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Hope Is Not Holding A Gun To Liams Head !!!
Started by Nauntieann at 2012/06/22 09:11PMLatest post: 2012/06/25 06:21PM, Views: 2291, Replies: 75
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Quote BrianRose: Quote Nauntieann: Ok Yall say that Liam Loves Steffy .If he really does love Steffy then Hope is not holding a gun to his head. He does not have to marry her. Why dont he just leave with Steffy then. All he has to do is say Steffy No I love You and I want Marry her. I want to marry you instead .I sure hope that Hope does not get hurt but I am sure that Steffy will trick him into choosing her again because of the Baby. Hope will not make Steffy wait for 6 months I am sure . If Liam says he wants Steffy she will let him have her. When they married before she told Liam to stay with her. When she thought that Steffy was real sick she told Liam to stand by Steffy .Liam came to Hope on the Roof not the other way around. Brooke was there and Told Liam not to hurt Hope again unless he was sure. He chose Hope Not the other way around. She gave him space and time to think .He asked her to leave so he could talk to Steffy and she left .She was on the Roof and he came to her. Liam asked Steffy for a Divorce that he wanted Hope and she made him wait. Hope does not know about Steffy .She did not want Liam to think that she left him at the alter.If he had any since he would have known that she would not leave him. He is so stupid. Hope loved him enough to give up her beliefs and ruin her reputation.How does he repay her ,He is so Stupid maybe Steffy does deserve him . I am beginning to think That Liam does not deserve neither Girl . Nauntieann, this is a great post. The only thing I disagree with is the last sentence, "I am beginning to think that Liam does not deserve neither Girl". My opinion on that is he deserves Steffy. My opinion is that Steffy really dont deserve him she deserves someone new. And yall are right Steffy did not hold a gun to his head either.But If someone truly loves someone he is not gonna let them go No matter how much the other is talking. If he truly loved Steffy he would leave with her and the Gutless person that he is could leave Hope standing or like yall said speak up during the wedding when they give him a Chance.When he married Steffy I said that he should have waited and let it be awhile instead of purposing so soon .If Steffy had any sense she would have made him wait .She should have known that he was on the Rebound .I would Not have said yes and I would have insisted on my own Ring and not Hopes.She should have let Hope get to him in Aspen because he was on the Mountain waiting for her . If she was not so much Bills Puppet she would have wanted to know what Liam truly wanted herself instead of Locking Hope in the Gondula.I would not have wanted to marry him unless I truly knew that I was the one that he wanted . She should have gotten him there with Hope and let him decide between them with Both Of Them there.If he had Chose Steffy then I truly believe that Hope would have let him go. Hope was willing to accept the Marriage but Liam kept going to her . He should have chosen Steffy when he had a Chance.Instead he went up on the Rooftop a second time and Chose Hope. No-one should trick anyone.She knew That Hope was in Aspen she should have let Hope get to him and decide then and there and excepted his choice. Like she should have with the Annulment .He made his choice she should have let him go. I really dont think that either girl is after his Money they Dont need it .They are both Smart and Intelligent and have their own careers. I think that Both of Them love Liam . I wasnt really Putting Steffy down I am just saying that she should have wanted to know his choice and feelings from the beginning instead of having to live her Marriage in fear Of Him leaving her. If she let Hope get to him and he chose her ,Then she truly would have known that he loved and wanted her.No One is a winner here except Liam. |
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Quote SoapToNut: Quote trinney73: Quote IngaOlaf: Quote Nauntieann: Ok Yall say that Liam Loves Steffy .If he really does love Steffy then Hope is not holding a gun to his head. He does not have to marry her. Why dont he just leave with Steffy then. All he has to do is say Steffy No I love You and I want Marry her. I want to marry you instead .I sure hope that Hope does not get hurt but I am sure that Steffy will trick him into choosing her again because of the Baby. Hope will not make Steffy wait for 6 months I am sure . If Liam says he wants Steffy she will let him have her. When they married before she told Liam to stay with her. When she thought that Steffy was real sick she told Liam to stand by Steffy .Liam came to Hope on the Roof not the other way around. Brooke was there and Told Liam not to hurt Hope again unless he was sure. He chose Hope Not the other way around. She gave him space and time to think .He asked her to leave so he could talk to Steffy and she left .She was on the Roof and he came to her. Liam asked Steffy for a Divorce that he wanted Hope and she made him wait. Hope does not know about Steffy .She did not want Liam to think that she left him at the alter.If he had any since he would have known that she would not leave him. He is so stupid. Hope loved him enough to give up her beliefs and ruin her reputation.How does he repay her ,He is so Stupid maybe Steffy does deserve him . I am beginning to think That Liam does not deserve neither Girl . Good luck with your thread...IMO you are speaking good sense for both girls. And ITA... As much folderol as there has been about what a great conquest Liam would make, I am just not buying it... He is no stud, he is no steed, he is more like a gelding in a pawpaw patch...  