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Why is Steffy so desperate?
Started by grandpadanucci at 2012/06/23 03:13PMLatest post: 2012/06/24 08:58PM, Views: 1882, Replies: 62
Yawnie |
Quote grandpadanucci: I have a difficult time trying to understand why Steffy knows that Liam is lying to Hope and still continues to be standing right next to him and everytime he throws a bone, she picks it up!! Forgive me for asking, but is this normal for a woman to act so desperate? In Liam's life, Hope has always been #1 and Steffy #2, so does this not bother her at all? No bashing please, just trying to understand a woman's desperation to want a man who is so wishy-washy! Steffy is desperate as she has had a great role model in her mother (the ummm-uh doctor?). The fight for a man between the Logans and the other two women (Taylor ? & Steffy Marone) is a story that is getting really tired. Her desperation is only fueled by her mother's & grandmother's insistance that she not give up on the man she loves. As a psychiatrist? (not a very good one or a very busy one) she should be helping her daughter to look elsewhere, especially considering her past with Ridge & Brooke (who had Ridge first because his first wife Caroline picked Brooke for him). It took Taylor many hears to come to terms with this and sometimes it seems she has, at other times it's like she's still holding out for him. Insecurities run deep in this family in a big way, even with Thomas who doesn's want to lose to Rick. Like I said before, they have a great role model! |
IngaOlaf |
[quote]Quote IngaOlaf: [quote]Quote Jacee Wojo: [quote]Quote saclean: I don't think Steffy is as desperate, as Liam is stringing both these girls along. Liam makes her believe that she is the one, that there is hope down the road. Liam is not decisive and he never severs the ties. I think he makes her believe that he truly loves her and gives her enough encouragement, that she thinks that there is possibilities. It may be that Liam does love two women, and each of them satisfy him for different reasons. That is no way a reason to stay in a relationship. He seems to have control over them, emotionally. She needs to step back and get her confidence....he'll never be the man that she wants...he'll never be satisfied with one woman.[/quote] |
SisSchaffer |
[quote]Quote grandpadanucci: I have a difficult time trying to understand why Steffy knows that Liam is lying to Hope and still continues to be standing right next to him and everytime he throws a bone, she picks it up!! Forgive me for asking, but is this normal for a woman to act so desperate? In Liam's life, Hope has always been #1 and Steffy #2, so does this not bother her at all? No bashing please, just trying to understand a woman's desperation to want a man who is so wishy-washy![/quote I am a recent B&B watcher,(thanks to my sister-in-law) & from my observation, Steffy is not a stray dog looking for a bone. Nor is she desperate, she just happens to be in "LOVE with LOVE" from my point of view. She not only beieves the words that come from Liam's mouth but, I believe he does too!! |
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IngaOlaf |
[quote]Quote SisSchaffer: [quote]Quote grandpadanucci: I have a difficult time trying to understand why Steffy knows that Liam is lying to Hope and still continues to be standing right next to him and everytime he throws a bone, she picks it up!! Forgive me for asking, but is this normal for a woman to act so desperate? In Liam's life, Hope has always been #1 and Steffy #2, so does this not bother her at all? No bashing please, just trying to understand a woman's desperation to want a man who is so wishy-washy![/quote I am a recent B&B watcher,(thanks to my sister-in-law) & from my observation, Steffy is not a stray dog looking for a bone. Nor is she desperate, she just happens to be in "LOVE with LOVE" from my point of view. She not only beieves the words that come from Liam's mouth but, I believe he does too!! |
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SisSchaffer |
[quote]Quote SisSchaffer: [quote]Quote grandpadanucci: I have a difficult time trying to understand why Steffy knows that Liam is lying to Hope and still continues to be standing right next to him and everytime he throws a bone, she picks it up!! Forgive me for asking, but is this normal for a woman to act so desperate? In Liam's life, Hope has always been #1 and Steffy #2, so does this not bother her at all? No bashing please, just trying to understand a woman's desperation to want a man who is so wishy-washy![/quote I am a recent B&B watcher,(thanks to my sister-in-law) & from my observation, Steffy is not a stray dog looking for a bone. Nor is she desperate, she just happens to be in "LOVE with LOVE" from my point of view. She not only beieves the words that come from Liam's mouth but, I believe he does too!! |
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SisSchaffer |
[quote]Quote IngaOlaf: [quote]Quote SisSchaffer: [quote]Quote grandpadanucci: I have a difficult time trying to understand why Steffy knows that Liam is lying to Hope and still continues to be standing right next to him and everytime he throws a bone, she picks it up!! Forgive me for asking, but is this normal for a woman to act so desperate? In Liam's life, Hope has always been #1 and Steffy #2, so does this not bother her at all? No bashing please, just trying to understand a woman's desperation to want a man who is so wishy-washy |
Quote Jacee Wojo: Quote saclean: I don't think Steffy is as desperate, as Liam is stringing both these girls along. Liam makes her believe that she is the one, that there is hope down the road. Liam is not decisive and he never severs the ties. I think he makes her believe that he truly loves her and gives her enough encouragement, that she thinks that there is possibilities. It may be that Liam does love two women, and each of them satisfy him for different reasons. That is no way a reason to stay in a relationship. He seems to have control over them, emotionally. She needs to step back and get her confidence....he'll never be the man that she wants...he'll never be satisfied with one woman. Steffy did have confidence before Liam came along. She is not the strong woman that she was. Liam has kept a lot from Hope, but Steffy is fully aware of Liam and how many times he has let her down and caused her a great deal of pain. I hope she regains her self confidence back and would like both woman to move on. She has appeared desperate and I can't understand the reason for it. When the clock ran out she should have stuck by her decision and not listened to Bill. At that point she felt Liam loved Hope and wanted to marry her so why she would go just to possibly pick up the pieces. Even if Liam loves the both of them I would think she would want the love of a man that only loved her and her alone. Sometimes I wonder if it is because of her growing uo in a family where her dad loved two woman at differen't times that it is normal for her. That's a good possibility, that she feels that this is normal relationship behavior. I also think she got caught up in Liam, initially, because of her feelings for Bill. I think it changed, but maybe not. Maybe Steffy doesn't see it yet. I wish whether she is pregnant or not, that she does get her confidence back, and move on. I want her to have clarity of what kind of guy Liam is....and to realize that he isn't the guy for her. Hope is in the dark on a lot of the things that have happened, and for her to grow and mature, she needs to know what Liam has been up to....if she chooses to hang on to him, at least it will be all out in the open and she isn't going into the marriage blindly. I think though, this is what will happen, and she'll find out afterwards. |
