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When did Liam commit to a life with Steffy?
Started by NCSoapJunkie at 2012/07/04 03:19PMLatest post: 2012/07/05 12:23PM, Views: 1469, Replies: 33
MsLady1020 |
Quote Izitjo: Quote navitavi: Quote NCSoapJunkie: Ok, am I missing something or is Steffy completely blowing out of context the events that happened in Italy? I never heard Liam tell her he wanted to leave Hope and start a life with her. Yes, he told Steffy that he loved her, but how does that translate to "I want to marry you again??" Someone please help! Okay, now I'm going to address your point without being mad at the soap for this crap they are feeding us. I do not know why Steffy would think that except he said it was a new beginning for them. The last time they had a "beginning," they got married within 24hrs, so....Maybe that's her assumption of a new beginning. But I do not know why she thinks she "had" him except for Bill's trickery. Had Bill not done what he did, Liam would never have been in his hotel room to have his baby tantrum that led to him appealing to Steffy. I wish I could explain all this rationally like I used to be able to with these plots, but Liam is not rational, therefore, I cannot fault Steffy or Hope for anything. Speaking of when did he commit to a life with Steffy--he did it when he married her, so it blows my mind completely that he thinks his "obligation" to marry Hope is stronger. Since when do you proclaim love for one woman, marry another within 24 hours of a break up with her, then when you get her back, you still love your wife, but you must divorce your wife to marry the first woman because you owe it to the first woman? I do not understand this logic. Well theres your problem in a nutshell...you are trying to imbue Liam with Logic! Stop that RIGHT THIS MINUTE!! You'll hurt your brain. To answer the question...Steffy was trying to explain Hopesactions and Liam said he didn't care what her reasons were...he was tired of the merry go round. Then when Hope explained, again Liam said that everything had changed. I think he really did want Steffy to come out of the bathroom and break Hopes heart...letting him off the hook. He wants Steffy but he doesn't want people thinking bad of him. He and Hope are suprisingly well matched. I also think he wants Hope. Basically Liam is a putz but he's Hopes putz so I want Steffy out. Let Liam deal with his issues, finally, without a safety net. Well said Izitjo. Now all Liam have to do is stay out of Steffy's face and out of her office. |
Izitjo |
Quote navitavi: Quote NCSoapJunkie: I don't know navi...I saw it more as a rebound once again. Liam thought Hope dumped him, and Steffy was there. To me it seemed more like..."I'm lonely, and you're here again..so lets get out of here." At least this time he didn't slip an engagement ring on her finger. Really, any way you look at it, Liam is a loser and both of these ladies would be better off without him! I agree with every word you wrote. But I'm just saying Liam goes along with anything either woman says. It's truly maddening. I don't think this is the case...I would have if Liam hadn't still wanted to stop the wedding afte he discovered the truth. His words...everythng is changed. I took that to mean his feelings had crystalized about both women and he was leaning towards Steffy. He just didn't have the guts to take what he wanted because he couldn't hurt Hope. Steffy had to make the descision for him to marry Hope....Steffy could have just as easily made the decision for him to NOT marry Hope. When he said today..we both know what you did that brought into sharp relief Liams actual feelings about him, Hope, and Steffy. "Life is about how we honor the commitments we make"...I think he meant the original commitment to Hope. Thats the oblgation and thats why he married and good for him. Not good for Hope. |
tinklebell |
i would like to say when he married her,but we know how that happen,hope was in the gondola, and thats the only reason why he married steffy, liam was not looking to find steffy on top of that hill, he was looking for hope,and mrs thing knew it,thats why he is going to drop her for good this time around. |
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Izitjo |
