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    Friday, October 04 2013
    Donna lets Bill know how she feels, Brooke confronts Donna about what she heard, and the Hope For The Future fashion show is held.

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    Posted by Va. Hillibilly at Sunday, October 06 2013 07:42 AM

    Hello Old and New Posters: I have watched the show again and read all the posts. IMO: I thought Caroline did a fantastic job on HFTF line. The dresses looked elegant and fashionable. Quinn's jewelry line complimented the dresses. I liked how the showcase the diamond and the dress. Hope did an excellent job on the runway and she knows how to model and her introduction to the line was great. I don't think Liam should have been allowed backstage and his comment on the diamond and Wyatt was totally uncalled for. He is a rude pompous azz and he brags to much, for my taste; just like Bill does. I can see why Quinn dislikes how Liam treats Wyatt and Hope. Liam acts as through he has Hope wrapped around his little finger and she will jump when he says jump. I can also see where Hope will be upset over the video. Since her and Liam always get so close to the marriage and something always goes wrong. Liam is a huge goof up and it's always of his own making. I think if Hope and Liam were married and he made the video, she would have accepted it better; but until they are physically married it would be a sore spot for her. Maturity has nothing to do with it and neither does love; it's the principle of their past history and it repeating itself, plus the fact Liam kept it from her. If there was nothing to hide, Liam should have told Hope what happened up front and there wouldn't or shouldn't have been a problem. It's the fact of him not trusting Hope and being truthful and up front with her. Wyatt has been truthful, honest, and up front with Hope from the start. He even tells Hope she may not like what he is going to say or ask and then tells her. He hasn't sugar coated anything like Liam does. Wyatt makes her think and challenges Hope in a way Liam doesn't. I think Hope and Liam will not get married. Hope appears more self assured woman as a model and in business than she does around Liam. I kind of feel bad for Donna; Brooke always wants some one to cover her azz and puts Donna in the middle. Donna needs to tell Brooke, that she is not covering for her anymore and the ring is a fantasy and not a secret to keep, and that Katie has a right to know about it and she either tells her herself or she will. No more coverups or lies, as to many people are involved in Brooke's mess and it is time to dust the cobwebs out and face the consequences of their actions. They have no one is to blame, but themselves for all the heartache they have caused the families.

    Posted by Va. Hillibilly at Sunday, October 06 2013 07:46 AM

    I forgot to add. Donna needs to tell Brooke that they keep telling themselves and everyone it was Katie's fault, they may actually believe it themselves and that family doesn't matter to either one of them; just themselves and their selfishness.

    Posted by sassysmiles at Sunday, October 06 2013 08:15 AM

    Va Hillbilly, I just wanted to say that I loved your post. You should repost it on Monday. I also think that by Liam not telling Hope about the video that is a problem. If it was an innocent gesture then he should have told Hope. Trust is important and neither has it for the other. I want Hope to be with Wyatt. They are a better fit. But as soon as she takes a step away from Liam she's a ho but she is also one for staying with him. So Hope never wins. Half of this board makes up what she is going to do but hasn't done yet as an excuse to call her a trashbox; it's actually funny.

    Posted by Va. Hillibilly at Sunday, October 06 2013 09:19 AM

    Hello Sassysmiles: ITA with your post. I want Hope with Wyatt, also. I think Liam has had ample time to do the right thing, by Hope. He keeps letting her down and breaking her heart. I think with Wyatt, she gets and honest truthful opinion. He may or may not be a Spencer and that has little to do with it; except Brooke wants it. I disagree with the statement it Hope and Liam get married she will be marrying her cousin or half brother. She and Liam were before Brooke and Bill, plus they are marriage kin and not blood kin; either way no kin. Brooke has been pushing for their marriage from the time he found out he was a Spencer and because of Steffy. Hope has made herself perfectly clear to Liam about him and Steffy; that she will move on. Wyatt is her opposite and they compliment one another. Liam will always be special to her; but Wyatt will be bring out the true woman in her and make her the best and stand behind her, as an equal and not like Liam, who puts her down and smothers her.