annie71 |
Quote SisSchaffer: Quote Boatchick22: Quote grandpadanucci: Quote Boatchick22: Quote grandpadanucci: Quote fortaylor: Forgive me GD, but did I not read sometime ago in a post of yours all the books you have read on understanding the female mind or am I incorrect?  If I am then what is the point of your thread may I ask with all due respect?  I don't recall a post about reading and understanding the "female" mind, perhaps, the human mind in general, but again, psychology is not my forte and would like to have the opinions of females as to whether there is normalcy in this type of behavior. FT, no offence to you, but this is a MB and one should be able to share thoughts and debates on different subjects relative to the show, so why the questioning? Is it possible that anything negative about Steffy warrants questioning? I sincerely hope not! The question itself is insulting. What exactly are you implying ? Are all men weak and pathetic like Liam? Is that normal behavior in men? Essentially it is an passive aggressive jab at women. Aren't you married? If so, then you should already know the answer. Now about the character. I believe people do crazy things when they are in love. There is nothing desperate about having hope and faith in someone you love. She is trying to see this through to the end. Just as Hope, when she was stealing kisses from Liam, lost her virginity to liam, while he was sill married to Steffy. Forgive the hysterics, but I had to laugh at your post boatchick since being a male, this has nothing to do with gender, but since you brought it up, I could write a book on the the number of insults thrown at Liam by the majority of females on the MB! Yes, he is wrong, but for you to throw it back at me saying that this question in insulting is ludicrous with all due respect to you. @Aces, thank you for responding without being offended. The way to go! Additionally, you are so right, neither male nor female gender understands each other; hence, the questioning is educational, warranted and debatable. Good post! Thank you to all the posts who responded without taking this thread as an offence and your insight is amazing! Watchdog, Fata, jcyl, Inga, lunch, mollyt, among others...good posts! Your reasoning makes sense in many ways. Gp, 1) your question from your original quote "Forgive me for asking, but is this normal for a woman to act so desperate? 2) your second response "I don't recall a post about reading and understanding the "female" mind, perhaps, the human mind in general, but again, psychology is not my forte and would like to have the opinions of females as to whether there is normalcy in this type of behavior?" Your asking if this is "normal behavior" because you psychology is not your forte. Your are making a generalized statement regarding women. Now if you had asked if this is normal behavior for steffy or the woman on the show, that would be different because you would have been referring to a select few specifically. Also, I am aware of your gender, as I implied that since you are married, you would know the answer to your own question, I believe you are married to a woman. So, yes , you question regarding "normal behavior" was insulting. You made reference to the female mind, hence making it gender related. Read your own quote, because really, I find it funny how you don't realize the implications of your own quote. ITA.... I also want to add, that there is nothing that ANYONE can do to you that you do not ALLOW them to do!!! Both Hope and Steffy need to re-evaluate their situations and decide what will make them happy. Liam on the other hand, needs to MAN-UP & take a page from his fathers journal and BECOME one!! Yes I agree he needs to man-up but please not be like his father. |
FataMorgana |
Quote Yawnie: Quote grandpadanucci: I have a difficult time trying to understand why Steffy knows that Liam is lying to Hope and still continues to be standing right next to him and everytime he throws a bone, she picks it up!! Forgive me for asking, but is this normal for a woman to act so desperate? In Liam's life, Hope has always been #1 and Steffy #2, so does this not bother her at all? No bashing please, just trying to understand a woman's desperation to want a man who is so wishy-washy! Steffy is desperate as she has had a great role model in her mother (the ummm-uh doctor?). The fight for a man between the Logans and the other two women (Taylor ? & Steffy Marone) is a story that is getting really tired. Her desperation is only fueled by her mother's & grandmother's insistance that she not give up on the man she loves. As a psychiatrist? (not a very good one or a very busy one) she should be helping her daughter to look elsewhere, especially considering her past with Ridge & Brooke (who had Ridge first because his first wife Caroline picked Brooke for him). It took Taylor many hears to come to terms with this and sometimes it seems she has, at other times it's like she's still holding out for him. Insecurities run deep in this family in a big way, even with Thomas who doesn's want to lose to Rick. Like I said before, they have a great role model! The thing is, even now with Liam, that Steffy is dealing with emotionally weak men. Most of them on this show are. Steffy might her adventure with Liam some times soon, but i think that's it! Just like with all the other men she tried to seduce. But yeah she got that flaw from a certain person.. |
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dani9564 |
I think the ultimate act of desperation on a womans part would be to give up your virginity and move in with a married man when that goes against all values and morals you hold dear just to hang on to a man. JMHO |
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