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    Wednesday, October 09 2013
    Hope and Liam argue about his Steffy video, Wyatt moons over Hope, and Brooke and Quinn discuss their children's love lives.

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    Posted by sassysmiles at Wednesday, October 09 2013 08:02 PM

    I don't get you guys... Hope finally acknowledges that Liam is still into Steffy and you are still not satisfied. Wow. Hope did not throw a tantrum nor has she broken her engagement. She just went home. Here's Liam defending Steffy saying she wouldn't do that but Steffy had Bill stop the gandola which made her watch the ceremony. Why would she trust that she didn't do it?

    Also, When Liam proposed he was not wearing his wedding ring.

    Posted by ziva at Wednesday, October 09 2013 08:19 PM

    Assuming Assuming Assuming there is a lots of assuming in this Soap, and at times we need to assume about a situation or two they cant show every little details that happens in just half an hour show, like the permission to use the cabin and some of the cars they are parked forever at the cabin and many more instances, .Hope seem to have Keys for those occasions it must be someone that have custody of keys and a big family like the Forresters and their extended family connection they must have a original form need to be signed that give permission to certain family members or not to use the Facilities not every time it needs, you have to ask permission I think is done once and copies of keys given so it is not any problem for anyone to coming and going as they please ,I may add just the individual that are provided with the keys..Just think for a example fancy ask Pam for copies of keys and sign form every time someone want to go to BIg Bear cabin Pam would go nuts more than usual .So I think we have to assume permission was granted. I hope is clear now why we have to assume so much in soap land. Have a good night everybody.

    Posted by Wayneswife at Wednesday, October 09 2013 08:29 PM

    Yes please remember hope that Liam was handed to you on a silver
    Platter with a pretty bow. I am a Liam and Steffy fan always.

    Posted by ziva at Wednesday, October 09 2013 08:30 PM

    Hello SAssysmiles you have a point there Hummmm... but I still don't believe that Steffy asked Liam for the video just to make trouble between Hope and Liam. Steffy is changed since the day on the Mountain she is a different woman.She did go to see Hope that day she left offering Liam to her.I just like to believe Steffy sincerity and more of Liam being Liam.STUPID

    Posted by Luv4HunkyHolden at Wednesday, October 09 2013 08:32 PM

    Posted by Tabmow at Wednesday, October 09 2013 12:01 PM

    If Wyatt gets Hope, Brooke's loverstud Bill may feel obliged to drag him back into the family circle. Pity he can't offer him a job right now. Ha!

    Well... Brooke could always offer him a JOB instead?

    Posted by Luv4HunkyHolden at Wednesday, October 09 2013 08:38 PM

    Posted by Dachshundlover1224 at Wednesday, October 09 2013 12:13 PM

    Here We Go Again With You Guys Comparing Your TRASHBOX JR.(Hope) With Steffy To Make Your TRASHBOX JR.(Hope) Look Good. If You Look At LadyBugMik 11:19am Post And You will See Why I Call Your Sweet Little Angel Girl TRASHBOX JR.! Then When You Read The 11:19am Post then You Will See Why But If You still Don't Get It Well......I Can't Help You!!!!!
    Dachs... You HELP ME every time I read your posts... I crack up and that's a good thing.. especially when it has been a long day!

    Posted by ziva at Wednesday, October 09 2013 08:42 PM

    Maybe Wyatt will run a mile if he sees Brooke coming lol after what Oliver told him about her lol he may think he might catch something

    Posted by sassysmiles at Wednesday, October 09 2013 08:53 PM

    Hi Ziva. I'm not saying that Steffy didn't change. But that was a harsh lesson that Hope learned from Steffy. They will always be in the back of her mind. Steffy did that to her and didn't even think about it. Her only thought was to keep Hope and Liam from talking. Why should Hope see her as different. Steffy was who made out with Liam on Hope's wedding day. Steffy was the one that Liam was partying with the day before his second wedding to Hope. And now Hope clearly sees that Liam is still hanging onto Steffy even though he wants Hope. I don't blame her for taking space to think.

    Posted by fredavanbyssum at Wednesday, October 09 2013 08:55 PM

    Im so done with this show they had steffy to have a miscarry and then freaks out and leave Liam so he can go and be with Hope for what 2 months and now she call off her wedding so she can be with a man that acts like he a teenager give me a break and hope isnt no better then her mother so why did she get so up set when she found out that her mother is with her aunts husband when she is going to just run to Wyatt when he Liams brother and as far as Quinn goes she better watch her back when Carloine find out what she did they will be trouble for her lol

    Posted by lyndylooh at Thursday, October 10 2013 12:47 AM

    Boy there has been some nasty bile on this board today...some of it stomach churning.
    Hope has always been in love with the idea of marriage rather than the reality that sometimes those we love let us down. People have some choice about how they react to what happens to them. If you always feel your emotions are the responsibilty of others you will never grow as a person. It not her fault though. Her mother has modelled this behaviour all Hopes life.Too much destiny talk has warped her view of a realistic view of her relationship with Liam.

    But I. agree with others here that she has never acknowledged that Liam has loved Steffy...maybe briefly but otherwise she is generally insight less and to prone to blaming others for the deficiencies in her relationship.
    Steffy understood Liams conflicted emotions. If Hope accepted that then she could make a choice about whether or not she can live with it and if not just walk away.
    She has also never accepted her part in the problems she has had. When you constantly blame others rather than looking long and hard at yourself and what you want you will probably never be happy with anyone.
    If she owned her own faults she could mature and make more wise decisions. Sadly I feel she is incapable. She needs time on.her sort out her values rather than parading around values she doesnt really live by.
    Because she is her mothers daughter a whole lifetime may be too long to learn. She should reject the wishy wash Liam and the freely Wyatt and just say she's taking a break from allof the Steffy has...but her insecurities mean that she doesn't feel ok about herself unless she is the object of devotion all the time.
    And now she is going to mummy dearest for advice! God help her. Her real father...the ex con would give better advice.

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