Quote navitavi: Quote Izitjo: Quote navitavi: Quote NCSoapJunkie: Ok, am I missing something or is Steffy completely blowing out of context the events that happened in Italy? I never heard Liam tell her he wanted to leave Hope and start a life with her. Yes, he told Steffy that he loved her, but how does that translate to "I want to marry you again??" Someone please help! Okay, now I'm going to address your point without being mad at the soap for this crap they are feeding us. I do not know why Steffy would think that except he said it was a new beginning for them. The last time they had a "beginning," they got married within 24hrs, so....Maybe that's her assumption of a new beginning. But I do not know why she thinks she "had" him except for Bill's trickery. Had Bill not done what he did, Liam would never have been in his hotel room to have his baby tantrum that led to him appealing to Steffy. I wish I could explain all this rationally like I used to be able to with these plots, but Liam is not rational, therefore, I cannot fault Steffy or Hope for anything. Speaking of when did he commit to a life with Steffy--he did it when he married her, so it blows my mind completely that he thinks his "obligation" to marry Hope is stronger. Since when do you proclaim love for one woman, marry another within 24 hours of a break up with her, then when you get her back, you still love your wife, but you must divorce your wife to marry the first woman because you owe it to the first woman? I do not understand this logic. Well theres your problem in a nutshell...you are trying to imbue Liam with Logic! Stop that RIGHT THIS MINUTE!! You'll hurt your brain. To answer the question...Steffy was trying to explain Hopesactions and Liam said he didn't care what her reasons were...he was tired of the merry go round. Then when Hope explained, again Liam said that everything had changed. I think he really did want Steffy to come out of the bathroom and break Hopes heart...letting him off the hook. He wants Steffy but he doesn't want people thinking bad of him. He and Hope are suprisingly well matched. I also think he wants Hope. Basically Liam is a putz but he's Hopes putz so I want Steffy out. Let Liam deal with his issues, finally, without a safety net. What you said is not logical, so that's how I know you must have figured Liam out.  Excuse me but I never said Liam was logical..I just said how he behaves. Which is far from anything even remotely logical..and BTW what I said makes perfect sense in Logan land. You're the one trying to make his actions logical. |
navitavi |
Quote Izitjo: Quote navitavi: Quote NCSoapJunkie: I don't know navi...I saw it more as a rebound once again. Liam thought Hope dumped him, and Steffy was there. To me it seemed more like..."I'm lonely, and you're here again..so lets get out of here." At least this time he didn't slip an engagement ring on her finger. Really, any way you look at it, Liam is a loser and both of these ladies would be better off without him! I agree with every word you wrote. But I'm just saying Liam goes along with anything either woman says. It's truly maddening. I don't think this is the case...I would have if Liam hadn't still wanted to stop the wedding afte he discovered the truth. His words...everythng is changed. I took that to mean his feelings had crystalized about both women and he was leaning towards Steffy. He just didn't have the guts to take what he wanted because he couldn't hurt Hope. Steffy had to make the descision for him to marry Hope....Steffy could have just as easily made the decision for him to NOT marry Hope. When he said today..we both know what you did that brought into sharp relief Liams actual feelings about him, Hope, and Steffy. "Life is about how we honor the commitments we make"...I think he meant the original commitment to Hope. Thats the oblgation and thats why he married and good for him. Not good for Hope. I can't buy this. No one held a gun to Liam's head. He did not have to go through with the marriage. And "leaning toward" Steffy is NOT good enough. Why does he have the "guts" to hurt Steffy but not Hope? And if he meant what he said about honoring his commitments, then he would have honored his marriage commitment to Steffy. He had plenty of time to do that after he tore up the annulment papers. It's always been my experience that the person who knows the least is the person the man is actually trying to keep. Usually the second best woman knows EVERYTHING that's been going on, but the main love has no clue. Steffy had better wise up about keeping Liam's secrets, tell Hope the truth and let the chips fall where they may because Liam is no kind of prize. |
gingerlily |
Quote MsLady1020: Quote Izitjo: Quote navitavi: Quote NCSoapJunkie: Ok, am I missing something or is Steffy completely blowing out of context the events that happened in Italy? I never heard Liam tell her he wanted to leave Hope and start a life with her. Yes, he told Steffy that he loved her, but how does that translate to "I want to marry you again??" Someone please help! Okay, now I'm going to address your point without being mad at the soap for this crap they are feeding us. I do not know why Steffy would think that except he said it was a new beginning for them. The last time they had a "beginning," they got married within 24hrs, so....Maybe that's her assumption of a new beginning. But I do not know why she thinks she "had" him except for Bill's trickery. Had Bill not done what