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    Keep The Water Cold.

    Wednesday, July 17 2013
    Maya rebuffs Carter's overtures, Wyatt continues to question Quinn about the necklace, and Liam tells Hope what happened in Paris.

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    Posted by chairer at Thursday, July 18 2013 03:32 AM

    So many of these comments have shown a lack of the history with the various characters. Remember when Liam went to the mountain in Aspen to meet up with Hope. Steffi got news of Hope's presence in Aspen, arrange with Bill to have Hope trapped in the gondola, arrived in wedding garb and married Liam. Liam did not even know that Steffi was planning a wedding and they did not even have any prior discussion on marriage, here again Steffi walked out of the marriage and did not give her husband a reason, also made the decision as to whom he should be with. Yet so many of you are debasing Hope for speaking up and standing firm on her principles. Give her a break.

    Posted by Luvdasoaps at Thursday, July 18 2013 04:01 AM

    umm, I don't think you know your history. Steffy and Liam went to Aspen. Hope's family convinced her to go get her man back after she gave the ring back. smh.

    Posted by Luvdasoaps at Thursday, July 18 2013 04:08 AM

    Posted by please no more at Wednesday, July 17 2013 11:07 PM

    For the pro HOpe, go HOpe fans. The only reason HOpe is not interested in Liam is because she doesn't have to steal him from Steffy. The excitement and feeling of victory of winning over Taylor's family is gone and so is HOpe.
    If she cared for Liam the way she says she does she would give him more than a few hours to remove his ring. She wants everything instantaneous and her way she can not handle or cope with things being any other way. She is a self entitled brat. She had no remorse or sympathy for Steffy when she was chasing her husband down hours after her baby was lost trying to get back what was hers. Now she is being given him on a silver platter she doesn't want him because she is used to getting attention. She loved it when Oliver and Liam were fighting over her, she loved fighting with Steffy over Liam, now she is going to pit Wyatt and Liam against each other for her affections. She always has to be the monkey in the middle getting all the attention. She has to feed that big ego of her.
    She has not matured. Just got a little better at playing the game. Wonder if she will tease Liam that she is sleeping with Wyatt just to get him jealous. She is only intrigued by Wyatt because of the mystery of the necklace when she finds out who's daddy Wyatt's is she will leave him high and dry too. Unless miss HOpie is the center of attention forget about it.....IMHO

    Totally true. Hope couldn't wait to get in Liam's face after Steffy lost the baby because she in her heart felt that Steffy trapped Liam with the baby and that was why he was with her. Well she found out that it wasn't the case and that Liam was really in love with his wife. Girl is crazy. I watched the episode and just shook my head.

    Posted by Luvdasoaps at Thursday, July 18 2013 04:18 AM

    I just couldn't believe the stuff coming out of Hope's mouth. She couldn't wait for him to go and see Steffy and then when he gets back she says you're back quick. Make up your mind! Then she goes on to say I bet you kissed her when you left, blah, blah. So what! She thinks she's so this and that and clearly she finds out she's not all that in Liam's eyes.

    I think she failed to forget that when Liam and Steffy were together prior to the marriage she was the one that was daydreaming about Liam and crying. Liam had moved on. She forgets alot of things at her age and its alarming. LOL. Just don't get it.

    Posted by Luvdasoaps at Thursday, July 18 2013 04:19 AM

    Of course its Hope's world and whatever she says is truthful. The girl is a straight con and I will always be a non believer of this clown girl.

    Posted by Luvdasoaps at Thursday, July 18 2013 04:24 AM

    Posted by billsgal at Wednesday, July 17 2013 08:02 PM

    I can't believe that anyone at this point is giving Hope props for one of her pretty little speeches when she'll turn right around and still get engaged or married to Liam. I've seen Hope make this speech which is basically your love isn't good enough and I deserve better and then a few days later she was chasing, apologizing, and begging Liam to come back. The only thing different is this time Liam can't run to Steffy because she told him bye and has stuck by it. However, I would lmao if Liam took Hope at her word and took a moment to be alone and then asked that Teresa? chick out for coffee
    I so agree. YOu saw the episode too. I was yelling at the TV like no, you didn't say it that way now you feeling different now because Wyatt has a thing for you. She does realize that Liam was still married when she was all in his face talking about she's sorry for loss of his child and making goo goo eyes at him like what ya going to do now since the baby is gone. She is just a fruit loop like the rest of those Logans, all in the same bowl.

    Posted by BHOLD at Thursday, July 18 2013 04:25 AM

    Posted by please no more at Wednesday, July 17 2013 11:31 PM

    Posted by Dachshundlover1224 at Wednesday, July 17 2013 05:39 PM

    Posted by Greema2four at Wednesday, July 17 2013 04:17 PM

    Let's get one thing straight. Hopie Boo Hoo is NOT, I repeat NOT walking away from Liam. No matter what she said today, how empowered she thinks she is....she will be on his arm by tomorrow. Hopie just figures she is in the driver's seat again so all of a sudden she "deserves" more. She was BEGGING Liam a couple of days ago to "have their chance"....we can be together bullcrap. Now all of a sudden, she wants more?? I don't think so. Game time!! Plus she has Wyatt telling her exactly what she wants to hear....she will enjoy his compliments, use him to make Liam jealous and be back dictating to Liam by next week and telling him how "lucky" he is that she took him back.

    I would NEVER EVA put it passed that TRASHBOX JR.!!!!!!
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    Neither would I.