    Posted by notodo at Sunday, October 06 2013 09:28 AM

    OT (kind of)

    A dear friend of mine and her husband were watching Friday's episode. Her husband had no choice but to watch it at that time. Anyway, when he saw Hope, his exact words were "D_M, I'm going to he!!" Lol

    Yes, Hope rocked the runway!

    Posted by Va. Hillibilly at Sunday, October 06 2013 09:28 AM

    I don't blame Quinn for not liking Liam, as he has put Wyatt down, ever since Bill acknowledged him as his son and because Hope knew him first. Liam can't stand the fact that Hope has other options besides him. He is even jealous of the Hope diamond to make the snide remarks he made about it. I think Quinn wants Wyatt to be happy and to best Liam; even if that means helping him win Hope by any means possible. Liam is to smug and thinks because Hope waited, she will always be his; but time heals and mends broke hearts, promises, and some lies. Wyatt has time on his side, if the video gets to Hope via email.

    Posted by Va. Hillibilly at Sunday, October 06 2013 09:35 AM

    Hello Notodo: ITA. She looked great and she did HFTF line justice and the diamond was the crowning touch. The pose and the eyes spoke volumns and the walk down the runway; she had it nailed from the get go. Did you notice the proud look Wyatt had of her? Liam was all about catching the kiss(duh). This was her and Wyatt's day and Liam was just an eyesore. I was proud Hope, Caroline, and Wyatt and Quinn. I hate to see the movie stars on the red carpet and have a beautiful outfit and no jewelry. The jewelry compliments the wearer and the outfit.

    Posted by Va. Hillibilly at Sunday, October 06 2013 09:52 AM

    I thought of another thing that doesn't fit with Liam with Hope. Liam took Steffy places and showed her what he likes to do and they did them together. He hasn't one time shared these with Hope; all he wants to do with her is stay in bed. There is more than sex to a relationship. Hope really doesn't know as much about the real Liam, as Steffy does. If he was truly honest with himself and who he actually loves, I believe it would be Steffy and not Hope. I think with Hope he feels a different type of love for her, like he needs to protect and guard her, like a piece of crystal glass. He didn't do this with Steffy, it was fun and sex, together, more like a couple working at building a relationship.

    Posted by notodo at Sunday, October 06 2013 10:25 AM

    Va, Hill----hi there

    Honestly, I don't believe he's in love with either. He loves both for different reasons though .

    I don't think Hope is aware of his hidden hobbies. Heck, Steffy didn't know during their first marriage and neither did he about Steffy.

    Sometimes STEAM's interaction reminded me of brother and sisterly love.
    But they did have fun together.

    He and Hope are conversing more now than before!

    But both girls deserve better

    I so wanted Liam to rescind his marriage vows before Steffy.. I do believe in time, he would have broken his vows because he's not marriage material.

    Steffy made me perturbed cuz she had me defending Liam! Lol
    She told Hope that their relationship was more than the pregnancy (paraphrasing) so she should have fought and honored her vows to Liam.
    I thought I would never use the word coward to describe Steffy. The old Steffy wouldn't have given up so easily, she would have fought for her family.

    I think in time she will be able to conceive but I hope she doesn't want Liam to supply the fertilizer!

    Pardon typos

    Return later after Saints game

    Posted by Va. Hillibilly at Sunday, October 06 2013 10:52 AM

    I don't think needs to settle down until he knows what he is looking for in a woman. He is more immature than Hope or Steffy. The ladies need some more growing space. Liam needs to get the playboy Spencer out of his system. I don't think either lady should just settle for Liam; but someone who compliments each one for who they are. Did you notice Thorne didn't clap and was looking around at everyone else clapping in the dressing room, after Rick gave his speech. I wonder what he was thinking.

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