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    Why is Steffy so desperate?

    Started by grandpadanucci at 2012/06/23 03:13PM
    Latest post: 2012/06/24 08:58PM, Views: 1883, Replies: 62
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    #21   2012/06/23 06:12PM
    Re: Why is Steffy so desperate?
    watchdog
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    Quote FataMorgana:
    Quote grandpadanucci: I have a difficult time trying to understand why Steffy knows that Liam is lying to Hope and still continues to be standing right next to him and everytime he throws a bone, she picks it up!! Forgive me for asking, but is this normal for a woman to act so desperate? In Liam's life, Hope has always been #1 and Steffy #2, so does this not bother her at all? No bashing please, just trying to understand a woman's desperation to want a man who is so wishy-washy!


    At this point Liam doesn't respect both either. Even if Steffy is pregnant or not, Liam's mairrage to Hope will be short because of his secrets. Hope would also be desperate if she took him back.


    ITA. As GP stated a man that is so wishy-washy, neither girl should want him. He moved on to Steffy after Hope dump him, He moved from Steffy to Hope after he found out about her Manipulations, He moved on again with Steffy on his wedding day with Steffy, moved from Steffy again to marry Hope. Marriage is difficult without lies, deceptions and no time between one to another without stepping back assessing the situation at hand. I just wish Bell woulg move on. Liam the man seems to be the desperate one, he wants one in his bed and the other one hanging around in just case.

    #22   2012/06/23 06:32PM
    Re: Why is Steffy so desperate?
    mollyt
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    Quote jcyl:
    Quote LunchtimeListner: I think it has to do with wanting love and approval. She always lost her twin, so she feels she is missing something in her life. I think she wants to get married, so it will fill the void, of the absent father, and the loss of her twin.


    I tend to agree, as Steffy should not be so needy and desperate. Any beautiful, accomplished, smart, woman I know and have known would have kicked Liam to the curb a long time ago. Steffy should be one of those women.......

    I felt a little bad for Steffy in the bathroom, as that was defining moment........Liam had the opportunity to tell Hope that he was in love with her, but clearly still very much in love with Steffy......he knew Steffy was listening and he did not .....Some say he tried, but typical Liam, he lets everyone make his tough decisions......lol, except the one person who wants to, his dad......

    To me, whatever Steffy does after this second opportunity that Liam had to end things with Hope and stay with her, is key. Of course, in CA there is that 3rd Strike Law, so I suppose Liam will get another chance to dump her and break her heart.....

    When will Steffy learn that seemingly, Liam always turns to her when Hope breaks his heart, and so far, he always goes back.......please Steffy, get a clue, this bozo is not worth the effort......


    Excellent post, I couldn't have said it better.

    #23   2012/06/23 06:42PM
    Re: Why is Steffy so desperate?
    jcyl
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    Quote mollyt:
    Quote jcyl:
    Quote LunchtimeListner: I think it has to do with wanting love and approval. She always lost her twin, so she feels she is missing something in her life. I think she wants to get married, so it will fill the void, of the absent father, and the loss of her twin.


    I tend to agree, as Steffy should not be so needy and desperate. Any beautiful, accomplished, smart, woman I know and have known would have kicked Liam to the curb a long time ago. Steffy should be one of those women.......

    I felt a little bad for Steffy in the bathroom, as that was defining moment........Liam had the opportunity to tell Hope that he was in love with her, but clearly still very much in love with Steffy......he knew Steffy was listening and he did not .....Some say he tried, but typical Liam, he lets everyone make his tough decisions......lol, except the one person who wants to, his dad......

    To me, whatever Steffy does after this second opportunity that Liam had to end things with Hope and stay with her, is key. Of course, in CA there is that 3rd Strike Law, so I suppose Liam will get another chance to dump her and break her heart.....

    When will Steffy learn that seemingly, Liam always turns to her when Hope breaks his heart, and so far, he always goes back.......please Steffy, get a clue, this bozo is not worth the effort......


    Excellent post, I couldn't have said it better.


