely and knowingly took advantage of Kate's mental instability. Again, rape.

    He was not backed into any corner of either/or. He could have walked out and gone to find Ewen and explained what Connie was doing. Ewen could have then intervened and Sonny wouldn't have been able to retaliate. If anything, he would have OWED Johnny for NOT taking advantage of Kate at her most vulnerable. Kate could have been committed and the situation explained to Sonny. End of conflict.

    Johnny chose to go the scumbag route. He is not only hurting Kate with this, or Sonny. But Olivia - whom he really has nothing against or reason to hurt - and Carly.

    His inner-dirt bag has taken over, and now he's a rapist, in spirit if not in fact.

    #63   2012/04/24 12:31PM
    Re: Sonny catching Kate and Johnny in the act
    ransomha
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    Quote shepmajor:
    Quote AdrianeG: Just read this at another site and had to bring it here

    This poster talked to her brother who is a laywer, about the situation.

    My brother, a lawyer, has handled all matters of adult and child abuse issues. After reading this thread, I was mentioning about this rape stuff.... I told him, over cake and coffee, about the deal with Kate/Connie..His comments:

    Even if someone was somewhat crazy, a psychiatric evaluation would be done and if the woman/either personality, has common sense and knows right from wrong and all that long legal stuff he was saying, it would not be considered rape and no charges could even be brought.. And he said ''if the law says not, then it is not.


    +++++++++++
    C/K is a smart woman. Each one of her personalites is totally able to make decisions.


    First of all - said brother/lawyer would have to be given the FACTS before making any legal pronouncements. Like, for instance YOU are going by the premise that Kate was refusing to seek further treatment - that is NOT true. Kate agreed to commit herself to Shadybrook - she just asked to go tell Sonny face-to-face what was going on. So you're wrong to say that Kate knowingly refused any further help. Connie took over before Kate could tell Sonny anything. Kate was HELPLESS at that point. Completely incapabale of consenting to a glass of iced tea, let alone sex. THAT is the very definition of rape. Johnny was fully aware of this and so, yes, he completely and knowingly took advantage of Kate's mental instability. Again, rape.

    He was not backed into any corner of either/or. He could have walked out and gone to find Ewen and explained what Connie was doing. Ewen could have then intervened and Sonny wouldn't have been able to retaliate. If anything, he would have OWED Johnny for NOT taking advantage of Kate at her most vulnerable. Kate could have been committed and the situation explained to Sonny. End of conflict.

    Johnny chose to go the scumbag route. He is not only hurting Kate with this, or Sonny. But Olivia - whom he really has nothing against or reason to hurt - and Carly.

    His inner-dirt bag has taken over, and now he's a rapist, in spirit if not in fact.


    Great post Shep!

    #64   2012/04/24 12:33PM
    Re: Sonny catching Kate and Johnny in the act
    ransomha
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    [quote]Quote AdrianeG: [quote]Quote JaneDoe: [quote]Quote stagwood: I personally don't think they did, but Sonnyreacts first and maybe thinks later.[quote]

    Exactly, which is why it was smarter for Johnny to let Sonny think Kate wanted him instead of him thinking he attacked her. It gives him a moment to pause, because now it's not only about Johnny's actions but about Kate's betrayal. Either way Johnny is in deep..... but thinking fast, this was his best option knowing how Sonny reacts.[/quote]

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    Your right. Not only that Sonny could probably get away with murder if he claimed he shot Johnny because he was attacking Kate. Claudia claimed Johnny shot Logan when he was trying to rape her. (when Johnny wanted to go to jail instead of letting Lulu go) Michael got away with using excessive force against a 100lb woman who was walking away with his little sister.

    If Sonny shot Johnny when he was in bed with K/C and claimed he was raping her, physical evidence (on Kate) would show that is not the case.[/quote]

    How do you know this as fact?
    He could have been rough leaving marks,
    she could have his DNA inside of her,
    Kate could say it's against her will.
    We don't KNOW anything.

    #65   2012/04/24 12:49PM
    Re: Sonny catching Kate and Johnny in the act
    ransomha
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    Johnny just admitted to sleeping with Connie.

    #66   2012/04/24 01:02PM
    Re: Sonny catching Kate and Johnny in the act
    stagwood
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    Quote ransomha: Johnny just admitted to sleeping with Connie.


    Yep, and Sonny's gun did make my expected apperance.

    #67   2012/04/24 01:49PM
    Re: Sonny catching Kate and Johnny in the act
    ransomha
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    Quote stagwood:
    Quote ransomha: Johnny just admitted to sleeping with Connie.


