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Posted by Blesseddiva at Friday, June 08 2012 01:12 PM

@Kitt,
I felt so bad when you said your MIL doesn't love you. I can't see how a parent wouldn't care for someone who loves their child. I appreciate my kids teachers, pediatrician etc. Anyone who honestly cares for my kids is good person to me. I hope that when my children are old enough to chose a mate, I will love them too. Because I trust my kids won't bring home some mass murdering ho (LOL).

Is hating you worth losing her son over? if that is the case, then she doesn't love her own son.

Anyway, I would be devastated if my in-law didn't like me. It would try really hard because it would put my husband in an awkward postion. I think Hope was just putting forth effort. She is young and naive, and didn't go about it the wrong way.
With Bill Spencer, the only thing Hope can do, is Show Him The Money. It's about actions. Bill admires certain characterisics, and Hope has to demonstrate that to him. She has to earn his respect. I don't think she has had anyone really dislike her like this before. Bill is really mean. He may never accept her as a daughter in law.

The difference between your situation and Hope's is that your husband had your back completely. Your husband put your first. Liam knew that Bill was Team STeffi and Liam still confided about the pills, the shrink etc. Liam hasn't protected Hope in this regard. So the support of the spouse makes all the difference in these situations.

Continue to make your husband happy and maybe one day your MIL will come around. If not, it is 3 less people she will have at her funeral.

Posted by sandee1977 at Friday, June 08 2012 01:13 PM

Posted by Blesseddiva at Friday, June 08 2012 12:40 PM

Posted by radmommy at Friday, June 08 2012 12:21 PM

@Blesseddiva - Yes IF Hope and Liam get married it will help Steffy move on. But I don't see it happening... If he chooses Steffy in the end do you think Hope will move on?
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I think Hope tried to move on with Thomas, even though it was hard for her. I think how Steffi manipulated Liam into marrying her kept Hope from feeling like Liam and Hope had ended on their own terms. Had Liam chosen Steffi, I believe Hope would have left him alone, despite the difficulty.

I can still see Hope with Thomas because I see Rick winning Caroline. So it can work out for all. Besides, Thomas was completed mesmerized by Hope. Hope needs someone completely focused on her. I would actually like that for Steffi too, but she likes men who can't be all about her. she is okay with half of a man's heart.

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Hope and Thomas won't work because Thomas and CAroline are getting closer. Liam did choose Steffy when he decided to stay married to her and Hope was not trying to hear it. Even though Tomas tried to take her away form it all she told him that she will never give up on Liam. Thomas gave up on Hope and now he has Caroline. Hope best bet was Oliver. I don't get how she forgave Brooke and Liam and not Oliver. She also never got any closeure from that relationship as well. I guess if Steffy had moved on to Oliver and they were happy Hope will all of a sudden remember how Oliver is her first love then we are back to square one. Then Brooke will come with Hope had him first and becasue Brooke will feel that it was her fault the realtionship end will go on her pursuit on bring Hope and Oliver back together again.

Posted by sandee1977 at Friday, June 08 2012 01:16 PM

Posted by ctigg at Friday, June 08 2012 12:49 PM

@ radmommy ref; Hope asked Steffy and said it was like pouring salt in her wound . . .
Gee, kinda sounds like when Ridge forced Hope to toast Steffy’s marriage at their Thanksgiving dinner. You know, when Steffy was sucking face with Liam every chance she got, in front of Hope, rubbing her nose in it
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Are we still on that toast thing? Did Hop ereally toast them or did she use that as an opportunity to tell Liam that sh ewill always love him and know that they will be together again? She used the toast to her advantage and look now she got Liam and does nto have to bother with Ridge again. He did not make her dress and may not even walk her down the aisle so it is a win win for her.

Posted by da_kid at Friday, June 08 2012 01:18 PM

We must be fair. It may have been dumb for Hope to invite Steffy to participate in her wedding, but it was just as dumb for Stefy to agree. On this one issue they are equally stupid. Why is Hope inviting Steffy such a disaster, but Steffy flying to Italy with the couple and participating in the wedding oh so sensible.

Posted by sandee1977 at Friday, June 08 2012 01:18 PM

Plus by the way Hope had to do that fake toast and Steffy had to hear about her sexing Liam, watch them snuggling on a plane ride to Aspen and know that Liam was sharing the same bed they shared with Hope for months. So which is worse.

Posted by kit077 at Friday, June 08 2012 01:24 PM

Let's remember the original reason Hope was taken to see Dr. Barton...yes, I said TAKEN, as in Brooke TOOK Hope there. Dr. Barton was brought on the soap to play the part of a sex therapist. Brooke TOOK Hope to see Dr. Barton because Brooke was horrified that Hope did not enjoy her sexual experience. Remember how Hope recoiled the morning after when Liam went to touch her? Remember Brooke's disbelief when she went to Liam's house with a celebratory breakfast in hand and found out that Liam had left for work? Yes, Hope is now discovering she has other major issues as well, but the original reason Brooke sought therapy for Hope was because Hope does not enjoy sex. Once Hope began to discuss her "daddy issues" with Dr. Barton and told Brooke about it, Brooke ran to Dr. Barton and told her not to discuss Deacon with Hope. Hope has issues that go much deeper than anything Steffy has endured. Steffy is grounded and can handle herself in any given situation. Hope runs to Mommy or Aunt Katie with her problems, then takes Mommy's/Aunt Katie's bad advice and runs with it.