Daddy $ seems to drive Liam's libido, as well as Liam's spouting off about how Steffy and/or Hope are to blame for their mis-steps, and how he cannot somehow forgive them... Then Liam somehow finds his voice... Otherwise, like today, when he REALLY needed to say something to Hope, his mouth opened and nothing came out... This guy is still playing the odds....I don't think that he cares which girl he ends up with---just as long as he doesn't have to make the decision... RIGHT NOW!!!   On the contrary! Liam opened his mouth today and said PLENTY! He told Hope he did not feel the same about her, he told Hope things were NOT the same, and he told Hope he couldn't go through with marrying her. Hope did not listen she was too busy pleading with him to marry her anyway and too busy gushing about herself. BTW, He said all of it after he found out she didn't write the note to him.  I second that, Trinney73! Hope never has listened to what Liam says. She just charges ahead with her fairy tale, I don't believe he ever said he didn't want to marry her. He said that everything has changed since he found the note and that he didn't know what he was thinking. He said, that he thought she didn't love him anymore. (NOTE: it is always about Hope first, then Steffy comes in second when Hope is unavailable). There were plenty of opportunities for Liam to tell Hope he can't marry her, but he didn't! Liam is not a man enough to say what's on his mind and the same thing happens when Steffy talks to him and assures him that she is the woman for him. He shuts up and says nothing! All along it has been Hope first and then if she isn't available, Steffy comes next. That's the story we are all watching....nothing has changed. |
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Quote grandpadanucci: Quote SoapToNut: Quote trinney73: Quote IngaOlaf: Quote Nauntieann: Ok Yall say that Liam Loves Steffy .If he really does love Steffy then Hope is not holding a gun to his head. He does not have to marry her. Why dont he just leave with Steffy then. All he has to do is say Steffy No I love You and I want Marry her. I want to marry you instead .I sure hope that Hope does not get hurt but I am sure that Steffy will trick him into choosing her again because of the Baby. Hope will not make Steffy wait for 6 months I am sure . If Liam says he wants Steffy she will let him have her. When they married before she told Liam to stay with her. When she thought that Steffy was real sick she told Liam to stand by Steffy .Liam came to Hope on the Roof not the other way around. Brooke was there and Told Liam not to hurt Hope again unless he was sure. He chose Hope Not the other way around. She gave him space and time to think .He asked her to leave so he could talk to Steffy and she left .She was on the Roof and he came to her. Liam asked Steffy for a Divorce that he wanted Hope and she made him wait. Hope does not know about Steffy .She did not want Liam to think that she left him at the alter.If he had any since he would have known that she would not leave him. He is so stupid. Hope loved him enough to give up her beliefs and ruin her reputation.How does he repay her ,He is so Stupid maybe Steffy does deserve him . I am beginning to think That Liam does not deserve neither Girl . Good luck with your thread...IMO you are speaking good sense for both girls. And ITA... As much folderol as there has been about what a great conquest Liam would make, I am just not buying it... He is no stud, he is no steed, he is more like a gelding in a pawpaw patch... Daddy $ seems to drive Liam's libido, as well as Liam's spouting off about how Steffy and/or Hope are to blame for their mis-steps, and how he cannot somehow forgive them... Then Liam somehow finds his voice... Otherwise, like today, when he REALLY needed to say something to Hope, his mouth opened and nothing came out... This guy is still playing the odds....I don't think that he cares which girl he ends up with---just as long as he doesn't have to make the decision... RIGHT NOW!!! On the contrary! Liam opened his mouth today and said PLENTY! He told Hope he did not feel the same about her, he told Hope things were NOT the same, and he told Hope he couldn't go through with marrying her. Hope did not listen she was too busy pleading with him to marry her anyway and too busy gushing about herself. BTW, He said all of it after he found out she didn't write the note to him. I second that, Trinney73! Hope never has listened to what Liam says. She just charges ahead with her fairy tale, I don't believe he ever said he didn't want to marry her. He said that everything has changed since he found the note and that he didn't know what he was thinking. He said, that he thought she didn't love him anymore. (NOTE: it is always about Hope first, then Steffy comes in second when Hope is unavailable). There were plenty of opportunities for Liam to tell Hope he can't marry her, but he didn't! Liam is not a man enough to say what's on his mind and the same thing happens when Steffy talks to him and assures him that she is the woman for him. He shuts up and says nothing! All along it has been Hope first and then if she isn't available, Steffy comes