    #24   2012/06/23 07:26PM
    Re: Why is Steffy so desperate?
    watchdog
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    Quote jcyl:
    Quote mollyt:
    Quote jcyl:
    Quote LunchtimeListner: I think it has to do with wanting love and approval. She always lost her twin, so she feels she is missing something in her life. I think she wants to get married, so it will fill the void, of the absent father, and the loss of her twin.


    I tend to agree, as Steffy should not be so needy and desperate. Any beautiful, accomplished, smart, woman I know and have known would have kicked Liam to the curb a long time ago. Steffy should be one of those women.......

    I felt a little bad for Steffy in the bathroom, as that was defining moment........Liam had the opportunity to tell Hope that he was in love with her, but clearly still very much in love with Steffy......he knew Steffy was listening and he did not .....Some say he tried, but typical Liam, he lets everyone make his tough decisions......lol, except the one person who wants to, his dad......

    To me, whatever Steffy does after this second opportunity that Liam had to end things with Hope and stay with her, is key. Of course, in CA there is that 3rd Strike Law, so I suppose Liam will get another chance to dump her and break her heart.....

    When will Steffy learn that seemingly, Liam always turns to her when Hope breaks his heart, and so far, he always goes back.......please Steffy, get a clue, this bozo is not worth the effort......


    Excellent post, I couldn't have said it better.




    Great post. Both Steffy/Hope need to buy a vowel and get a clue. Liam not only wants his cake and eat too, he's'keeping recipe a secret from them both. Either way the wind blows he's happy with one or the other. the one he's with not so happy.

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    #25   2012/06/23 07:33PM
    Re: Why is Steffy so desperate?
    jcyl
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    Quote watchdog:
    Quote jcyl:
    Quote mollyt:
    Quote jcyl:
    Quote LunchtimeListner: I think it has to do with wanting love and approval. She always lost her twin, so she feels she is missing something in her life. I think she wants to get married, so it will fill the void, of the absent father, and the loss of her twin.


    I tend to agree, as Steffy should not be so needy and desperate. Any beautiful, accomplished, smart, woman I know and have known would have kicked Liam to the curb a long time ago. Steffy should be one of those women.......

    I felt a little bad for Steffy in the bathroom, as that was defining moment........Liam had the opportunity to tell Hope that he was in love with her, but clearly still very much in love with Steffy......he knew Steffy was listening and he did not .....Some say he tried, but typical Liam, he lets everyone make his tough decisions......lol, except the one person who wants to, his dad......

    To me, whatever Steffy does after this second opportunity that Liam had to end things with Hope and stay with her, is key. Of course, in CA there is that 3rd Strike Law, so I suppose Liam will get another chance to dump her and break her heart.....

    When will Steffy learn that seemingly, Liam always turns to her when Hope breaks his heart, and so far, he always goes back.......please Steffy, get a clue, this bozo is not worth the effort......


    Excellent post, I couldn't have said it better.




    Great post. Both Steffy/Hope need to buy a vowel and get a clue. Liam not only wants his cake and eat too, he's'keeping recipe a secret from them both. Either way the wind blows he's happy with one or the other. the one he's with not so happy.


    I will add also that I think the reason that Liam didn't want to go back to the church to get married was due to his "cheatin heart".........

    #26   2012/06/23 07:36PM
    Re: Why is Steffy so desperate?
    grandpadanucci
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    Quote Boatchick22:
    Quote grandpadanucci:
    Quote fortaylor: Forgive me GD, but did I not read sometime ago in a post of yours all the books you have read on understanding the female mind or am I incorrect? If I am then what is the point of your thread may I ask with all due respect?




    I don't recall a post about reading and understanding the "female" mind, perhaps, the human mind in general, but again, psychology is not my forte and would like to have the opinions of females as to whether there is normalcy in this type of behavior. FT, no offence to you, but this is a MB and one should be able to share thoughts and debates on different subjects relative to the show, so why the questioning? Is it possible that anything negative about Steffy warrants questioning? I sincerely hope not!


    The question itself is insulting. What exactly are you implying ? Are all men weak and pathetic like Liam? Is that normal behavior in men? Essentially it is an passive aggressive jab at women. Aren't you married? If so, then you should already know the answer.