    Yep, and Sonny's gun did make my expected apperance.


    He only shot the wall, he could have shot off Johnny's ding-dong. After all, Johnny thinks Sonny is a good enough shot to hit tires on a moving car.

    #68   2012/04/24 03:06PM
    Re: Sonny catching Kate and Johnny in the act
    ransomha
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    I'm waiting for Connie to turn back to Kate and charge Johnny with raping a mentally impaired woman. That would fix is wussy azz.

    Johnny is back to being alone, as he should be.
    Maybe he can snatch himself a new brain.

    #69   2012/04/24 04:24PM
    Re: Sonny catching Kate and Johnny in the act
    M.Alongi
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    Quote shepmajor:
    Quote AdrianeG: Just read this at another site and had to bring it here

    This poster talked to her brother who is a laywer, about the situation.

    My brother, a lawyer, has handled all matters of adult and child abuse issues. After reading this thread, I was mentioning about this rape stuff.... I told him, over cake and coffee, about the deal with Kate/Connie..His comments:

    Even if someone was somewhat crazy, a psychiatric evaluation would be done and if the woman/either personality, has common sense and knows right from wrong and all that long legal stuff he was saying, it would not be considered rape and no charges could even be brought.. And he said ''if the law says not, then it is not.


    +++++++++++
    C/K is a smart woman. Each one of her personalites is totally able to make decisions.


    First of all - said brother/lawyer would have to be given the FACTS before making any legal pronouncements. Like, for instance YOU are going by the premise that Kate was refusing to seek further treatment - that is NOT true. Kate agreed to commit herself to Shadybrook - she just asked to go tell Sonny face-to-face what was going on. So you're wrong to say that Kate knowingly refused any further help. Connie took over before Kate could tell Sonny anything. Kate was HELPLESS at that point. Completely incapabale of consenting to a glass of iced tea, let alone sex. THAT is the very definition of rape. Johnny was fully aware of this and so, yes, he completely and knowingly took advantage of Kate's mental instability. Again, rape.

    He was not backed into any corner of either/or. He could have walked out and gone to find Ewen and explained what Connie was doing. Ewen could have then intervened and Sonny wouldn't have been able to retaliate. If anything, he would have OWED Johnny for NOT taking advantage of Kate at her most vulnerable. Kate could have been committed and the situation explained to Sonny. End of conflict.

    Johnny chose to go the scumbag route. He is not only hurting Kate with this, or Sonny. But Olivia - whom he really has nothing against or reason to hurt - and Carly.

    His inner-dirt bag has taken over, and now he's a rapist, in spirit if not in fact.


    You are going under the assumption that Johnny knew what transpired between Ewen & K/C He did not, in fact Kate herself, (and Connie told him it was Kate talking), told him she was not seeing Ewen for her personality issues. It was just the "in" thing to do these days instead of talking to a girlfriend or priest.

    Johnny spent his life with a man with severe mental issues and he might not see them in someone else as such a big issue. Johnny himself is unstable. A shrewd calculating, intelligent, manipulative woman like Connie was more dangerous to Johnny then he is to her.


    I have to agree with the other post and the lawyer; Each one of this womans pesonalites is mentally capable of making a decision while they are 'out'. The criteria for a rape charge would not be met for several reasons.

    #70   2012/04/24 06:00PM
    Re: Sonny catching Kate and Johnny in the act
    Axl Rose
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    Quote Axl Rose: Johnny Boy, I love Johnny as much as the next guy, believe me I do but after yesterday's episode, he went as low as you can go, taking advantage of Kate/Connie by having sex with her in that bed and all to get back at Sonny. There are better ways of getting back at Sonny rather than resorting to having sex with Kate who is mentally unstable, she has DID, she wasn't in her right frame of mind, so in a way Johnny did take advantage of Kate much like how Ford took advantage of Jessica Buchanan on One Life to Live

    Johnny and Ford what they did is exactly similar

    Because Johnny knew that Kate had DID, he was aware of her mental instability but yet he still slept with her and all just to get one over on Sonny

    That's low even for Johnny, to take advantage of someone who is mentally ill


    Johnny is no better than Robert Ford, in fact he's worse, and he's no better than his grandfather Anthony, taking advantage of a mentally ill woman

    I just hope Carly wises up now and she breaks up with Johnny and Sonny breaks up with Kate

    Nothing like good revenge sex for Sonny & Carly and for Kate or Johnny to walk in on it

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