next. That's the story we are all watching....nothing has changed. Exactly If he did not want to marry Hope then he would not. Hope was his 1st Choice. Steffy should have let him choose when she had the Chance instead she chose for him. If he had wanted her he would not have let her go no matter what kind of Commitment he had to Hope. Hope knew that Liam was with Steffy that Night of their last Night as Man and Wife and did she try to go and interfere no she let them have their time as she did the day he told Steffy that he chose Hope over her..But did Steffy let him go. No who would not listen then .He asked her for a divorce ,He had 6 months as she wanted to change his mind but did he NOOO. He should have told Hope No we want sleep together I love you and I dont want to hurt your reputation lets wait But did he No he went on and let her do it .Liam does not know what Love is he is using them both .He had plenty of time in those 6 months to choose Steffy but he did not. He was the One that Took Hope to Aspen she did not beg him to take her. She did not need her Father In Law to set up anything for her. Yes she has help from Her Mother .What daughter doesnt want her Moms help with her Wedding . I am sure if Steffy had had a real wedding that Taylor would have helped. I was rooting for Both girls at one time .One time I thought he should Just stay with Steffy until she started all of it all over again with Thomas and Hope and trying to keep Liam from Knowing that they was there in the same place that they was. She couldnt have a good time with Liam for trying to hurt Hope again. like I said he had every opportunity in the world to Choose Steffy but did not. He has always chosen Hope. |
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Quote Nauntieann: Quote grandpadanucci: Quote SoapToNut: Quote trinney73: Quote IngaOlaf: Quote Nauntieann: Ok Yall say that Liam Loves Steffy .If he really does love Steffy then Hope is not holding a gun to his head. He does not have to marry her. Why dont he just leave with Steffy then. All he has to do is say Steffy No I love You and I want Marry her. I want to marry you instead .I sure hope that Hope does not get hurt but I am sure that Steffy will trick him into choosing her again because of the Baby. Hope will not make Steffy wait for 6 months I am sure . If Liam says he wants Steffy she will let him have her. When they married before she told Liam to stay with her. When she thought that Steffy was real sick she told Liam to stand by Steffy .Liam came to Hope on the Roof not the other way around. Brooke was there and Told Liam not to hurt Hope again unless he was sure. He chose Hope Not the other way around. She gave him space and time to think .He asked her to leave so he could talk to Steffy and she left .She was on the Roof and he came to her. Liam asked Steffy for a Divorce that he wanted Hope and she made him wait. Hope does not know about Steffy .She did not want Liam to think that she left him at the alter.If he had any since he would have known that she would not leave him. He is so stupid. Hope loved him enough to give up her beliefs and ruin her reputation.How does he repay her ,He is so Stupid maybe Steffy does deserve him . I am beginning to think That Liam does not deserve neither Girl . Good luck with your thread...IMO you are speaking good sense for both girls. And ITA... As much folderol as there has been about what a great conquest Liam would make, I am just not buying it... He is no stud, he is no steed, he is more like a gelding in a pawpaw patch... Daddy $ seems to drive Liam's libido, as well as Liam's spouting off about how Steffy and/or Hope are to blame for their mis-steps, and how he cannot somehow forgive them... Then Liam somehow finds his voice... Otherwise, like today, when he REALLY needed to say something to Hope, his mouth opened and nothing came out... This guy is still playing the odds....I don't think that he cares which girl he ends up with---just as long as he doesn't have to make the decision... RIGHT NOW!!! On the contrary! Liam opened his mouth today and said PLENTY! He told Hope he did not feel the same about her, he told Hope things were NOT the same, and he told Hope he couldn't go through with marrying her. Hope did not listen she was too busy pleading with him to marry her anyway and too busy gushing about herself. BTW, He said all of it after he found out she didn't write the note to him. I second that, Trinney73! Hope never has listened to what Liam says. She just charges ahead with her fairy tale, I don't believe he ever said he didn't want to marry her. He said that everything has changed since he found the note and that he didn't know what he was thinking. He said, that he thought she didn't love him anymore. (NOTE: it is always about Hope first, then Steffy comes in second when Hope is unavailable). There were plenty of opportunities for Liam to tell Hope he can't marry her, but he didn't! Liam is not a man enough to say what's on his mind and the same thing happens when Steffy talks to him and assures him that she is the woman for him. He shuts up and says nothing! All along it has been Hope first and then if she isn't available, Steffy comes next. That's the story we are all watching....nothing has changed. Exactly If he did not want to marry Hope then he would not. Hope was his 1st Choice. Steffy should have let him choose when she had the Chance instead she chose for him. If he had wanted her he would not have let her go no matter what kind of Commitment he