    Posted by BHOLD at Thursday, July 18 2013 04:49 AM

    Posted by chairer at Thursday, July 18 2013 01:40 AM

    Let's not forget the history of Hope and Liam. Hope told Liam, Steffi manipulated her way into his head and (his bed)which is quite true.Steffi put her dignity on hold, if ever she had, and relentlessly persuaded Liam. Are we forgetting how Steffi connived with Bill to get 2 marriages out of Liam. Of course Liam has spent a lot more time with Steffi in the sac,and she lied her way to let Liam believe that she means well, it is very natural that he developed feelings/love for her but that was not the case at first. Liam is spineless and truly can not make up his mind. Hope has conducted herself with class and dignity, she has her standard and should not compromise. Steffi did not demonstrate any and she settled for Liam;s back and forth. I can' imagine why there is so much trash talk about Hope. But every one is entitled to an opinion, but comments should be based on all the facts and not jut a select few. Just saying...........

    What did Bill have to do with Lili and Steffy's second wedding? The episode I watch showd Lili telling HOpe he wanted to marry Steffy because he wanted to be a dad and the baby was made out of love.

    After the first fiasco of a marriage. Steffy was straight up with Lili and she never hid her agenda from him. Wasn't Steffy's fault HOpe couldn't comprehend what was going on within Steffy''s and Lili's relationship. (was none of her business)

    What's wrong with two consenting adults making love? That's what people do. Just cause HOpe couldn't get down without taking a pill ain't Steffy's fault.

    I have to agree, Lili can't make up his own mind and it's totally debatable if he even has one.

    Class and dignity flew straight out the window when Ms. Me moved in with a married man and lied to her adoring, delusional fans about her high standards and morals.

    Posted by Va. Hillibilly at Thursday, July 18 2013 04:57 AM

    Hello all posters: I've read everyone's posts. I see a lot of good points through out. Just thinking back over some of the shows, I remember a lot of S/L/H episodes with mixed emotions. IMO: From the start of H/L, they were friends. H helped L to find out who he was and in the meantime, fell in love not because of who the other was, but they took time to get to know one another. Then, on the other hand you had B and S. S was trying to make a major power play with B over FC and S won. In the meantime S and B became closer and more involved. S and B were ready to go to the next level, as S had fell in love with B. Then, the matter of K heart and T stopping them; put a halt to anything that seriously might have happened, between B and S. B decided it wasn't worth losing K over and dropped S. S was davistated over this and fell in the tub and passed out. H and L's relationship was still blooming and getting more serious. B sent L to return his key to S. L found S passed out in the tub and saved her. She was ok. L did the right thing by helping her. S just hurting from B; miss took an act of L kindness and acted by kissing L and calling him her hero. L told S he was with H. S kept up kissing L at every chance she got and making sexual comments to him. S kept this up behind H's back. L held Steffy off, as best as he could; until H saw them kissing and broke their engagement. B in the meantime was pushing S and L together. S had no boundaries set and H did. When she saw them kissing' H was hurt and in shock, as she was caught off guard by this; as L was engaged to her and H felt he overstepped that and left. L and S came in found the ring. L didn't know why and didn't try to find out either. He asked S to marry him on the spot, all the while S was weaving her web around him and stoking his ego and putting a wedge between L and H. They slept together and went to Asphen. From there B and S started pushing harder;in L confused state of mind over H. He wanted to find out why H did what she did. B and S arranged all the rest to suit themselves; with no consideration to how H and L felt. H and l wanted to talk and S pulled the plug on any attempt L and H tried to make to settle what happened. S and B pulled the surprise wedding on L waiting for H. It's been up and down on the S/L/H/B ever since. Fas forward ahead and S wants L so bad and was still putting a wedge between H and L. I think from the beginning H and L were truly in love. S did everything she knew H wouldn't do to try and keep L. Then, Br came in and put the power trip in H's head and she believed her mom; even though it went against all H believed in. H slept with L and H has paid the price for it in spades. L goes to S each time to discuss everything with S and B. S bided her time, to get him back and she did and got pregnant. H knew the agony of L and family meant to L. H knew L should marry S; for the baby and L did. L also loved S, too. It was easy for L to marry S and he still loved H, too. H knew only what he kept telling her; which was he still loved her. He has used this line and kept H believing that he still wanted her, even though L kept telling S the same thing. H only knew what he said and showed her. She wanted to believe L so badly, that she was blinded by the truth. She knew the old l and not the Sp L. L liked to lead both ladies along. L does love both and doesn't want to lose either one. L also thinks it's ok to do this and doesn't see that it's wrong. L has forgotten along the way who he is or was. H only sees the old L; not the Sp tainted L. L doesn't deep down care about either, because he has B drilling Sp standards into L him ever since B found out L is his son. L has done so much brain washing on H and S that they believe every word he says. Not knowing that L is telling both of them the same thing. He needs to be in the same room with both H and L and they see. L is to blame for most of this. B/Br/S/T have all played a part in all of the H/L/S storyline. S and H both are being used to ego trip L. H is beginning to see what L is doing and doesn't want to be a part of it any more. W had entered the picture and has told H what she needed to hear and see. W also has opened H eyes to how L is treating her and H doesn't want to be L's WELCOME MAT and H told him that yesterday. L has beat these ladies confidenes and self respect down so badly, that they have lost sight of who they really are and what they stand for. H wants more than being second beat. She has told L that from day one that she wants to be the #1 in her husbands life; which is right. It has nothing to with H manupliating L. H had high standards from the start and it isn't something that she just started saying. The old L fell in love for this and why he still loves H. S never put any limits on herself or L. L only sees what L wants and he will lie to get it from one or the other. L is a selfish woman abuser. H need to find her self, be the woman she knows she is, with her own standards and find a man who is willing to commit to her wholeheartly and respects the woman she truly is. This man will compliment her, as well as himself. I don't mean for this to sound like a lecture.

    Posted by Luvdasoaps at Thursday, July 18 2013 04:59 AM

    @BHOLD. I so agree. I don't get it either.

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