he did, Liam would never have been in his hotel room to have his baby tantrum that led to him appealing to Steffy. I wish I could explain all this rationally like I used to be able to with these plots, but Liam is not rational, therefore, I cannot fault Steffy or Hope for anything. Speaking of when did he commit to a life with Steffy--he did it when he married her, so it blows my mind completely that he thinks his "obligation" to marry Hope is stronger. Since when do you proclaim love for one woman, marry another within 24 hours of a break up with her, then when you get her back, you still love your wife, but you must divorce your wife to marry the first woman because you owe it to the first woman? I do not understand this logic. Well theres your problem in a nutshell...you are trying to imbue Liam with Logic! Stop that RIGHT THIS MINUTE!! You'll hurt your brain. To answer the question...Steffy was trying to explain Hopesactions and Liam said he didn't care what her reasons were...he was tired of the merry go round. Then when Hope explained, again Liam said that everything had changed. I think he really did want Steffy to come out of the bathroom and break Hopes heart...letting him off the hook. He wants Steffy but he doesn't want people thinking bad of him. He and Hope are suprisingly well matched. I also think he wants Hope. Basically Liam is a putz but he's Hopes putz so I want Steffy out. Let Liam deal with his issues, finally, without a safety net. Well said Izitjo. Now all Liam have to do is stay out of Steffy's face and out of her office. LOL that is too hard for a pea brain like liam 
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bigbbfan |
Could it be that Liam is such a creep that he doesn't care |
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navitavi |
Quote Izitjo: Quote navitavi: Quote Izitjo: Quote navitavi: Quote NCSoapJunkie: Ok, am I missing something or is Steffy completely blowing out of context the events that happened in Italy? I never heard Liam tell her he wanted to leave Hope and start a life with her. Yes, he told Steffy that he loved her, but how does that translate to "I want to marry you again??" Someone please help! Okay, now I'm going to address your point without being mad at the soap for this crap they are feeding us. I do not know why Steffy would think that except he said it was a new beginning for them. The last time they had a "beginning," they got married within 24hrs, so....Maybe that's her assumption of a new beginning. But I do not know why she thinks she "had" him except for Bill's trickery. Had Bill not done what he did, Liam would never have been in his hotel room to have his baby tantrum that led to him appealing to Steffy. I wish I could explain all this rationally like I used to be able to with these plots, but Liam is not rational, therefore, I cannot fault Steffy or Hope for anything. Speaking of when did he commit to a life with Steffy--he did it when he married her, so it blows my mind completely that he thinks his "obligation" to marry Hope is stronger. Since when do you proclaim love for one woman, marry another within 24 hours of a break up with her, then when you get her back, you still love your wife, but you must divorce your wife to marry the first woman because you owe it to the first woman? I do not understand this logic. Well theres your problem in a nutshell...you are trying to imbue Liam with Logic! Stop that RIGHT THIS MINUTE!! You'll hurt your brain. To answer the question...Steffy was trying to explain Hopesactions and Liam said he didn't care what her reasons were...he was tired of the merry go round. Then when Hope explained, again Liam said that everything had changed. I think he really did want Steffy to come out of the bathroom and break Hopes heart...letting him off the hook. He wants Steffy but he doesn't want people thinking bad of him. He and Hope are suprisingly well matched. I also think he wants Hope. Basically Liam is a putz but he's Hopes putz so I want Steffy out. Let Liam deal with his issues, finally, without a safety net. What you said is not logical, so that's how I know you must have figured Liam out. Excuse me but I never said Liam was logical..I just said how he behaves. Which is far from anything even remotely logical..and BTW what I said makes perfect sense in Logan land. You're the one trying to make his actions logical. I know what I said. You said my problem was applying logic to Liam. So when you explained your take on him, I was JOKING by saying it wasn't logical, which meant you'd figured him out. I was trying to JOKEbecause it seemed to me that you were stepping outside logic to explain him--since you're the one who said you can't use logic. Just a joke. That's it. Joke. |
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navitavi |