Posted by da_kid at Friday, June 08 2012 01:27 PM

Thank you Blessiddiva for your 12:34 post. I couildn't have said it better. Steffy is not classy, she is pitiful. I gave her credit just a few days ago, then she turns around and flies to Italy with the engaged couple hoping that something will go wrong. She is definitely hr mother's daughter. That is exactly what Taylor has done for years, always waiting for Brooke to screw up so she can take Ridge back, even when she knows where his heart is.

Liam's heart may be with Steffy. We don't know because the dummy doesn't talk, but he let the divorce go through, and he's still going along with the wedding plans. A classy woman would have accepted this and bowed out long ago.

Posted by sandee1977 at Friday, June 08 2012 01:30 PM

Posted by Blesseddiva at Friday, June 08 2012 12:52 PM

Posted by vicg787 at Friday, June 08 2012 12:21 PM

HOW IS HOPE A PSYCHOPATH? WELL FOR STARTERS SHE NEEDS TO STOP TRYING TO FORCE PEOPLE TO LIKE HER. SHE IS BEYOND NEEDY. AND ITS MESSED UP TO INVITE STEFFY TO THE WEDDING. LIAM MIGHT BE MARRYING HOPE BUT HE LOVES BOTH AND BOTH KNOW IT. SO WHY WOULD HOPE WANT THE OTHER WOMAN THAT HE LOVES TO BE AT HER "DREAM" WEDDING. WHO.DOES THAT HOPE THATS WHO. HOPES GOT MADD ISSUES ATLEAST STEFFY OWNS UP TO HER FAULTS. HOPE RARELY DOES TO ANYTHING.
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Wanting others to like you doesn't make someone a psycho. It makes them human, with a desire, need and want to connect to others in her family. that is perfectly normal. I would be worried if she didn't give a rats-ass about what Steffi and Bill felt or thought.

Steffi and Bill MADE Hope watch Steffi's wedding against Hope's wish. Was that psycho of them?

Even if Steffi owns up to her issues, it doesn't negate the fact that she has them. Knowing that you are a selfish Biotch doesn't mean that you aren't a biotch. It just means you know it and don't care. At least Hope is seeking professional counseling, which is more than I can say for Steffi. Seeking help means that Hope is trying to deal with her issues, but I don't expect the issues to be resolved over night. Like the say, rome wasn't built in a day.

I will applaud Steffi for telling Liam that day he told her his decision to leave her that she is trying to work on her issues. I can also say I have seen some difference in her. But her issues are deep seated issues of abandoment, inferiority complex and just self-centeredness. She really needs to see a shrink too. Both girls need it and only one (Hope) is actually getting professional help.

In closing, I still don't see any evidence of psychopathic behavior.

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Steffy sought therapy after her relationship with Rick. Hope is seeking therapy not for her faults but her inability to be initmate with Liam. This initmacy issue started before Liam even married Steffy. The reason why Hope is seeking therapy is becoming diluted and lost in translation. Steffy admits she is not perfect and puts up a front. Hope does not admit it. She place her faults on Steffy and anything else she can think of. The list is becoming so long I think it is goign to take Dr. Barton some time to sort it all. Her faults are due to her initmacy issues, her mother issues, Steffy Forrrester issues, media issues, hypocracy issues, morality issues, and now daddy issues. Hope main issue is that she want Miss Perfect. She wasnt sto have the perfect life, the perfect carrer, the perfect family, the perfect everything. If things don't seem perfect she goes nuts. Her first night with Liam was not perfect and poof she had to go to therapy. When her decision to start her marriage in the heart brough on less thna perfect results she had panic attacks. What will she do when the reality of Liam seeks in and he cannot give her the perfect life she expected once they're married? Will Liam have to pretend? Will Hope have more panic attacks and anxiety? This is why some people consider her nuts. Steffy being a biatch doe snot make her crazy. But someone trying to be somehitng they themselves can't live up to it does make them nuts. If gives them a false sense of reality. JMHO about Hope not bashing just observive.

Posted by sandee1977 at Friday, June 08 2012 01:35 PM

Posted by vicg787 at Friday, June 08 2012 01:11 PM

@ BLESSEDDIVA IT IS PSYCHO IF THE OTHER PERSON HAS MADE IT BRUTALLY CLEAR HE WANTS NOTHING TO DO WITH HER. HE TOLD HER RIGHT. " YOUR MARRYING MY SON! NOT ME! ".. SHE SHOULDNT.CAR
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In Hope head Bill not liing her messes up the perfect picture she has in her head. Her marriage iwll lack perfection if her father in law don't like her and she can't call him dad. Everyone is suppose to love her in her perfect world. Everyone wants to be like her, Steffy is totally jealous of her perfection, Steffy needs Ridge more than she does becasue she is perfect and it will be so perfect of her biodad comes and walk her the perfect aisle. While the inperfect people watch in jealousy but comes around becasue everything is just perfect and they have t share in the perfection of it all. Glimmer, glimmer, shine, shine.

Posted by sandee1977 at Friday, June 08 2012 01:42 PM

Posted by da_kid at Friday, June 08 2012 01:27 PM

Thank you Blessiddiva for your 12:34 post. I couildn't have said it better. Steffy is not classy, she is pitiful. I gave her credit just a few days ago, then she turns around and flies to Italy with the engaged couple
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Not engaged more like bethrothed couple. Liam did not pop the question again. He just decided to pick up where they left off. And Hope accpted it that way because hey she was picked. I wonder if he will do lie RIdge nad pick up where he left of with Steffy without remarrying her. SMDH Imagine if this show was the bachelor. "I know I gave the rose to the first runner up but hey now I picked you. we don't need another rose or ring let's just pcik up where we left off" And that is exactly what happened Liam being unhappy and Hope trying to make him happy while making sure Steffy don't get him.