had to Hope. Hope knew that Liam was with Steffy that Night of their last Night as Man and Wife and did she try to go and interfere no she let them have their time as she did the day he told Steffy that he chose Hope over her..But did Steffy let him go. No who would not listen then .He asked her for a divorce ,He had 6 months as she wanted to change his mind but did he NOOO. He should have told Hope No we want sleep together I love you and I dont want to hurt your reputation lets wait But did he No he went on and let her do it .Liam does not know what Love is he is using them both .He had plenty of time in those 6 months to choose Steffy but he did not. He was the One that Took Hope to Aspen she did not beg him to take her. She did not need her Father In Law to set up anything for her. Yes she has help from Her Mother .What daughter doesnt want her Moms help with her Wedding . I am sure if Steffy had had a real wedding that Taylor would have helped. I was rooting for Both girls at one time .One time I thought he should Just stay with Steffy until she started all of it all over again with Thomas and Hope and trying to keep Liam from Knowing that they was there in the same place that they was. She couldnt have a good time with Liam for trying to hurt Hope again. like I said he had every opportunity in the world to Choose Steffy but did not. He has always chosen Hope. The ironical part also is that logistically, Hope has to be the one to turn the volume down and then Liam reacts accordingly utilizing Steffy to unmute. Therefore, it becomes obvious that Hope is always the one to control the tempo and it is never Liam or Steffy who is the conductor. This is why I think Liam truly loves Hope b/c she has the power over him, but Steffy is being utilized as the fall back woman, as she becomes so available to his whims and fancies. Too bad, Steffy is not strong enough to realize she is made a fool of. Welcome Nauntie! |
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No she is not, Liam is the one holding the gun to his own head. |
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Quote fortaylor: No she is not, Liam is the one holding the gun to his own head. Liam does hold the gun with Hope's direction to pull the trigger, but Steffy holds nothing at this point....no gun and no trigger, just poor self-esteem! |
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Quote grandpadanucci: Quote fortaylor: No she is not, Liam is the one holding the gun to his own head. Liam does hold the gun with Hope's direction to pull the trigger, but Steffy holds nothing at this point....no gun and no trigger, just poor self-esteem! Here I did not bash or blame Hope for anything but Steffy gets bashed? WTH?
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Quote fortaylor: Quote grandpadanucci: Quote fortaylor: No she is not, Liam is the one holding the gun to his own head. Liam does hold the gun with Hope's direction to pull the trigger, but Steffy holds nothing at this point....no gun and no trigger, just poor self-esteem! Here I did not bash or blame Hope for anything but Steffy gets bashed? WTH? Liam hold his own gun...but if he blows it nothing will come out 
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Nauntieann |
Thank You ,I was just trying to make a point to everyone that said Hope would not shut up and Let Liam talk that she is not Holding a Gun To his head and making him Marry her. He can say No that he loves Steffy If he truly does.He had lots Of Chances to Choose Steffy and he did not take adavantage of any of them .Steffy did keep chasing him when he was engaged to Hope she would not let him talk when he kept telling her that he loved Hope and was gonna marry her.She even showed up at the Bachelor Party . They had lots of time together and he could have chose her without being on an immediate rebound Of Hope. He could have let it rest awhile instead of Giving into Bill and Steffy Immediatly after Hope gave back the ring .She did not have to be on the rebound again and give in if they did make love. I read somewhere where she got Pregnant in Aspen when Liam Tore up the papers .How true that is I dont know. If Thats the case they were still married and Liam should have come Home and Told Hope the truth instead of letting her Think things was good. Steffy should have told her what happened also. If she truly wanted her man she would have told her .Hope is not the one at fault here and I really cant say that Steffy is .Liam is and Steffy and Hope are his and Bills Victums. |
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Quote cityhunter: Anymore than Steffy held a gun to make him propose to her,marry her,or have sex with her...yet everyone blamed Steffy...Sorry,Liam makes his own decisions and Steffy deserves better than him. Beside sinced hwne ,yiu're entitled to the person yiu dumped Liam,he was on the market again so Steffy was entitled to fight for him.Same thing happened with Phoebe.She dumped Rick,chose Constantine,went on tour with him for a year and when she came back she decided she wanted him back.Sorry but this is not how life goes on.Hope slept with a married man,unlike Steffy.And a man who gives up so easily and has sex with someonee else so fast is definilty not a man in love.Sorry but sick and tired of people thinking that the logans are entitled to everything Wasnt Bill a Married Man ??? Only thing different is Bill wasnt hers to start with .The way that Hope was Liams. |
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