Quote bigbbfan: Could it be that Liam is such a creep that he doesn't care which one he is married to as long as he doesn't have to be the one to hurt the other lady? That way, he could keep stringing both of them along and possibly keep them both? If that is the case he is worse than I thought he was. Now, I can think of 1001 ways to kill Liam but they would be so horrible you might not be able to sleep after you read them. I really feel sorry for Steffy and Hope. It is beyond me why he would commit to a life with Steffy and five minutes later marry Hope. That is unforgiveable. Had I been Steffy, I probably would have come out of the bathroom and told Hope what was going on. Keeping quiet was not doing either one of them any favors. I guess she was doing what she thought was right but I'm not sure it was the right thing to do. Whoever said Liam was no prize was right. Heck no, it's not the right thing to do, and Liam told her as much when he dumped her for keeping things from him. And keeping the annulment papers thing a secret was wrong for her, too. So I do not understand why she thinks she should keep on keeping his secrets. She ought to know by now that the quickest way to get him back is to tell Hope the truth, let Hope run for the hills, and then be standing there in her Mrs. Havihsham dress with her chiming bells, and he'll marry her. |
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Izitjo |
Quote navitavi: Quote Izitjo: Quote navitavi: Quote NCSoapJunkie: I don't know navi...I saw it more as a rebound once again. Liam thought Hope dumped him, and Steffy was there. To me it seemed more like..."I'm lonely, and you're here again..so lets get out of here." At least this time he didn't slip an engagement ring on her finger. Really, any way you look at it, Liam is a loser and both of these ladies would be better off without him! I agree with every word you wrote. But I'm just saying Liam goes along with anything either woman says. It's truly maddening. I don't think this is the case...I would have if Liam hadn't still wanted to stop the wedding afte he discovered the truth. His words...everythng is changed. I took that to mean his feelings had crystalized about both women and he was leaning towards Steffy. He just didn't have the guts to take what he wanted because he couldn't hurt Hope. Steffy had to make the descision for him to marry Hope....Steffy could have just as easily made the decision for him to NOT marry Hope. When he said today..we both know what you did that brought into sharp relief Liams actual feelings about him, Hope, and Steffy. "Life is about how we honor the commitments we make"...I think he meant the original commitment to Hope. Thats the oblgation and thats why he married and good for him. Not good for Hope. I can't buy this. No one held a gun to Liam's head. He did not have to go through with the marriage. And "leaning toward" Steffy is NOT good enough. Why does he have the "guts" to hurt Steffy but not Hope? And if he meant what he said about honoring his commitments, then he would have honored his marriage commitment to Steffy. He had plenty of time to do that after he tore up the annulment papers. It's always been my experience that the person who knows the least is the person the man is actually trying to keep. Usually the second best woman knows EVERYTHING that's been going on, but the main love has no clue. Steffy had better wise up about keeping Liam's secrets, tell Hope the truth and let the chips fall where they may because Liam is no kind of prize. Because Steffy is strong and can handle being hurt. The last time Liam hurt Hope she lost her virginity and went on a downward spiral that could have ended badly there but for grace. As for Liams secrets..Steffy should wise up and stay out of it..thats Hopes husband and Hopes husband is responsible for telling his wife what her husband is up to. LOL, It's been my experiance that the one he's trying to keep knows everything, meanwhile the wife sits at home shocked when she finds out her husband is leaving her for another woman. I never saw it coming is the cuckolded wifes mantra most of the time. Now...IF Steffy were actually Liams mistress you might have had a point but they aren't in a relationship that Liam needs to hide...he could just as easily have told Hope he kissed Steffy and been done with it if it was so unimportant but his silence shouts. It strikes me funny watching him pine after the one that got away while his wife sits contented and clueless in her mothers house talking about how lucky she is. Too the last point..Liam does go along with whatever either woman says and this time BOTH women said marry Hope. Could he have not married her? Of course, but as you said, he goes along with whichever woman has his ear at the moment. Lucky Hope..they both told him to have Hope but it looks like hes regreting that decision already. |
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