    Now about the character. I believe people do crazy things when they are in love. There is nothing desperate about having hope and faith in someone you love. She is trying to see this through to the end. Just as Hope, when she was stealing kisses from Liam, lost her virginity to liam, while he was sill married to Steffy.




    Forgive the hysterics, but I had to laugh at your post boatchick since being a male, this has nothing to do with gender, but since you brought it up, I could write a book on the the number of insults thrown at Liam by the majority of females on the MB! Yes, he is wrong, but for you to throw it back at me saying that this question in insulting is ludicrous with all due respect to you.

    @Aces, thank you for responding without being offended. The way to go! Additionally, you are so right, neither male nor female gender understands each other; hence, the questioning is educational, warranted and debatable. Good post!

    Thank you to all the posts who responded without taking this thread as an offence and your insight is amazing! Watchdog, Fata, jcyl, Inga, lunch, mollyt, among others...good posts! Your reasoning makes sense in many ways.

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    #27   2012/06/23 07:55PM
    Re: Why is Steffy so desperate?
    BoldMama
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    Quote grandpadanucci: I have a difficult time trying to understand why Steffy knows that Liam is lying to Hope and still continues to be standing right next to him and everytime he throws a bone, she picks it up!! Forgive me for asking, but is this normal for a woman to act so desperate? In Liam's life, Hope has always been #1 and Steffy #2, so does this not bother her at all? No bashing please, just trying to understand a woman's desperation to want a man who is so wishy-washy!


    GD...in Steffy's case it's in her DNA!!! Her mother has spent her adult life being 2nd choice to Brooke and history is repeating itself with her.

    #28   2012/06/23 08:07PM
    Re: Why is Steffy so desperate?
    grandpadanucci
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    Quote Houston777:
    Quote grandpadanucci: I have a difficult time trying to understand why Steffy knows that Liam is lying to Hope and still continues to be standing right next to him and everytime he throws a bone, she picks it up!! Forgive me for asking, but is this normal for a woman to act so desperate? In Liam's life, Hope has always been #1 and Steffy #2, so does this not bother her at all? No bashing please, just trying to understand a woman's desperation to want a man who is so wishy-washy!


    With all due respect, I think your statement Hope is # 1 and Steffy # 2 is about to change big time. And you almost make it sound unless a woman loves according to your rules that she is "desperate", NOT.




    Houston, Hope is #1 as Liam makes decisions based on hers and solely hers. He picks Steffy as #2 only when Hope declines! BTW, I don't have any rules and that's why I am questioning the desperation that Steffy possesses!

    #29   2012/06/23 08:37PM
    Re: Why is Steffy so desperate?
    Boatchick22
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    Quote grandpadanucci:
    Quote Boatchick22:
    Quote grandpadanucci:
    Quote fortaylor: Forgive me GD, but did I not read sometime ago in a post of yours all the books you have read on understanding the female mind or am I incorrect? If I am then what is the point of your thread may I ask with all due respect?




    I don't recall a post about reading and understanding the "female" mind, perhaps, the human mind in general, but again, psychology is not my forte and would like to have the opinions of females as to whether there is normalcy in this type of behavior. FT, no offence to you, but this is a MB and one should be able to share thoughts and debates on different subjects relative to the show, so why the questioning? Is it possible that anything negative about Steffy warrants questioning? I sincerely hope not!


    The question itself is insulting. What exactly are you implying ? Are all men weak and pathetic like Liam? Is that normal behavior in men? Essentially it is an passive aggressive jab at women. Aren't you married? If so, then you should already know the answer.

    Now about the character. I believe people do crazy things when they are in love. There is nothing desperate about having hope and faith in someone you love. She is trying to see this through to the end. Just as Hope, when she was stealing kisses from Liam, lost her virginity to liam, while he was sill married to Steffy.




    Forgive the hysterics, but I had to laugh at your post boatchick since being a male, this has nothing to do with gender, but since you brought it up, I could write a book on the the number of insults thrown at Liam by the majority of females on the MB! Yes, he is wrong, but for you to throw it back at me saying that this question in insulting is ludicrous with all due respect to you.

    @Aces, thank you for responding without being offended. The way to go! Additionally, you are so right, neither male nor female gender understands each other; hence, the questioning is educational, warranted and debatable. Good post!

    Thank you to all the posts who responded without taking this thread as an offence and your insight is amazing! Watchdog, Fata, jcyl, Inga, lunch, mollyt, among others...good posts! Your reasoning makes sense in many ways.



    Gp,
    1) your question from your original quote "Forgive me for asking, but is this normal for a woman to act so desperate?
    2) your second response "I don't recall a post about reading and understanding the "female" mind, perhaps, the human mind in general, but again, psychology is not my forte and would like to have the opinions of females as to whether there is normalcy in this type of behavior?"

    Your asking if this is "normal behavior" because you psychology is not your forte. Your are making a generalized statement regarding women.
    Now if you had asked if this is normal behavior for steffy or the woman on the show, that would be different because you would have been referring to a select few specifically.

    Also, I am aware of your gender, as I implied that since you are married, you would know the answer to your own question, I believe you are married to a woman.

    So, yes , you question regarding "normal behavior" was insulting. You made reference to the female mind, hence making it gender related.

    Read your own quote, because really, I find it funny how you don't realize the implications of your own quote.

    #30   2012/06/23 08:40PM
    Re: Why is Steffy so desperate?
    grandpadanucci
    image

    Quote Boatchick22:
    Quote grandpadanucci:
    Quote Boatchick22:
    Quote grandpadanucci:
    Quote fortaylor: Forgive me GD, but did I not read sometime ago in a post of yours all the books you have read on understanding the female mind or am I incorrect? If I am then what is the point of your thread may I ask with all due respect?




    I don't recall a post about reading and understanding the "female" mind, perhaps, the human mind in general, but again, psychology is not my forte and would like to have the opinions of females as to whether there is normalcy in this type of behavior. FT, no offence to you, but this is a MB and one should be able to share thoughts and debates on different subjects relative to the show, so why the questioning? Is it possible that anything negative about Steffy warrants questioning? I sincerely hope not!


    The question itself is insulting. What exactly are you implying ? Are all men weak and pathetic like Liam? Is that normal behavior in men? Essentially it is an passive aggressive jab at women. Aren't you married? If so, then you should already know the answer.

    Now about the character. I believe people do crazy things when they are in love. There is nothing desperate about having hope and faith in someone you love. She is trying to see this through to the end. Just as Hope, when she was stealing kisses from Liam, lost her virginity to liam, while he was sill married to Steffy.




    Forgive the hysterics, but I had to laugh at your post boatchick since being a male, this has nothing to do with gender, but since you brought it up, I could write a book on the the number of insults thrown at Liam by the majority of females on the MB! Yes, he is wrong, but for you to throw it back at me saying that this question in insulting is ludicrous with all due respect to you.

    @Aces, thank you for responding without being offended. The way to go! Additionally, you are so right, neither male nor female gender understands each other; hence, the questioning is educational, warranted and debatable. Good post!

    Thank you to all the posts who responded without taking this thread as an offence and your insight is amazing! Watchdog, Fata, jcyl, Inga, lunch, mollyt, among others...good posts! Your reasoning makes sense in many ways.



    Gp,
    1) your question from your original quote "Forgive me for asking, but is this normal for a woman to act so desperate?
    2) your second response "I don't recall a post about reading and understanding the "female" mind, perhaps, the human mind in general, but again, psychology is not my forte and would like to have the opinions of females as to whether there is normalcy in this type of behavior?"

    Your asking if this is "normal behavior" because you psychology is not your forte. Your are making a generalized statement regarding women.
    Now if you had asked if this is normal behavior for steffy or the woman on the show, that would be different because you would have been referring to a select few specifically.

    Also, I am aware of your gender, as I implied that since you are married, you would know the answer to your own question, I believe you are married to a woman.

    So, yes , you question regarding "normal behavior" was insulting. You made reference to the female mind, hence making it gender related.

    Read your own quote, because really, I find it funny how you don't realize the implications of your own quote.




    I fail to see any implications at all and mostly everyone on this thread understand what I meant relative to Steffy's behavior and have not taken it personally. If you feel this is offensive, then I would respectfully ask that you decline from debating. Thank you and happy posting!

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